Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

to all those who are fed-up with the democratic party...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:28 PM
Original message
to all those who are fed-up with the democratic party...
do we have any other choice?

is there any other party that has more than a snowball's chance in hell of stopping the republican's creeping fascism?

shouldn't our primary goal be to get as many dems elected as possible, and THEN try to repair our party?

...or do we just give up and move to canada?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:34 PM
Response to Original message
1. I'd have done the latter long ago if I could have afforded it.
I truly believe it's a downhill slide for everyone alive today until well after we're all gone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:35 PM
Response to Original message
2. No, but some of us are realizing that the only way to oust the DLC
may be to hand the party such a resounding defeat via a good third party showing that the DLC is finally discredited forever. I hope it won't come to that. I hope Dr. Dean is working hard to get rid of these conservative old bastards that have taken the party away from us and handed it to the corporations. I hope there are primary candidates worth voting for who have a chance of unseating pubbies, instead of the usual array of mealymouthed DLC types who promise business as usual, bend over.

I would really rather get my party back. If not, then I'll hand them a resounding defeat. The DLC has demonstrated it has absolutely no interest in stopping creaping fascism or creeping feudalism. The only choice between the DLC and the GOP is how fast the creep is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Yeah, yeah, yeah
and that's how Bush got elected. Gore was no different than Bush, so said Nader.

zalinda
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. So do you want the Dems to have a "resounding defeat" in 2006?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:37 PM
Response to Original message
3. First priority should be clean elections.
HR550 in the House to implement paper trails
for e-machines nationwide. Push for hand counted paper ballots
wherever possible. Otherwise much of the campaigning for good candidates could be for naught.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
5. Go for the Grass Roots
In my opinion the national party is broken and bankrupt of ideas. It has completely lost its roots. The solution is to grow new roots through local activism. In other words, use the same tactics the religious right did: local organization, local candidates and building a name for the party as the place to be if you want change for the better. It's not going to happen overnight, but the beltway bluebloods are never going to get it.

It's particularly frustrating for those of us in the deep red states. I have no representation at the Federal level, so going local is the only option.

So don't go to Canada. Get down in the muck and build some grass roots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
6. if Dems are just going to do the same things
as Republicans - and not do what we believe in anyway....what's the point in electing them over anyone else? I didn't like Nader's tactic when he was saying this - but I have to say, I'm pretty discouraged. so if I went with the Greens, at least I'd feel represented, truthfully.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:09 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. but what kind of representation can you realistically expect from...
Edited on Thu Feb-02-06 04:11 PM by DubyasWorld
the greens?

how many greens hold nat'l office?

more importantly, how many joe-and-jane-six-packs are going to vote green for congress?

and if joe-and-jane-six-pack don't vote green, how does that party ever gain real political power to make a difference in this country?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. And what kind of representation are we getting from half of Dem's
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. the good half of the dems, which is much more than you would
get if you vote green.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 08th 2024, 06:14 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC