Official Monday Senate Debate – Alito – Thread 4

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x267811

Thread 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x268317

Thread 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x268868

[helderheid]

1. K & R!

[Sydnie]

2. Love that graphic too!

:rofl:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. I dug into my old file... just for you.

:D

[Sydnie]

13. thanks! I like it! n/t

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3. Reid - laying out the Corruption and horrible policies...

says if * gets up and tells us how great the "state of the union" is, he'll be LYING! emphasis mine.

[Tesla]

6. "Orwellian Doublespeak"

New catchphrase

[AntiFascist]

19. kewl!

:woohoo:

let the filibustering begin

[ralps]

7. LOL "We're in for the same old tired ideas" & he's bringing up the

Orwellian doublespeak of the Bush administration.

[jarnocan]

110. sh** Kit Bond started out like

he had a clue but then - what BU**SH**! What nerve to actually say how if you are poor-blah blah blah -this guy would be impartial. they really seem to have no morals. they will say anything. He was trying to look like he was on the 'little guys' side. - more Orwelliam double speak!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

5. Orwellian DoubleSpeak

said 3 times now! :rofl: ohhhh! "Bush DoubleSpeak"

[suffragette]

8. Ain't that the truth

[Tesla]

9. jinx.....haha

[Viva_La_Revolution]

12. ...

[BR_Parkway]

11. Stupid question, are they supposed to take this time speaking about

Alito? Or just whatever is on their mind?

[ralps]

14. They'll get to Alito soon

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. It's related....

Detailing all of the Shrubs mistakes and bad decisions... he'll tie Alito in at the end.

I'm just enjoying the hell out of this! Orwellian Doublespeak #4! :)

[suffragette]

10. "They create a financial windfall for the president's friends"

Give 'em hell, Harry!

[babylonsister]

15. Do you think Reid has a point connected to Alito?

I love hearing *-bashing, he's doing a fine job of that! :)

[insane_cratic_gal]

17. I was just wondering about that

They are connected but he's taking the long scenic route to get there.

[Lenore]

18. No seperation of powers

While the Republicans and Bush are in control, so sayeth Reid. You tell 'em Reid!

[ralps]

21. Now he's bringing up the Abramoff scandal & bush's ties to it

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20. final comments...

Tomorrow night, the president will undoubtedly praise the confirmation of Judge Samuel Alito.

Let me be clear: Democrats stand united against Judge Alito because he too protects special interests over America’s interest and has failed to demonstrate that he will be a check on presidential power.

Mr. President, the President faces a tremendous test tomorrow night.

It’s up to him to prove to the American people that he intends to denounce the culture of corruption and change direction in 2006.

Democrats are ready to work with President Bush in order move our country forward, because we believe that together, America can do better.

Tomorrow night, I hope President Bush will join us in putting progress ahead of politics, so we can have a state of the union as honest and strong as the American people.

[insane_cratic_gal]

23. I must have a delay!

yours came before the actual Cspan speech did!

[Sydnie]

26. she must have a transcript!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

30. Gotcha!

Rawstory had it. :)
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Reid_to_slam_Bush_in_preemptive_0130.html

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22. Lautenberg up now

[Sydnie]

24. Lautenberg up now nt

[ralps]

25. Sen. Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey up now.

[bettyellen]

27. sounds like a "No" on Alito... but will he filibuster?

[Sydnie]

28. I really hope so.

Experts contacting him. Listened with the faces of his grandchildren in mind.

That sounds VERY positive for us!

[suffragette]

31. That's the question, all right.

Please let him be on board.

[bettyellen]

32. he' sticking up for choice. THANK YOU SENATOR

:applause:

[suffragette]

35. Yes, Yes, YES!!!

[ralps]

29. "Alito almost always lined up against the little guy" I'm not sure I have

his quote exactly.

[Tesla]

33. "The right to choose is settled law"

"He inteds to overturn Roe v Wade"
"The realization of a nightmare"
"Abuse of Power"

He's killing 'em!!!

[ralps]

44. Now he's talking about the Unitary Executive, & now allowing one

branch of Government too munh power. "We don't want a King" YAY!!!!!

[ekelly]

34. Did I miss Kerry returning

to the floor?

I had to leave the house for a while.

If not, any word on when he will resume the ass-kicking?

