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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:05 PM
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What advice would you give the Democratic Party ?
Would you tell them to just play it safe until after the election and the people will kick out the Republicans faster than you can say George Stephanopoulus...?

Or would you tell them to go on the attack? Don't hold back? Tell the truth about George Bush not reading the memos and being on vacation more than he was in Washington when 9/11 happened?

Play hardball? Fear is a weapon that can be used by Democrats as well as Republicans. What could you say that would scare the hell out of the voters, a la Bush and Cheney?

What would be your advice to the Democratic Party?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:07 PM
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1. Stand and deliver.
NOW!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:07 PM
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2. Take off the gloves...
as has been my advice for the last few years especially. Act as though you're in a fight for a change.

Tell the truth.

Never apologize.

Fight fire with fire.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:09 PM
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:09 PM
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3. Like Reverend Rowley...
speak truth to power. Speak the truth.
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mim Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:16 PM
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7. Amen
Get out and fight. Be bold on behalf of the people. Call the GOP's bluff. Forget that centrist nonsense. Don't try to be Republicans lite.

Remember the Democrat who ran in an Ohio district drawn to be safe for the Republicans? He called Bush a sonofabich and almost won!
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:11 PM
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4. Never Surrender.
Never back down.
Never apologize for voicing your opinion.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:12 PM
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5. act like we believe in something.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:12 PM
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6. Stop being afraid to speak the truth.
The truth is on our side so stand up and face it. Fear? The dems always have said that the Republicans would cut Social Security and their response was always that we were just using scare tactics. Well, now we know, they got in, they took over all branches of government and what did they and still are trying to do? Tell the voters that they lie, they use them and give them nothing.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:18 PM
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8. Never let Tim Kaine deliver another response to the SOTU
"We can do better?" Yes, we can do better - than that slogan.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:20 PM
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10. Sounded like he was selling funeral plans to the recently bereaved
:eyes:
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:23 PM
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42. Agreed, unless the replacement for Kaine is that
former Washington governor who screwed it up for us a little while ago.

(Brainfarting, can't remember the name or year, but it was recent)
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:20 PM
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9. 1. Speak the truth all the time....
2. Tear down the culture of corruption wherever it may reside.

3. Offer a plan to rebuild the government with integrity...nationalizing the election...."Give the Dems power, and this is what it means for you," and put it in terms people understand.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:23 PM
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11. To walk out when warranted!
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:23 PM
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12. Emulate Wellstone, Dean, Kucinich, Conyers, Kennedy....
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 10:24 PM by Armstead
...Feingold, Bernie Sanders, Boxer, Schakowsky and all of the other straightforward
fighting liberal and progressive Democrats.

(Bernie Sanders is an honarary Democrat)
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:46 PM
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24. After listening to this
I would move Feingold to the subject line

I've been pretty impressed with him but after hearing this I'm WAY more than impressed on the floor of the Senate no less

http://www.canofun.com/cof/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16351

The Dems have to remember why they became Dems - people over profit - stop listening to these stupid political advisers who tell them not to rock the boat - to act like repunk lite. They need to stand up and call the freak in chief a liar, a law breaker, helping his VERY rich friends at the expense of everyone else. running this country into the ground with the debt. The Bush administration and the repunk Congressional corruption an unquestioning support of the administration has to be the issue in the 2006 congressional races.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:24 PM
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13. Kill All Fascists! Er, wait, what was the question again?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:25 PM
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14. Get back to the raw, emotional, populist positions that we used to
stand for.
Also, you were not elected to build your career at the expense of your constituents. Accept that this is a war of ideas and there will be casualties and you should be prepared to become one. Stand up and shout the truth, at every opportunity, every time. It won't change the result, but it will make a difference. You will be mocked and ridiculed every time you do it, but it will be seen. You will be threatened and punished, and then it will begin to resonate...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:29 PM
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18. But we have from 25% - 50% of Democrats that wouldn't go along....
They are moderates and centrists. They do not believe this type of strategy would work. What would you do to get them on board? Or should we just ignore them?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:14 PM
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29. To repeat the same action over and over, expecting to achieve different
results, is insane. Yes? And what if it does resonate with the citizens? What if it becomes, or is made clear, that this is much more important than "Parties"? I guess I still have a tiny hope that there are enough real American's left to make the difference.
We need a new strategy, that much is obvious, isn't it? Why not try to change the focus to the overwhelming, the truly silent, majority that never votes at all? There's more of them than re:puke: and Dems combined. :shrug:
What have we got to lose? Those Democratic representatives that remain are ineffective at best, and enough of them have sold out each time to ensure the re:puke: agenda has been fully implemented. If they wouldn't even take a symbolic stand on Scalito, a disaster that will echo for maybe forty years (and who knows how long the results of those decisions will last) it is clear they will never stand up. Yes, I know there are good people there, but not enough, and perhaps they can be more effective outside with the rest of us.
The election is less than nine months away, what does the really average schmuck know about that he doesn't like? I don't know, maybe he's working too many hours, she's not getting vacations anymore because her health insurance has gone up too much and there's only a microscopic raise this year? Does anyone know? Of course not, because they don't talk to people anymore. They survey people, they spy on people, they interrupt people at home during dinner to ask them about something they care nothing about. We're doing it all wrong, and it's time to try something else.
It may still be too early, things aren't bad enough for enough sheeple, but again, what have we got to lose?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:31 AM
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30. Forgot to talk about Dred Scott regarding the long-term
consequences of Scalito. :kick:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:06 PM
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55. 50% of democrats are okay w/ iraq? the NSA spying? the lobbying scandals?
you mean % wise, MORE Dems are okay with the job repugs have been doing than are all citizens in the US?
c'mon now. get over your conservative self. there ain't that many of you.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:35 AM
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71. Use the stratagy that Schweitzer used in Montana
LEADERSHIP (real leadership, not the phony dlc stuff).

In a very red state, Schweitzer was able to win the governor's office by explaining why the Democratic principles were better for the people of the state. That included him standing firm on choice, anti war on Iraq, and anti-gay bashing (just to name some of the hot-button items that some dems? want to concede).

We should not ignore Dems who feel (because they have been bashed over the head with misinforformation by the media) that they are moderate, we should embrace them with information & intelligence. So some Dems do not understand how anti-choice & anti-gay legislation is meant to keep people as less than whole citizens. Okay, try to inform them. But if that still does not get through to them, do they want to vote against their own best interst when it comes to health care, social security, and other ecconomic policies because of their "fear" of choice or gay rights? IOWs, am I willing to throw away MY social security because another woman makes a personal decision with her doctor? Am I willing to go on w/o healthcare because two women who have been together for twenty years wish to marry?

One of the many negative affects of the dlc is to confuse the people/voters as to what REAL leadership is.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:27 PM
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15. and then they say, "See, we told you they were the angry Party.."
And they pound that day in and day out on the right-wing media. Then what do you say?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:47 PM
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25. You say "Damn right we're angry. You should be too..."
Or to use the subtle approach:

"Aren't you angry? You think things are going well at the moment?"
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:48 PM
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26. Bingo !
That is the perfect response.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:18 PM
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40. the nation is pissed off as it hasn't been since Nam/ Watergate....
so what's your point? we should ignore that?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:23 PM
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58. ......let's put the Iran/Contra scandal with Reagan at the control
in your repertoire also, bettyellen
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:28 PM
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16. quit acting like repukes
grow some balls

quit screwing your base
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:29 PM
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17. I would explain the following...
First, I would ask them "Do they think that there is going to be a reckoning coming for the Republican Party? For all their lies, their corruption, their warmongering, their rape of Constitutional rights, their utter incompetence, and their total disregard for everything decent and proper?

I will remind them that the postponing of that reckoning itself puts the nation at risk. The Republicans have already gone much further than many of us ever thought was possible under our Constitution. Normal checks and balances are in jeopardy. Our country's future depends on stopping and reversing the erosion of rights and the restoration of checks and balances. How much further will they allow it to go? How much is too far? How much do all our citizens have to lose before they stand firm and say, "Not one step further."

The risks in letting things go further are real. One, things could go so far that the inevitable correction manifests itself in a way that is also destructive. Greece in the 1960's comes to mind. Second, ChimpCo's foreign adventures could take the world to a situation that only an insane person would want.

I am afraid, very afraid. But my fear is not of terror, or of foreign attacks. It is that our own representatives are not taking the necessary action to defend my country, my Constitution, my freedoms. It's that they will let things go so far that the correction will be horrible.

