Oh, how nice. The fundie group is finally accepting the obvious.

[Kerrytravelers]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16638277/

Scientists, Christians unite on climate fight
Evangelical leaders reach pact with experts on global warming issue


BOSTON - Some leading scientists and evangelical Christian leaders have agreed to put aside their fierce differences over the origin of life and work together to fight global warming.

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In February 2006, 86 evangelical leaders signed a statement to fight global warming, saying that human-induced climate change is real, that its consequences will hit the poor the hardest, and that Christian moral convictions demand an urgent response.

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Speakers at the Wednesday announcement will include megachurch pastor Joel Hunter, who refused to take the leadership of Christian Coalition of America because the organization wouldn’t let him expand its agenda to include the environment and poverty.

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How about them fundies, huh? I guess the dead polar bears and loss of ice in the Arctic regions finally clued them in, eh? :eyes:

Also, please note that the few fundies who have taken note have acknowledged who will be hit the hardest first- the poor. And the "christian coalition" refuses to allow poverty to even be on their agenda. What wonderful "christians."

[SoCalDem]

1. Maybe they are finally realizing that taking care of god's creation

might just be a good idea :evilgrin:

[Kerrytravelers]

3. Finally stuck them as a good idea, huh?

I can never understand why people who proclaim so loudly to be one with Jesus Christ could ignore the needs of other people and of the Earth.

How "Christian" of them. :eyes:

[frazzledmom]

2. So 86 evangelical leaders are about to lose their gigs

Don't they work like the Bush administration? Just fire the ones you don't agree with?

[tuvor]

4. No point arguing about the past if you lose the future.

[Island Blue]

5. Not all Evangelicals are Fundies.

One example that springs to mind: Jimmy Carter. I know of others personally who have some remarkably liberal views. (Of course, there are also many Evangelicals who are politically conservative.)

I'm neither btw, just passing along some information.

[Kerrytravelers]

7. I certainly don't think that all Evangelicals are fundies.

There is a huge difference. A huge huge difference.


But it is often the fundie element that refuses all things science- and the evangelicals that accept facts as they are.

[Toucano]

13. It was confusing in your OP

The article says "evangelicals" but your comment said "fundies".

It was not clear that you knew the distinction.

[nolabels]

6. They first must realize their is no such thing as fighting for or against the earth

These people that claim to understand this thing they have branded as "GOD" are almost clueless to whole eternity of creation that surrounds them. That is like saying one can do addition and subtraction without equations. The fundies live in the slow part of reality that many would like to pave over. My take on the situation is that some are slower than others but it takes all kinds for multitudes of reasons.

Secular on left - Religious on the right (My take on the omitted synopsis of "B" would translate to actual working applications and results)



http://catb.org/~esr/writings/utility-of-math/

[schmuls]

8. I'm confused...I thought fundies wanted earth's destruction

because it would mean Armageddon was approaching!?

[lizziegrace]

9. Fundies do

The mainstream evangelicals understand that they must preserve and protect God's creation.

[Kerrytravelers]

10. Thankfully, it appears that some of the more mainstream are pulling away from the fundies.

Hopefully.

[Kelly Rupert]

11. It's the libertarians and business Republicans that are the problem, not the fundies

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[Kerrytravelers]

14. Ever hear a fundie condemn those who understand the climate crisis?

They are certainly a large part of the problem. Yes, the libertarians and business rethugs are a part of the problem, but the fundies are certainly earning their share of the spotlight.

Finally, it appears that some who have lied in the bed with the fundies before are finally throwing the covers off and leaping out of bed. And, sensible evangelicals like Carter have been gone for quite some time.

The "Christian Coalition" (in quotes because I highly question the "Christian" part of their title) refused a leader because he wanted to include global warming and poverty in their agenda (this was mentioned in the linked article.)

The fundy crowd is dangerous. Dangerous.

[Toucano]

12. Evangelical does not equal fundamentalist.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/evangelicals/vs.html

"People often get confused between the terms evangelical and fundamentalist. They mean two different things. Evangelicals are a very broad group. It's probably a third or 40 percent of the population of the United States. Fundamentalists are a subset of that. They are very conservative politically. Have a literalist view of the Bible.

Evangelicals have a much wider range of political views. A lot of them are conservatives, but not all of them. About a third of evangelicals voted for Al Gore. So it's a pretty broad range."

[Kerrytravelers]

15. See post #7.

Many of these people have been in bed with the fundie crowd. They may consider themselves evangelicals, but they've spent quite a lot of time in fundy circles. It's nice to see some of them acting like evangelicals and accepting that if they believe that God created this Earth, then perhaps they should be taking care of it.

[Toucano]

16. See post #13.

I think you posted number seven while I was searching for the link. :)

Thank you for the clarification.

[Kerrytravelers]

17. Yeah, perhaps a clearer opening would have been better.

There are evangelicals, and there are fundies... and then there are the evangelicals who have been in bed with the fundies and are finally seeing that being a fundie isn't the same as being evangelical.

Shame this great awakening didn't happen before 2004.