Has this happened to you? This is war people- and when I get pissed...

[PuraVidaDreamin]

Some Mr.Jack Crowley [e-mail], saw my Code Pink page and
decided to send me 'information' to help me change my views on
this illegal and immoral war that we are waging in Iraq. He also
has decided that enrolling me to recieve Ann Coulter's daily poison
would help me see the light.


Here is his little e-mail to me-
After reading this, I hope that you realize that you are contributing to the suicide of our country by advocating your anti war policies. Are you also against self defense??? Jack Crowley, a Normandy invasion veteran.

Little River, SC

So do I leave this poor old guy alone? He did invade Normandy after all, and
probably won't be around too much longer.

[shadowknows69]

1. Handle it with class and respect

and I think despite his original caustic comments he'll at least respect your resolve.

[misternormal]

2. Thank him for his concern about your well being...

... congratulate him on his survival during the Normandy Invasion, and tell him to stay the hell out of your e-mail.

[mdmc]

3. he deserves a reponse

:patriot:

[katmondoo]

4. I think his policies are contributing to the suicide of our country

I think you should e-mail his own message back.

[oneighty]

5. He says

he invaded Normandy.

180

[rman]

6. Maybe you can return the favor,

and subscribe him to Veterans For Peace, Smedley Butler Society, etc.

I for one don't understand how anyone who has been in a war can be pro-war.

[madokie]

41. And that is why this bunch of crim's in the whitehouse now is so dangerous

They have no inkling of what they are actually doing. Oh I'm sure in their warped little criminal minds they think they have it under control but I can say with certainty they haven't a clue. :hi:

[July]

7. If he's enrolled you w/Coulter, return the favor.

Pick someone representing our side, and sign him up. Fair's fair.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

11. Rhandi's too good for him

they all are

[July]

15. I recommend The Rude Pundit. nt

[tom_paine]

17. Bingo! Give him his own Daily Dose of Rudeness

Though in truth, Coulter is a daily dose of Nazi-style Rhetoric and WELL BEYOND mere rudeness.

[July]

23. Yes, she's just a crank. He's wild and hilarious in his righteous rants.

Coulter probably doesn't believe half of what she says, she's just trying to stay a "celebrity" so she can sell books.

[tom_paine]

33. Oh, I think she believes what she says

Never assume than Nazis don't believe in their own philosophies because they are "too over the top" for the standards by which we measure rationality.

It is a mistake, and a dangerous one, to make.

I reiterate: I think she believes every word she says as much as Julius Streicher believed every word he said.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Streicher.html

[July]

44. Could be. I know there are many Kool-Aid drinkers out there.

But I tend to see Coulter as someone driven by greed and a need for attention. It doesn't matter much whether or not SHE believes what she says, though, as long as she is providing (through her books and statements) some kind of pseudo-rationale for the true Kool-Aid drinkers to spout.

[left is right]

16. Not only that

but also every online newsletter/support group for PMS, breast cancer, single moms, Lupus, HIV, Katrina victims, etc. etc. that you can think of. In fact any/every group that has ever sent you any solicited/unsolicited email. But be fair write him an email and tell him you did so.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

19. I love how you think

O8)

[MoonRiver]

8. How do you know he invaded Normandy?

Even if he did, senility might be a factor behind his actions. Just saying.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

9. But he enrolled me to receive the schpew of Ann Coulter

I've taken the high road so far.

But ANN COULTER?

[savemefromdumbya]

47. Coulter a fate worse than death

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. No, he needs to face the truth

We all have to face the truth.

[rucky]

12. Mr. Crowley just subscribed to the Adam & Steve e-catalog n/t

[PuraVidaDreamin]

13. I'm so rucky to know you!

You're my hero!

[Clark2008]

14. He is also now receiving email updates from

the Band of Brothers: http://www.bandofbrothers2006.org/

Maybe some Democratic vets will help him see the light.

[lonestarnot]

18. Just forgetaboutit. No changing this koolaid drinker. Time waste.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

22. Hey there woman!

Exactly what I'm thinking. I've got too many brooms
to spray paint pink!

