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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:33 PM
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Egyptian Boat sinking
That boat with 1,500 souls apparently sank very fast. I can't help but wonder if if was not not an accident.

Seems very suspicious.

Mubarak is no friend of Al Queda and they were on the way back from Saudi.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:37 PM
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1. Reports are bad weather in the area.
In bad seas ships sometimes go down very quickly, and it does not require any conspiracy for this to happen!

Shipwrecks on the Great Lakes are a lifelong study of mine, and I could cite you many examples where ships simply vanished.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:46 PM
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5. So it might of dove deep and took water?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:55 PM
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6. Exactly.
Many Ferries (I don't know this one) have large doors for rapidly loading vehicles and freight. These can fail in heavy seas and especially if they are not dogged properly.

Also the frame of a ship "works" in heavy seas. Ships have actually broken in half! One was the Carl D. Bradley in, I recall, 1965. It simply broke in half amidships, and there was only one survivor.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:37 PM
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2. I was probably over loaded.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:38 PM
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3. local news said the israeli's offered help in the search...guess what?
it was turned down. Nothing changes in that part of the world. Human life just doesn't have the same meaning as it does here.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:57 PM
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7. Nonsense.
Human life matters just as much to them as to us. They may simply not need extra assets in that area at this time.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:25 PM
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12. sorry to disagree....
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 04:28 PM by PCIntern
As long as Westerners think that Middle Eastern folk think like we do, we as a civilization will never understand what is going on over there. That's why there were no rose petals in Iraq.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:39 PM
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4. it was a car jerry
which has doors in the bow and stern that open to let cars on and off. If they start leaking it is all over.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:03 PM
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8. Either way
Don't be suprised if Pat "The Assassinator" Robertson rears his ugly, satanic head in the next few days and proclaims this to be "God's work" :puke:
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:06 PM
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9. i believe the official line is that it was an accident...>
I read the AP story, and it sounded like an accident, even without any official statement that it was.

The ship was built in 1972--it was way too old to be on the water, and it was used to carry poor people.

The way I see it, it's just another example of how the world treats its poor, not terrorism.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:31 PM
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10. A 35 year old ship can be quite safe if maintained.
I have no idea if this one was.

Remember, the Edmund Fitzgerald was a quite new boat, and was less than 9 months past a major rebuilding.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:46 PM
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11. As far as I know, the last time the ship was updated was in 1990--16 years
ago, so it sounds like it may not have been up to par.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:29 PM
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13. It was an accident -several experts were on BBC
Bad weather and shifting vehicles on the ferry made it tilt to one side and sink. It's the second accident from that company. By the way there have been similar accidents in the English Channel - all in bad weather.

Over 300 people have been rescued from the water.
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