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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 03:59 PM
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After watching "We Were Warned" on CNN, seeing what the
Europeans are doing to achieve a little energy independance is refreshing and uplifting. They aren't spending as much on defense as we are, or maybe they are in a more peaceful sort of way.



http://www.citymayors.com/made4cities/hydrogen_bus.html
In seven of the participating cities, the hydrogen will be produced at the filling stations themselves. In Madrid and Stuttgart, two steam reformers are being installed. Once complete, they will produce hydrogen from natural gas. In five other cities, filling stations are being outfitted with electrolysis equipment. The equipment will primarily use ‘green’ electricity from sources of renewable energy in order to produce the necessary amounts of hydrogen by splitting water into its component elements.

Reykjavik in Iceland provides the perfect location for this system: Because of the island’s geology, the citizens of Iceland already produce nearly all of their electricity at hydroelectric and geothermal power plants. The hydrogen produced by electrolysis will allow them to end their dependence on imported oil to fuel their vehicles in the future.

Water power will also be the source of energy used to produce hydrogen through electrolysis in Stockholm. The electricity for ‘Hamburg hydrogen’ will be produced by wind power plants that take advantage of the strong winds blowing through coastal regions. Barcelona will use solar energy, and Amsterdam will turn to an incineration plant to produce the electricity required by the electrolysis.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:22 PM
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1. the Democrats should run on energy independence in '08.
we need an Apollo-type program with the goal of ending our dependence on petroleum, and developing alternative and environmentally friendly sources of energy.

in other words: Al Gore in 2008.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:46 PM
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2. that would be great ...
imagine what we could have done by now, for energy independence, education, universal healthcare, even tax cuts for the middle-class, if Iraq never happened. It's sapped so much of our nation's money and made the national debt even more horribly large that most of us cannot grasp the magnitude of it. The soldiers who died would be here with their families, some creating their own families, and living the so-called "American Dream."

Democrats need to talk about hope. But they also need to remind us about what we've lost thanks to the insane neocon policies in just the past 6 years!

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 06:06 PM
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3. Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda...
could be one simple campaign ad for Al Gore in 2008- overlaying images of iraq, katrina in n.o., although i'd leave the wtc out of any campaign material.
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