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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:55 AM
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John Edwards on ABC This Week - he just became my fav for 08
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 11:33 AM by LSK
He seems to be totally honest about everything.

He is dedicated to universal healthcare, unions, environment, fighting poverty. He said we have tough choices facing us. He says Americans will have to face giving up things and changing their ways.

He talks about reality and what America will have to do in to fix itself and NOT what Americans want to hear.

Try and catch this interview if you can.

Unless Gore runs, I think I found my choice for 08.

EDIT: Podcast and video clips can be found here: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:07 AM
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1. I'm sorry I missed it.
As long as JE speaks from his heart, and doesn't channel the DC "consultant class," he'll be golden.

NGU.


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:16 AM
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2. He has a bit of that Clinton Charm. Having Elizabeth next to him
makes him even more dynamic. She will be even more an asset than Hillary was for Bill.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:21 AM
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3. I agree, he has to stick to his message and avoid "handlers"
He should just let the chips fall where they will by being honest and saying what he believes in.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:26 AM
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4. Edwards is just what this country needs!
And all the hype of late about how Ford "healed" the country has the country feeling the need to have our country healed again. Clearly, Edwards is just the person to do that...and I love that he talks about doing it now...starting that process of pulling us together to help our country now. Edwards is just exactly what this country needs.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:43 AM
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8. He could ask us to forgive him for bringing
us the Iraq debacle. That would catch my attention.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:44 AM
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10. READ:
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 11:51 AM by LSK
Nov 13, 2005

Dear Friend,

I was wrong.

I wrote these words about my vote to authorize the Iraq war in a Washington Post op-ed piece and I want to share my views with you as well.

Almost three years ago, we went into Iraq to remove what we were told — and many of us believed and argued — was a threat to America. But in fact we now know that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction when our forces invaded Iraq in 2003. The intelligence was deeply flawed and, in some cases, manipulated to fit a political agenda.

It was a mistake to vote for this war in 2002. I take responsibility for that mistake. It has been hard to say these words because those who didn't make a mistake — the men and women of our armed forces and their families — have performed heroically and paid a very dear price. It is not right, just or fair that we made a mistake, but they pay for that mistake.

The world desperately needs moral leadership from America, and the foundation for moral leadership is telling the truth.

While we can't change the past, we need to accept responsibility because a key part of restoring America's moral leadership is acknowledging when we've made mistakes or been proven wrong — and to show that we have the creativity and guts to make it right.

The argument for going to war with Iraq was based on intelligence that we now know was inaccurate. The information the American people were hearing from the President — and that I was being told by our intelligence community — wasn't the whole story. Had I known this at the time, I never would have voted for this war.

George Bush won't accept responsibility for his mistakes. Along with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, he has made horrible mistakes at almost every step: twisting intelligence to fit their pre-conceived views about Iraq's threat; failed diplomacy; not going in with enough troops; not giving our forces the equipment they need; not having a plan for peace.

Because of these failures, Iraq is a mess and has become a far greater threat than it actually ever was. It is now a haven for terrorists, and our presence there is draining the goodwill that our country once enjoyed, diminishing our global standing. It has made fighting the global war against terrorist organizations more difficult, not less.

The urgent question isn't how we got here, but what we do now. We have to give our troops a way to end their mission honorably. That means leaving behind a success, not a failure.

What is success? I don't think it is Iraq as a Jeffersonian democracy. I think it is an Iraq that is relatively stable, largely self-sufficient, comparatively open and free, and in control of its own destiny.

A plan for success needs to focus on three interlocking objectives: reducing American presence; building Iraq's capacity; and getting other countries to meet their responsibilities to help.

First, we need to remove the image of the imperialist America from the landscape of Iraq. American contractors who have taken unfair advantage of the turmoil in Iraq need to leave Iraq. If that means Halliburton subsidiary, KBR, then KBR should go. Such departures, and the return of the work to Iraqi businesses, would be a real statement about our hopes for the new nation.