Please, no more. Stop it now before it's too late.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:31 PM
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19. A little organized togetherness
would be nice
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smurfygirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:32 PM
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20. I would tell them to get out in the media
and start being heard.
Half the time I forget we have a party.
They need to take the issue to the front lines and push it and keep pushing it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:38 AM
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31. I'd go even farther, pick the issue, say the misanthropic handling
of New Orleans and, just like the re:puke:s everybody says the same thing, regardless of the question, on every show, in every interview, every time. If they shout you down, yell louder. If they try to change or re-frame the topic, ignore them and say it again. In every interview, every time, give them nothing to talk about except how you will only talk about the issue we want out there.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:41 PM
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21. Attack, attack, attack!!!!!!
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:45 PM
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22. Take the fucking initiative.
Stand together and at least present the appearance of a united front. Call the Repugs out consistently, and call out the media for coddling them. They need to actually distinguish themselves from the Repugs, and show that they stand for something.

Playing it safe has been a losing strategy and will continue to be. That certainly isn't how the Repugs came back from being in the minority.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:45 PM
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23. Shape up and stand up
and get some backbone. Sometimes compromise is the wrong answer.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:50 PM
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27. Id tell them to go back to their Populism roots.
We need to be the party of the ordinary working man again.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:38 AM
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34. Yea! see #14. n/t
:kick:
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:17 PM
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57. damn right
people may disagree on gay rights and abortion but no one would argue that they don't want a good job, affordable energy or health care!
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 10:51 PM
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28. Grow some chingada cojones (sorry, ladies...)
I don't know any other way to say it, and as far as I know there's no good feminine equivalent to "act like you've got a pair!" But the timid, cowering Democrats need to stand up and fight every step of the way, even when the cause is hopeless. This "go along to get along" s**t just doesn't cut it anymore.
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:41 AM
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32. Go on the offensive
I would keep pounding it into everyone's heads all the problems this administration has caused.

I know some others disagree, but I WOULD run on impeachment. Give power back to us in the Congress, and we delve deeper into what this administration has done, and if it's as bad as it looks, we will look to impeach Bush.

They might not take it as far as I would, but they most definitely SHOULD be on the attack. This crappy administration has given us so much ammo to use, and too many people are afraid to use it because they will come as "unpatriotic" or something. That's bs, they have to go on the attack and hold this administration accountable for what they've done.
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:48 AM
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33. Pretend that we're Repugs and that Repug strategists are innocent Iraqis.
Crush, stomp.

When you have a positional advantage in any situation - politics, on a chessboard, or wherever - it doesn't pay to relax.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:12 PM
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35. This is why I believe many of the Dems are collaborating.
They are not so stupid that they don't know this, it is basic. So why do they steadfastly refuse to do what must be done?
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:15 PM
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37. A yellow streak, a fear of the backlash.
I admit that I'd be absolutely terrified to be on the business end of a Repug firestorm, but I have no constituents and represent nobody. If you want to be a lawmaker, you have to be able to take the heat the kitchen on Capitol Hill generates, and gutlessness makes me sick. If these assholes aren't going to stand up and fight the good fight, why do they pretend to represent us?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:18 PM
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39. Zactly...
Please see sub-thread #14.
BTW I'm not going to let this post die anytime soon.
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Ron Mexico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:21 PM
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41. Good.
BTW, I fucking LOVED sub-thread #14.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:14 PM
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36. GO ON THE ATTACK NOW.
YESTERDAY. NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 01:17 PM
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38. Grow a spine!!!
Dont sit back and let the RW hate radio assholes like Limbaugh and Hannity cut you to shreds! Refute their bile and garbage talking points and do it NOW!!! Dont listen to the swift-boaters! Tell them to shut the fuck up!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:36 PM
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43. Kickworthy n/t
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:50 PM
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44. Once more with feeling.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:54 PM
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45. This


Props to billmon
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:44 PM
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46. LOL! Good one.
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:51 PM
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:55 PM
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48. BE like Congressman Conyers, 24/7
Peace.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:24 PM
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50. Stand up for equal rights, protect workers' rights...
Basically, remember that we all do better when we all do better, and civil rights are NOT up for majority vote.

And ditch corporatism, it's just locking you into supporting things that are anathema to the above.

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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:41 PM
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51. Stand up and speak out for what's right, goddamnit!!!
There are still some players at the head of the class who are doing okay: Kerry, Boxer, Kennedy, etc., but they're awfully lonely out there.

As for the rest of the Democrats (and yes,that includes you, Sen. Obama): Stop playing to the "middle," since everything's moved to the right; straddle the fence any longer, and you'll get splinters! :grr: C'mon -- where's the Gene McCarthy-Bobby Kennedy-George McGovern fighting spirit?

One look at today's headlines -- U.S. Trade Deficit Hits All Time High... Brown Said The White House Was Alerted Quickly on Katrina Flooding... Cheney Involved In Libby Case... L.A. Mayor Calls Timing Bush's Statement Re "West Coast Plot" Questionable"... on and on they read...Wiretapping Without Warrants...Medicare Cuts...Education Cuts...Frist Seceretly Inserts Items into Bill That Would Mean Windfall For Big Pharma...Anything About Iraq...Iran...

Anyone with half a brain cell knows that this country is in serious, serious danger -- read your ancient Roman history, and recall what happened to that republic when the senators' power was transferred to **one man** -- it was the beginning of the end of Rome.

Stop equivocating and fight for what's right, damn it! :grr: :bounce: :grr:



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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:47 PM
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52. Take some lessons from FD-friggin'-R
When he declared that "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself," he was nice and loud about it - not meek and timid.
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:53 PM
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53. get spine or get gone n/t
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:04 PM
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54. 1. Populism is the "packaging" that can win.
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 06:04 PM by PBass
2. Never apologize for having progressive values. NEVER.

3. Realize that you have to fight for those values in today's environment, so be prepared to fight.

4. Win in November because of the things you are SAYING and DOING right NOW. September and October are way too late.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:11 PM
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56. 2 main points
Concentrate on kitchen table issues - jobs, health care, gas prices/energy, how corruption affects policy.

Don't let the republicans frame the debate. We can't let their premise stand. If you let the debate start at "We invaded Iraq to protect our freedom" there's no way you can win that debate. Call them on their BS and spin.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:54 PM
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59. sorry for killing your thread, kentuck
:dunce: I'll go sit in the corner and think about what I've done.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:39 PM
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60. Rise I say, Rise!
:kick:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 10:40 PM
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61. Lead, follow, or get out of (OUR) way. eom
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:30 AM
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77. What MyPetRock said.
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DemGirl7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:22 PM
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62. Grow a spine and fight for the real democrats in the base
go after every conservative who insults you, get in their face and tell them off. Stand up for the real values in America, start holding the conservatives accountable for their various crimes, kick out the assholes within the party that act Republican-lite because they serve no real purpose and only make us weak.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:27 PM
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63. My Advice:
Please go here and click on the 1st link:
http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/index.html

June 2005
The Democrats' Moment to Engage
Analysis
Survey
Graphs

Click on the "Analysis" link. It will be in Adobe format which is why I can't Copy & Paste here: Please note that this analysis was co-authored by James Carville, a Conservative Democrat and Campaign strategist for Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996. Many in the Clinton administration give Mr. Carville much of the credit for the Clinton successes. He is generally considered a brilliant campaign manager and and unrivaled expert.

Here are some excerpts:

"Over 3 surveys in three months, Democracy Corps national survey show (that)...By a 20 point margin (56 to 36 percent), voters think the country is seriously off on the wrong track.

<snip>

But for all that, Democrats are at risk of making only modest gains in 2006. The Democrats gains in in the congressional battle have come more from Republican slippage than Democratic gains and, alarmingly, the president's deep troubles have produced no rise in positive sentiments about the Democrats.

<snip>

The Democrats can achieve major gains, however, if the party moves
decisively to a new stage of engagement. They must poise sharp choices-
ones that define the Democrats, not just the Republicans and ones that, in every battle, make the the instrument for reforming and changing Washington"

http://www.democracycorps.com/reports/index.html
2005-2006
The Democrats' Moment to Engage
Analysis (link here)





The "We're just like Republicans only nicer" campaigns of the Centrists Democrats have proved to be a disaster. Whether you agree or not, the average citizen sees the Democratic Party as an imitation Republican Party.This is the result of two disastrous campaigns where the Democratic Party ignored traditional issues , and chased after mushy republican voters with campaigns of "Centrism". These polls shout that voters want a sharp distinction, NOT Republican lite.

If the Democrats want to turn the bush*/Republican drop in popularity into positive gains for Democrats, the Democrats must offer choices on issues that are "sharply different" from the Republicans.