So I knew I could leave the task to some wonderful
creative DUers. But ANN COULTER!

I was groovey and calm until he did that.

[lonestarnot]

25. Wooohoooo pink BROOMS! I wish I could get on mine and ride over!

How are you lady?

[PuraVidaDreamin]

28. I wish you could too!

That gives me an idea-
I need a witch hat spray painted pink too!

I'm great- procrastinating right at the moment
Have lots to do to get the house ready to sell.

Knee scope in April- (tore meniscus surfing in Costa Rica)
Big Action 5 days later- might get arrested
March in NY 4/29
Friends wedding in Bend OR Sept. (I think she made me a
bridesmaid so that I wouldn't dress like a hippie)

How's my favorite man in Arizona?

[linazelle]

20. Hell no. Did he leave you alone?

As for the invasion of Normandy, that's all fine and good--if he actually participated. However, being a soldier or a veteran does not make his opinion about war any more valid. Being a soldier is not a credential as each of them bring different skills, experiences, politicial persuasions to the table--just as we citizens do.

[leftofthedial]

21. If king george had been in charge of WWII

Old Jack would have invaded Venezuela instead of France.

[WinkyDink]

24. Pretty much why I never give my real e-mail.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

26. I know, it sucks that mine kinda needs to be

As a contact for CodePink

[lonestarnot]

27. Send him some flaming "End the Occupation" stickers for his ass!

[PuraVidaDreamin]

32. speaking of butts

[lonestarnot]

39. Crack me up girl!

[Malikshah]

29. With class and respect tell him he is pissing on the memories

of those who fought for freedom along side him at Normandy.

Explain to him that the government has created an illegal war. That this government is quickly becoming as fascist as those that he so bravely fought against in 1944.

To no stand up to evil. To no speak truth to power is dishonorable. To advocate for this regime is to spit on the graves of his fallen comrades.

[tomp]

30. you might want to inform him: bush = nazi

does he know bush's forebears supported the nazis by doing their banking for them?

just google prescott bush nazi and see what you get. send him some of that. the bfee was in part responsible for his normandy experience.

also, thom harmann's comparison of bush to hitler is another eye-opener.

[ronnie624]

31. An 85 year-old "Normandy invasion veteran"

from South Carolina who surfs the internet? I'm more than a little skeptical. Every anonymous supporter of the invasion of Iraq that one meets on the internet seems to be a "veteran".

The fact that he regularly absorbs Ann Coulter's filth and likes it is enough to tell you what sort of individual he is. If he is a veteran of WW II then he has become what he was fighting against. I say send him a scorching reply.

[freethought]

46. I would agree, something here is fishy

It's entirely possible that the message is legit. But in reading it, one just gets the feeling that something isn't on the up and up.

[Javaman]

34. Just say...

"I respect your service to the country, but I'm sorry to see that you now have Alzheimer's, my sympathy to your friends and family."

[malmapus]

35. Been lookin him up

Found a posting on Bartcop

From: [e-mail]

Subject: socialist site?

THIS SITE IS SO FULL OF SHIT!!!!
WHY DON'T YOU JUST ADMIT THAT YOU ARE SOCIALISTS?
YOU KNOW IF THIS COUNTRY HAD A VIABLE SOCIALIST PARTY, GOD FORBID,
75% OF THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS WOULD ADMIT THAT THEY ARE SOCIALISTS.

I'LL BET THAT EVEN AT LEAST 25% OF THE REPUBLICANS WOULD ALSO ADMIT IT.
THEY RUN AS DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY
COULD NOT BE ELECTED IF THEY RUN AS SOCIALISTS.

YOU BASTARDS ARE SLOWELY BUT SURELY TURNING THIS COUNTRY INTO A SOCIALIST STATE.

KEEP IT UP AND WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER CIVIL WAR.


Now I dunno about you, but the WWII vets I've known don't go posting like that on sites, lol if they even bother with the internet.

[SPKrazy]

36. Tell Him To Go F** Himself!!

This isn't WW2!