We also need to show Iraq and the world that we will not stay there forever. We've reached the point where the large number of our troops in Iraq hurts, not helps, our goals. Therefore, early next year, after the Iraqi elections and a new government has been created, we should begin the redeployment of a significant number of troops out of Iraq. This should be the beginning of a gradual process to reduce our presence and change the shape of our military's deployment in Iraq.

Most of these troops should come from National Guard or Reserve forces. That will still leave us with enough military capability, combined with better trained Iraqis, to fight terrorists and continue to help the Iraqis develop a stable country.

Second, this redeployment should work in concert with a more effective training program for Iraqi forces. We should implement a clear plan for training and hard deadlines for certain benchmarks to be met. To increase incentives, we should implement a schedule outlining that as we certify that Iraqi troops are trained and equipped, a proportional number of U.S. troops will withdraw.

Third, we must launch a serious diplomatic process that brings the world into this effort. We should bring Iraq's neighbors and our key European allies into a diplomatic process to get Iraq on its feet. It's not just in America's security interest for Iraq to succeed, but the world's — and the President needs to create a unified international front.

Too many mistakes have already been made to make this easy. Yet we must take these steps to succeed. The American people, the Iraqi people and — most importantly — our troops who have died or been injured there and those who are fighting there today deserve nothing less.

America's leaders — all of us — need to accept the responsibility we each carry for how we got to this place. Over 2,000 Americans have lost their lives in this war; and over 150,000 are fighting there today. They and their families deserve honesty from our country's leaders. And they also deserve a clear plan for a way out.

John

http://johnedwards.com/news/newsletter/oped20051113/index.html
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 02:48 PM
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16. Snap!
NGU.


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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:35 PM
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18. I am glad he is admitting a mistake. Where does it
say, "I am sorry. Please forgive me."?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 01:34 PM
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20. I remember when Newt kept saying...
..."If only President Clinton would apologize," in sotto voce. :eyes:

NGU.


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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:48 AM
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12. He was one of the first to apologize and accept responsibility
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:26 AM
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5. Did he say anything about Iran? (n/t)
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:29 AM
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6. Edwards seems great
Hillary lost my vote because of her stand on Iraq, and Edwards won my vote because he's the first Democrat in a generation to actually talk about poverty in America, after the senile Reagan appealed to the me me me mentality of the middle class and led the nation to write off the issue of poverty.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:34 AM
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7. he also created the McCain Doctrine phrase, which is the "surge in Iraq" plan
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 11:49 AM by LSK
Which he opposes.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:44 AM
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9. He is opposed to the Mccain troop surge plan, but coined the McCain phrase
Just to clarify- Edwards didn't create the doctrine, just the use of the McCain name tag in describing the surge plan that Edwards strongly opposes.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:49 AM
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13. yes, I tried to edit to clarify
Thanks for pointing that out
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:47 AM
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11. So far he remains my favorite as well
its time for a real change and at least Edwards knows what its like to have to work for a living and has been successful at jobs outside of politics. I'm ready for a populist like Edwards!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:50 AM
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14. I'm with you. I want Gore. If he won't, I'll take Edwards.
And I'll be fine with that.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:15 PM
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15. I love this picture of the two of them when there were in law school
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:09 PM
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17. Saw it too. Here's my review from another post
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Dem_4_Life Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:44 PM
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19. I am so excited about Edward's and...
I can't wait to see what he has got in store for the election and getting involved localy to get the votes in 2008. He has the best vision and I believe he can win over the people in the middle which is so important since he will already win all the blue states.

JOHN EDWARD's 08!!!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 04:12 PM
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21. But we DON'T have to "give up things"; all we need do is reduce
Edited on Mon Jan-01-07 04:14 PM by WinkyDink
the OSCENE "defense" budget.

Otherwise, I like all that Edwards is about.
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