[Sydnie]

38. nope, not yet n/t

[gkhouston]

41. he's not needed at the moment

Lautenberg appears to be doing an adequate job, LOL!

[berner59]

42. didn't miss him - Reid was up 1st...

Then Lautenberg...

[bettyellen]

46. no, it's lautenberg and they say menendez next......

no idea about kerry. hopefully he's up at 4:31. LOL.

[ekelly]

49. thanks to all for the updates n/t

[Sydnie]

36. families came here to escape kings and despots ....

He HAS to be on our side!

[Tesla]

39. "America dosen't want a King"

You go!!!!!

[DemonGoddess]

40. America doesn't want a

KING or an Imperial President, and neither does New Jersey!

EXCELLENT!!!

[gkhouston]

43. is that a hint that Menendez will also vote no...? n/t

[Sydnie]

48. He had better - he will have competition for the next trip to Washington

He sailed in this time, no way he would next time.

[bettyellen]

59. i always thought he would

from the little bit i know about him from hudson county politics.

[gkhouston]

47. wow, for a nominee to be dissed by the home state senator...

:wow:

[bettyellen]

72. his staffer dropped his jaw like that when i reminded them he's up

for reelection this year, and nothing less than a filibuster would do.
he's pretty well spoken, huh?

[gkhouston]

79. Very. Wish I had good senators. n/t

[bettyellen]

37. he said king george!! america does not want a king!!!

wooo hoo.
he must be on board.

[stillcool]

51. I just sent an email...

and it said..."this is no dress rehearsal for the coronation of the king. This is the real deal".

[hvn_nbr_2]

68. I've been pushing that point in my emails and faxes.

"Unitary executive" is just a codeword for "absolute monarch." We don't need no stinking kings, especially not another King George.

[Sydnie]

45. He has been reading his emails!

I am sure all these points were made in the emails he received. Good for him!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[berner59]

52. He's great...

He said it's not a black & white issue...it's a gray issue and it's not worth the risk... He says Alito is not for the "little guy"...this should ring loud and ring to every American!!!!

[ralps]

53. He will oppose Alito

[ClayZ]

50. YAY..... he votes NO!

:bounce:

[Coexist]

56. Menendez up...

darn it - I have to go pick up my kids.

[berner59]

60. Any clue on Menendez??

Would Corzine have voted no??? I think he's going no too...

[suffragette]

54. "the true measure of a democracy is its dispensation of justice."

Say it.

[WinkyDink]

55. Well, here's a newbie in the crucible.

Go, Sen. Menendez!

[StoryTeller]

62. He's a VERY good speaker! :) (nt)

[rox63]

57. Menendez up

I hope he's a no...

[ralps]

58. Sen. Robert Menendez of New Jersey up now

[Coexist]

61. Sounds like a NO to me!

But what about his cloture vote?

[ClayZ]

66. Me too... sounds like a NO... Hope Hope Hope!

[ralps]

64. "Competence alone is not enough to get a Supreme Appointment"

I'm paraphrasing.

[ekelly]

111. Nice slam against Brownie and

other failure appointments.

(paraphrasing)
"...Competence alone may be enough for a myriad of other positions...."

As though he were eluding to their INcompetence.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

65. "It's not where you come from so much, as

where you will take this country that counts. Paraphrased.

Oh yea, he's a no. betcha. :)

Slammed by both home Senators! Awwww. will Mrs. weep again?

[Sydnie]

73. and how many times an hour will we have to watch it replayed?

[berner59]

67. He and others are really making good points...

Saying he's certainly qualified and has integrity BUT that is not enough... That's the only reason the Repugs are giving so they are throwing it back in their face big time!!

Menendez is going no also...yeah!!!

[LeftNYC]

63. As a former New Jerseyan...i have to say that Menendez

is a good speaker...

[Helga Scow Stern]

71. Go Menendez! Now if his actions back his words!

[LeftNYC]

82. Obama/Menedez '08...hahahah! nt

[ClayZ]

69. "His testimony was not reassuring!"

[Viva_La_Revolution]

70. Whoo hoo! Newbie is out of the gate and Running!!!

:woohoo:

[Helga Scow Stern]

75. He makes me feel proud.

[ralps]

78. He's talking about Alito advocating *'s Signing Statements

[BReisen]

74. Menendez is good!

I've not heard him speak before - even though I'm a PA neighbor. He is laying out the arguments very well - simply, concisely. And including all the right stuff!

