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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:44 AM
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Email Chris Matthews regarding the crawl for his show
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 12:53 AM by orleans
he was putting up "abramoff donations" and listing durbin, clinton & other dems along with the republican criminals who got money directly from abramoff. the crawl didn't clarify that the dems did not get money directly from jack--it implied they did get money directly from him. he was putting the dems in the dirty bed with the repukes!

send tweety a little email and let him know what you think of him misleading his viewers.
hardball@msnbc.com

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/

here is my email to tweety:

shame on you for putting the democrats on your crawl tonight, listing them aliong with the republicans who got donations directly from jack abramoff.

abramoff never donated to democrats. they were "associates" of his, or indian tribes that donated to the democrats--not abramoff as your crawl stated!

shame on you for misleading your viewers.

why don't you look abramoff up on opensecrets.org and take a read through all the republicans he gave money to. you won't find one democrat on the list!

and why don't you come clean to your audience about that capitol athletic foundation that you helped jack raise money for in march of 2003--the organization where less than one percent went to sports related programs for youths.

let your viewers know what you were up to with abramoff.
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:50 AM
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1. As someone here put it... Zero ILLEGAL donations to Dems.
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:56 PM
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21. "As someone here put it... Zero ILLEGAL donations to Dems."
I saw that cannot find it anymore. Does someone have the link?
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:52 AM
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2. I don't have enough facts to express an opinion either way--I'll
wait for the facts.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:54 AM
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4. his show repeats at 2 central on msnbc
go to opensecrets.org and you won't find one democrat on the list of who he donated to

mike malloy is talking about it now
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:01 AM
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8. Thanks for the info--I do need more education on this--it all
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 01:10 AM by GrumpyGreg
happened during the holidays and my brain froze for a while.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 02:12 PM
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22. I looked on opensecrets
and most democrats and republican's contributions look about the same. All Democrats that I saw only had contributions form indian tribes. Most republicans had all contributions from indian tribes except for one under $2000 contribution directly from Abramoff. That's not illegal in itself. A few repubs are swimming in this, most notably Delay. It's hard to explain to people why dems and (most)repubs are so different on this.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:56 AM
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6. Far as I understand it; Abramoff contributed HIS money to repukes only -
But some of the tribes he represented did contribute to dems. So, Abramoff persoanl giving = repukes only. His clients contributed to both dems & pukes, but I think favored pukes by 66%. Not positive about the percentages, but am positive Abramoffs personal giving was exclusively to repukes.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:53 AM
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3. here is another email address for msnbc


GeneralComments@feedback.msnbc.com
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:55 AM
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5. thanks. i sent them a copy of my email just for good measure. n/t
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:58 AM
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7. Um... wait a sec
I thought he said this was $$$ returned or going to charity. Still it sucks but it's different then what your post implies.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:03 AM
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9. The more I think about it
I believe he said "Money returned so far"
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:07 AM
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10. Implying it was money received from Abramoff
Matthews is a sleaze and tied to the Republicans. He carries their water.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:19 AM
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12. it said abramoff donation, then listed someone's name,
the dollar amount and who they were returning it to

dick durbin did not receive a donation from abramoff. plain & simple. the hardball posts on the bottom of the screen did not clarify that donations to democrats that were being returned were not from jack but from people jack knew.

it was extremely deceptive and misleading for viewers.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:15 AM
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11. email sent n/t
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:01 AM
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13. what is horrifying
the morning shows are continuing to repeat the lie, this morning they said Harry Reid refuses to return the money.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:12 AM
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14. Great email, especially asking about his own 'charity work' nt
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:24 AM
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15. Done.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 10:25 AM
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16. Tweety, the paid Bush shill
That fuck makes me sick.
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FrannyD Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:03 PM
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17. They are truly sick and misleading
This is their strategy. Like what they did to Kerry. When people were questioning Bush's service in war they diverted attention to Kerry's record. They always compare apples with oranges. Comparing Clinton's BJ with Bush's illegal war, Comparing Murtha to Michael Moore, etc. If people continue to fall for this shit then we deserve them. Callers into c'span keep on comparing this scandal to Clinton's ties to China. Go figure
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WhereThereIsFire Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:12 PM
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18. Here's what I sent to Tweety ...
The crawl on your show last night was misleading, to put it mildly.

Of course YOU KNOW that the vast majority of Abramoff's bribe money went to Republicans and that most of them knew precisely what they were getting and what they were expected to provide in return.

The VERY FEW Democrats who received paltry amounts, received it indirectly and did not agree to any action in return for those funds. Your crawl implied just the opposite.

I suppose you assume your viewers have two digit IQ's and don't do their own independent research. Hey, just a few computer clicks will take even a child to multiple sources that will give them information that corrects your skewed crawl. But, do you REALLY want to be seen as buffoon apologist for a pack of criminals?

Talk about shrinking credibility!!!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:24 PM
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19. Done
There have been Zero ILLEGAL donations to Democrats from Jack Abramoff. You know it was associates who donated to Democrats and they were not ILLEGAL donation.

You are a carpenter in the House that Jack Built

Why do you continue to MISLEAD people.. Can't you see by now the DAMAGE such practices have done the world?

Why not the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

www.opensecrets.org will show you in case you somehow BELIEVE what you post on your show.

You should come clean to your viewers about that Capitol Athletic Foundation that you helped "Jack"raise money for in march of 2003--When less than one percent went to sports related programs for youths.

The whole world is still watching. We are waiting for journalists to tell the truth. There may still be time to undo some of the damage done by MISLEADING.

When you participate thus, you are a carpenter in the House that Jack Built!

XXXXXX
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:30 PM
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20. done...(nt)
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