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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:37 PM
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Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 11:07 PM by Mythsaje
For those of you who haven't been following along, this is a continuation of my "I couldn't help myself, I am SO bad," post, which has been at the top of the Greatest List all day.

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As much as I hate to say this, you can't really trust the TV media at all anymore. They pretty much signed on with the invasion of Iraq (complete with enhanced graphics and splash screens) and "embedded" themselves into the policy decision. With all the debate that's been happening since, if they HAD encountered WMDs during the invasion, we'd've heard about it again. Loudly.

The major media outlets in the U.S. are owned by a handful of companies. Several "journalists" have admitted taking money from the administration to promote their point of view. Bush himself has remarked on the need to "catapult the propaganda."

This is one of the most secretive administrations in U.S. history, classifying more material than any other. Some of it doesn't even make sense. Reporters who dig too deep find themselves cast outside the "inner circle" and left out in the cold, while reporters who aren't reporters at all (Remember Jeff Gannon/Guckert?) who play the tune called for by the administration are allowed easy access.

We are not obligated to believe they're doing the right things--we're actually obligated to question their decisions and policies if we don't think they're the right ones. As Americans we're supposed to be involved with government, aware of the difference between patriotism and blind loyalty. We were given the responsibility, by the founding fathers, to act as a last-line defense against tyranny and corruption. If we see something that we think is wrong and don't stand up and say so, we're actually betraying our country. Apologists are the traitors. Not we who care to ask the hard questions.

That's what so many people don't seem to realize. Those who are questioning the President aren't doing it because we hate America, we're doing it because we LOVE America. We love it for everything it could be, and don't want to see its name abused by those who should also love it.

Rendition, torture, violations of the Geneva Convention and the U.S. Constitution...these things aren't the things any loyal American should simply ignore.

But too many do. Because of complacency, complicity, or sheer exhaustion.

Some of us can't. Like Alan Shore stated, some of us are embarassed by what we've become. We went from being a beacon lighting the way to something the rest of the world is regarding with a considerable amount of suspicion.

It's not right, and it's not American, to ignore the ramifications of this.

In the days following 9/11 the rest of the world marched in protest to what was done. OBL was the most reviled man in the world. In five short years all of that goodwill has been tossed away. For what? A country on the verge of civil war? A country that is now allied with Iran, the next country they're considering attacking? With NUKES? Is that what we want to see? Is that what we want to become?

All we're asking is for you all to look at all of this with more skepticism than you have. What if they're not telling you the truth? What do you do then?

What should we do?
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On Par Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:04 PM
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1. What Should We Do ?
Without owning any part of the government, we certainly need to do what we're doing. Raising our voices at the last bastian of freedom of speech - the Internet.

There is no doubt, there could be a huge swing in the electorate come November - if we have a fair count. But with all that we know, can we not imagine some unknown 'opposition upsurge' in the voting public with the exit polls being wrong - yet again?

At the moment, only 33% of American's back Dubya. I've always felt this was the core of the Freepers, and it's the Reagan Democrats that have been swinging the elections - before Diebold, that is. At this point, we hope the trend continues. That must be what Harry Reid is thinking, because otherwise, he's embarrassing me almost as much as the Rethugs.

I've watched the James Spader (Alan Shore) video a dozen times. I was pulled from my chair when it was on, and tears in my eyes at it's end. I knew I was listening to something profound, powerful, with reasoning that washed over me like an ocean wave. I could envision the power of the argument so being so powerful that every man, woman, and child would be standing and applauding the sentiments.

What can we do? We can look for a hero. Someone who can take the fight to those currently in power, and knock the door down. Paul Wellstone would have just that. Until we find a new Sir Lancelot, maybe Feingold, maybe not, we need to send letters to the editors, post on blogs, place messages on our bumpers, in short, whatever you feel will make a difference.

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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:26 AM
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9. what about a general strike?
would it be possible? i'm talking about the entire country and every job class. general strike until bushco resigns, every last one of them.

i suppose i'm just dreaming, but the only power they have comes from us.
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On Par Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:09 PM
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2. Oh Yes - And We Can Do This.....
Edited on Sat Mar-18-06 11:09 PM by On Par

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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:11 PM
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3. Brilliant !!!!! I am,,, er counting the ones in my wallet right now. nt
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On Par Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:24 PM
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4. P.S. Always Use A "Sharpie !"
..or so I've heard! lol.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:32 PM
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6. Some commie bastard wrote on my money!
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On Par Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 11:19 AM
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8. You Would Think Those Commie Bastards.....
...would understand an Imperial Presidency ! I feel for you. And to show them you're not standing for having tainted money - I'd spend it asap!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:26 PM
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5. Your time on the Greatest list has expired - can we get a link?
I missed that one. Thanks! :hi:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:36 PM
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7. Sure...
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