[WinkyDink]

83. PA. here, too!

Yes, Sen. Menendez is an excellent speaker!
I e-mailed him mentioning torture; maybe he read it!

[lala_rawraw]

76. can we call it urinary executive yet?

[ralps]

81. Yes I think we sould

[Sydnie]

85. Yes, I think we can

Pissin' on both sides of the aisle!

[ralps]

89. LOL Cool graphic

[Dinger]

95. I Always Think That

It fits, Little Lord Pissypants

[benny05]

77. Sounds like NJ'ites Can be proud

of their senators; I just hope they continue the debate and vote NO to cloture.

[bettyellen]

80. Menendez office says thery're taking a tally Re: filibuster right NOW....

[helderheid]

84. WOOT!!

:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:

[bettyellen]

86. they said the phones are ringing constantly.....

[berner59]

88. man oh man...

he is GOOOOOOD!!!!! What a speech...welcome to the Senate Mr. Menendez!!!

[bettyellen]

101. i am really proud of him right now.

i think he'll support a filibuster, and i'll have to hug him next time i see him.

[Sydnie]

87. what will morning in America look like?

Great quote from the junior Senator!

[gkhouston]

90. I'm hoping

it's not mourning in America. :scared:

[ralps]

99. If Alito was a Supreme Court Judge No person of color would get a hearing

[xiamiam]

91. please tell me a link where i can listen...young turks wont work

[Sydnie]

93. Try C-SPAN - It's C-SPAN 2 n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

96. Here:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

[berner59]

97. He's great...

But he's scaring the shit out of me... We are in deep trouble if Alito gets (which I know already) but he's hitting homerun on this...yikes!!

[ClayZ]

98. c-span 2

www.c-span.org

[Mind_your_head]

100. c-span.org - then choose c-span 2 (listen or watch) n/t

[hwmnbn]

102. here you go......

www.c-span.org

click on c-span2

[Viva_La_Revolution]

103. You can watch at CSPANs homepage

http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp

if you have Windows media or RealPlayer...

[xiamiam]

109. ahh..thanks to all of you..didnt have it listed on programming...

[ClayZ]

92. Menendez is a Great Speaker! GOOD FOR HIM!

:applause:

[ralps]

106. Menendez Cannot vote for Alito

[hwmnbn]

107. I'm impressed....

We need all the good speakers we can get.

He is getting better as his speech progresses. I'm now more than impressed, I'm almost inspired!

[BReisen]

94. Looks like the Senate servers are having trouble

I just tried to look up Menedez' email address through the main Senate site, and this is the message I got, twice:

Sorry, the http://www.senate.gov web page you have requested is experiencing technical difficulties. The Webmaster has been alerted.
You will be automatically redirected to the http://www.senate.gov Home page after 10 seconds.

If this problem persists, please contact the Office of the Secretary Webmaster at [e-mail].

[Sydnie]

104. I used this one the other day

[e-mail]

[Kire]

112. his email and website aren't up yet

he just got appointed, the only way to reach him is by phone, 202-224-4744, and presumably fax but I don't have that number

[Viva_La_Revolution]

105. Thread 5 is up!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x270261

Man, you guys could wear me out! LOL

[ClayZ]

108. Whooo Hooo Menendez!

:dem:

[slide to the left]

113. Cornyn, blah!

His website puts tracking cookies on your computer! Hmm, thats not legal.

I can't stand this guy. The DM News is a crappy paper, I read the Ft. Worth Star.

I hate that I am mis-represented by this guy.

I e-mail him all the time telling him what he needs to change.

He has ties to Jack, big ones!

[AtomicKitten]

114. he's a big fat liar

1) Alito does not DESERVE an up-or-down vote.
2) An up-or-down vote is not constitutionallly mandated.
3) There has NOT been nonstop discussion in the Senate - Frist prevented that.
4) The "special interest groups" are comprised of the American people, dumbass.

[uppityperson]

115. THREAD 5 HERE

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x270261

[The empressof all]

116. Locking

Alito Thread #5 link here:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=270261&mesg_id=270261