The Democrats MUST offer clear alternatives on issues:

*Instead of Free Trade and Outsourcing, the Democrats MUST offer Fair Trade and (at least some) protections for American Jobs (not corpoWelfare tax credits, LEGAL protections)

*Instead of Staying the Course, the Democrats must offer options for withdrawal

*Instead of Big Business, the Democrats must offer REAL protection and support for the Working Class and Poor

*Instead of Patriot Acts, the Democrats MUST offer protections for Individual Rights and Freedom from Big Brother and BIG intrusive Government.

*Instead of Fighting Terrorism by expanding the Military Wars overseas, the Democrats MUST offer improved security within our borders, and International Cooperation of Intelligence Agencies to track and capture International Criminals

*Universal Healthcare...the Americans WANT it. The Democrats MUST offer it. (To hell with contributions from Big Medicine and Big Pharmaceuticals)

*Instead of a Bigger is Better Corporate Policy, the Democrats MUST offer restraints, consumer protections, and Fair Competition legislation that makes it possible for Mom&Pop Businesses and Family Farms to compete with Wal-Marts and Corporate Factory Farms.




"Let's start with economic policy. The DLC and the press claim Democrats who attack President Bush and the Republicans for siding with the superwealthy are waging "class warfare," which they claim will hurt Democrats at the ballot box. Yet almost every major poll shows Americans already essentially believe Republicans are waging a class war on behalf of the rich. They are simply waiting for a national party to give voice to the issue. In March 2004, for example, a Washington Post poll found a whopping 67 percent of Americans believe the Bush Administration favors large corporations over the middle class.

The "centrists" tell Democrats not to hammer corporations for their misbehavior and not to push for a serious crackdown on corporate excess, for fear the party will be hurt by an "anti-business" image. Yet such a posture, pioneered by New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, is mainstream: A 2002 Washington Post poll taken during the height of the corporate accounting scandals found that 88 percent of Americans distrust corporate executives, 90 percent want new corporate regulations/tougher enforcement of existing laws and more than half think the Bush Administration is "not tough enough" in fighting corporate crime.

<snip>

On energy policy, those who want government to mandate higher fuel efficiency in cars are labeled "lefties," even though a 2004 Consumers Union poll found that 81 percent of Americans support the policy. Corporate apologists claim this "extremist" policy would hurt Democrats in places like Michigan, where the automobile manufacturers employ thousands. But the Sierra Club's 2004 polling finds more than three-quarters of Michigan voters support it including 84 percent of the state's autoworkers.

<snip>

Even in the face of massive job loss and outsourcing, the media are still labeling corporate Democrats' support for free trade as "centrist." And the DLC, which led the fight for NAFTA and the China trade deal, attacks those who want to renegotiate those pacts as just a marginal group of "protectionists." Yet a January 2004 PIPA/University of Maryland poll found that "a majority is critical of US government trade policy." A 1999 poll done on the five-year anniversary of the North American trade deal was even more telling: Only 24 percent of Americans said they wanted to "continue the NAFTA agreement." The public outrage at trade deals has been so severe, pollster Steve Kull noted, that support dropped even among upper-income Americans "who've most avidly supported trade and globalization who've taken the lead in pushing the free-trade agenda forward."



You REALLY MUSTread the rest of this!
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/20774



In recent polls by the Pew Research Group, the Opinion Research Corporation, the Wall Street Journal, and CBS News, the American majority has made clear how it feels. Look at how the majority feels about some of the issues that you'd think would be gospel to a real Democratic party:
1. 65 percent say the government should guarantee health insurance for everyone -- even if it means raising taxes.

2. 86 percent favor raising the minimum wage (including 79 percent of selfdescribed "social conservatives").

3. 60 percent favor repealing either all of Bush's tax cuts or at least those cuts that went to the rich.

4. 66 percent would reduce the deficit not by cutting domestic spending but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

5. 77 percent believe the country should do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment.

6. 87 percent think big oil corporations are gouging consumers, and 80 percent (including 76 percent of Republicans) would support a windfall profits tax on the oil giants if the revenues went for more research on alternative fuels.

7. 69 percent agree that corporate offshoring of jobs is bad for the U.S. economy (78 percent of "disaffected" voters think this), and only 22% believe offshoring is good because "it keeps costs down."