[PuraVidaDreamin]

37. Hey, thanks- So this guy is making the rounds

well now...
Time to have fun!
heh heh heh...

[Maru Kitteh]

53. My, that's quite a filthy tirade from a man who sits on the board of

Trustees at his church. Page 3. http://umcsc.net/churches/littleriver/littleriverumc/ChurchOff2006.pdf



Jack also advocates for others to harass an individual with the ACLU through their email
"I think that it would be nice if everyone sent this to the ACLU at [e-mail]




Jack Crowley <[e-mail]>
Little River, S.C. USA - Monday, October 3, 2005 at 19:45:54 " http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/Guestbook/page175.html

Screw this tiny, small minded little prick. He shouldn't be giving it if he can't take it.

[roseBudd]

38. Send him my flyer, hopefully he respects the views of Generals Odom,

Clark and CIA Dir. Porter Goss

http://bushcheated04.com/war2.pdf

[DanCa]

40. You know there all for war but they wont fight in it.

All have their own damn kids bleed in it. You know if these asshats would start enlisting maybe they would have a little more credibilty in their pro war stance.

[Maru Kitteh]

42. I think you should sign him up to some "barely legal" gay porn sites

And tell him one sick invasion of privacy deserves an equal turn. See how the senile old bastard likes it. Set up a separate, disposable email account to do this from if you like. Another option: Google his name and find out if he's involved in any clubs or organizations then send invitations to those same porn sites to his fellow members in his name with HIS email listed.

Sorry, I don't have any sympathy for bastards like this.

[Strawman]

43. Your attention is his oxygen

Ignore him. You're not going to cure what is probably a life long case of undiagnosed paranoia with persuasion or some snappy retort.

[Minnesota Libra]

45. No, you don't ignore it. You respect his service and tell him.......

....something like, "While I highly respect your service in Normandy and the freedoms we have enjoyed since because of your service I have one question for you. Why did we go into Normandy in the first place when the Germans DID NOT attack us. Why did we not concentrate all our military might on Japan who had indeed attacked us? Oh, and by the way Sir, WWII was a Congress declared war, Iraq isn't."

In other words be VERY RESPECTFUL of his service but also challenge his accepted beliefs.

Just my thoughts.

[pitohui]

49. that is not a very good suggestion

i think you must be teasing: why did we go into normandy in the first place when the germans DID NOT attack us

it might have a little to do w. the fact that japan and germany were allies and when we declared war on japan, germany declared war on us, it isn't like we just landed on the beach out of a clear blue sky, you know

these emails from strangers are all lies coming from the wingnut astroturfers anyway, this dude no more served in normandy than i did

[pitohui]

48. he didn't invade normandy my friend

anybody can say anything in an email but you can be pretty sure that 99 percent of what you read in such emails is lies

i delete them unread and block the sender -- even if the sender be some delusional acquaintances

that is why despite my age i have the blood pressure readings of a 19 yr old

[kentuck]

50. Times change and all wars are not the same...

Just because we may have done the right thing in one does not make all wars legitimate. We cannot support a war that is promoted on such lies and deception as given by this Administration. Why do they need the lies and deception?

[baby_mouse]

51. :eyes: GO IN ALL GUNS BLAZING

1. What evidence do YOU have that he was ANYWHERE NEAR Normandy?

2. Even if he was it makes no difference WHATSOEVER, good thing and bad things don't cancel each other OUT.

3. Being of the Left, it's time you understood how the other side perceives you and what your weaknesses are, i.e. "MMEEEEEEEEH, I *sacrificed* myself for you and now you're telling me not to support burning civilians to death, MEEEEEEEEEHHH...." will slip past your radar towards the part of you that feels sympathy.

4. Perhaps you should ask him which side he was on?

5. His mental allergy to socialism is pathological. Treat it as such.

It's time to stop allowing these dicks to use our good nature against us.

[Bridget Burke]

52. This mystery guy is "using" the Normandy invasion....

Just as Bush used the graves of those who died. The WWII generation has just about died out in my family. This guy would be REALLY old--if he were telling the truth.