8. 69 percent believe America is on the wrong track, with only 26 percent saying it's headed in the right direction…


summary:
The Republican Party is seen by most Americans as the Big Business Party. Polling data analysis combined with performance in 2000, 2002, and 2004 clearly indicate that if the Democratic Party is to be able to capitalize on the low ratings of bush*Republicans, the Party MUST clearly and publicly show itself to be the Party of the Working American.

A UNIFIED PRO WORKER/PRO-LABOR Platform similar to Gingrich's Contract with America MUST be produced and SUPPORTED by the Democrats AS A PARTY!!


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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:52 AM
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66. Wow, this is freakin brilliant! Thanks.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:34 PM
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64. Well, I'd have to say...
loose Lieberman and Reid!
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 11:43 PM
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65. GET MAD. Be OUTRAGED. Show the public how they are NOT SAFER.
that's my opinion.

Then don't forget the fiscal disaster.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:53 AM
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67. Good morning Democratic strategists. Highly recommend post #63
:kick:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:58 AM
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68. Become more than the "not as bad" party.
Or, the "not as bad" wing of the nationalist-capitalist party.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:11 AM
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69. Hire private investigators for the Bush criminals!
Justice should be a swift as it was for Martha Stewart! Afterall, the whole stinky mess with Clinton started as a civil suit from Paula Jones.

AND, I'd donate to that fund :patriot:
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Ani Yun Wiya Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:18 AM
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70. Grow some spine.
And deliver up the *crew in orange jumpsuits and shackles.
And make damn sure to turn Cheney upside down and shake out his pockets.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:51 AM
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72. I would take the issue of fear, drag it out into the village
square and throttle it once and for all.

In Al GOre's speech on 1/16 he brought up this
issue and asked if we are in more danger than
we were when we had nuclear missiles pointed at
us during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He asked if
we are in more danger now than when the Japanese
bombed Pearl Harbor.

Think about the response that Bush has required from
everyone to be a good, patriotic citizen: blind acceptance
of his position as Commander in Chief. Instead of using the
tragic events of 9/11 to call forth courage and determination
from the citizenry, he has used it to call forth cowardice
and fear. True leaders do not call forth people's worst
instincts in times of stress. A true leader calls forth
the population's highest attributes.

Bush possesses none of these inspiring traits himself so he
has set himself up as a caricature of a western sheriff
squared off against the so called evil rampaging his turf.
He is nothing more than a mindless idiot propped up the
corporate structure that bought our country lock, stock
and barrel. I say it is way past time to rip off his tin
star and send him packing back to his make believe ranch
where he can fight the brush and the groundhogs, certainly
adversaries he can handle.

They have used the issue of fear and protection to weaken
our entire nation. What has happened to us that we have
allowed them to label us as cowards and accepted that as our
fate? I will not allow them to take my country our my courage.



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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:01 AM
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73. Stand behind their candidates.
Play hardball with "Democrats" who trash other Democrats, particularly high-profile Dems like Kerry, Dean, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, Obama, and so on.

In accordance with that policy, fire Donna Brazile and her ilk, and blacklist them from Democratic campaigns.

Also give some back-room counseling to Rahm Emmanuel. Sending out a survey asking who are the leaders of the party, that leaves our Kerry but lists Gore and Carville? WTF was he thinking? Wake up and realize that many average Americans think YOUR LAST PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE IS A LEADER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY - whether certain factions want to acknowledge it or not.

(okay, guess I'm feeling a little too cranky this morning...)

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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:02 AM
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74. Get ready to rummmmmble!!!!! nt
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:17 AM
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75. GET ANGRY!
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:21 AM
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76. Friggin' stand up for what we believe!!!
Don't worry about how Faux News is gonna spin it ... just go to bat for the American people (and citizens around the WORLD) who are being horribly mistreated, in every conceivable way, by the Bush Admin!
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:35 AM
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78. Kick
Let's keep working on this. I like it. It is making me feel good.

Also, on the issue of security, I would remind people that there is no
sense of national security if we are basically owned by foreign countries
with better economies but with totally different concepts of government.
The debt is staggering and getting worse by the minute.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:28 PM
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79. I'll add sign Kyoto, withdraw from GATT, NAFTA, WTO and Worldbank
and kill CAFTA. :kick:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:41 PM
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80. kickin'
:kick:
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