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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:17 PM
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Bush Sr. Quote: "the most insidious of traitors"
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 02:18 PM by cynatnite
Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.

George H.W. Bush
April 16th, 1999
Dedication Speech
George Bush Center for Intelligence

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/28/video-bush-i

**********

What does Daddy think of his boy now?

:evilgrin:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:19 PM
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1. This could be what is behind the rift between father and son...
and why Poppy's been parading around the country with Bill Clinton.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:19 PM
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2. Bush1 knows full well both his wife and son are vindictive and evil.
They'll do the things themselves that he only gets others to do.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:23 PM
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4. hahaha nice! Bush Sr. was a statesman - he refused to get his hands dirty
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:44 AM
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31. Don't count on it.
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 09:46 AM by formercia
I have first-hand knowledge. He's just as slimy as Fearless Leader, just better at getting away with it.

Like Father, like Son.

Inbreeding doesn't make the offspring better, just more consistent.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:22 PM
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3. I actually drove past the Center for Intelligence yesterday.
My boss and I nearly wrecked the car because we were laughing so hard.

He wants me to take a picture of the sign next time through the area.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:10 PM
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19. Picture of the sign


I took it just the other day. I drive by it all the time, and it never ceases to make me chuckle.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:27 PM
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25. I especially love the "No Outlet" sign next to it
Really, the irony almost makes up for having such an eyesore (and distraction to drivers) cluttering the landscape.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:54 PM
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28. I'd laugh every single time I drove past it. n/t
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:22 AM
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30. Thanks a ton. It's going on my office door this morning.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:25 PM
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5. It's almost Shakespearian.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:26 PM
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6. it is indeed an epic tragedy of corruption and lies
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:28 PM
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7. I'm posting this on a winger site.....
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:34 PM
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8. Wasn't he, at one time, the head of the CIA?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:42 PM
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23. Yes, and a long time spook
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reichstag911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:35 PM
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9. Thanks!
I knew the quote was out there, but I'm at work, so I didn't want to look... Anyway, I just copy/pasted the whole thing, including your closing line, to the White House with the subject line "words of wisdom from George Bush."
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:37 PM
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10. Indeed
The Most Insidious of Traitors
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Tuesday 30 September 2003

"Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."

-- George Herbert Walker Bush, 1999

Karl Rove, senior political advisor to George W. Bush, is a very powerful man. That is not to say he has never been in trouble. Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush Sr. campaign for trashing Robert Mosbacher, Jr., who was the chief fundraiser for the campaign and an avowed Bush loyalist. Rove accomplished this trashing of Mosbacher by planting a negative story with columnist Bob Novak. The campaign figured out that Karl had done the dirty deed, and he was given his walking papers.

More: http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/093003A.shtml
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:47 PM
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11. Thanks for that, Will
This was one of the first articles of yours I read. That was during the time I started getting educated about bush and his cabal. I remember thinking, 'these guys are worse than I thought'.

I still had no idea at the time how truly criminal they are or what they were capable of.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 02:52 PM
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12. We'll be sorting that one out for decades...
That one being just how truly criminal these guys have been and are.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:03 PM
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13. Bush Sr.
Come on guys, do some backround. Yes he was head of CIA, but he was considered hands off the dirty stuff, but generally honest. This stuff goes way back, and those of us who remember Nixon have seen this movie before. I am only surprised that so so many are surprised. I know i'm late on this thread, but i'm comp. illiterate, sorry.
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:26 PM
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21. Hey, you're doin' okay on the PC ... you're getting your thoughts out
and we're readin' 'em! :)

But I have done some background on Poppy Bush, and I have concluded there's no way he could have existed and thrived within the corrupt, venal, and greedy Bush Family without at the very least permitting the rottenness to continue unabated. Considering what happened during his Presidency, I think most of us would say his "kinder and gentler" meme was never something genuinely in his heart but only deceptive PR.

Also, what about his membership in the Carlyle group and the other secret societies that bode ill for humanity? Remember that other term he pushed his entire four years in the White House: "A New World Order." ??

I'll continue my research, but for now, naw, I just ain't buyin' that Poppy Bush was a straight shooter. Half the people in W's administration are the same guys who served his father; they just switched around the titles a bit (like that would fool us).

If I find anything to indicate my present opinion of BushI is incorrect, I'll be the first to post it here for discussion!


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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:52 PM
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24. Thanks, Will, for linking to your 2003 article on this,
and thanks, Cynatnite, for the thread!

When the Plame story first broke nationally, I immediately recalled that GHWB had been Director of the CIA, if only for a relatively short time; and one of my first thoughts was, "Geez, surely Poppy Bush can't be happy about THIS dirty trick from the White House!"

Even if his service within "the Agency" was brief, still you'd think BushII developed some appreciation of and a sense of loyalty (to some extent) to its people and its principles. Including -- and especially! -- respect and loyalty to the covert operatives who, in order to protect American citizens, take the biggest risk of all to their own lives and wellbeing.

I've read many comments here and elsewhere speculating on the relationship between Dubya and his father. But the one thing I sense in my gut about them is that they probably never speak openly and frankly with each other -- about anything significant, but particularly about their political views and activities past or present.

My brother and I were like that in a more general way with our dad, who was a tyrant and scary to talk with in ANY manner. In our case, it was the parent who had the power (or the remaining, intense aura of power even after we became adults) that intimidated and squelched us. While, with respect to the Bushes I and II, the son has the power and wields it with a savage ruthlessness that might shock into silence even his own ex-president dad!

I'll bet the two of them are downright awkward and uncommunicative around each other, essentially. All of Dimson's deliberately adopted behavioral traits he uses to attempt to appear as "a regular guy" in order to appeal to voters who are regular guys are affectations that are transparent to me and many others. Surely even as a young man he foresaw a political future for himself. Somehow I tend to think he purposely but mistakenly figured that if he fell in with a certain crowd in college and adopted the rich-guy version of a "homey" attitude, with its attendant mannerisms, he would fool most American voters later on. Or perhaps he wasn't mistaken in that assumption initially, as he obviously seems to have fooled many, even if it wasn't honestly as many as the final vote tally indicated in either of his (s)elections.

Either way, thank you, Will Pitt, for the clear thinking you exhibit and which you have apparently shown for a number of years before I ever heard of ya! :)

That you wrote this article in 2003 while it could easily be republished verbatim NOW and remain accurate is a testamonial to either your prescience or your acute insight and informed intelligence -- or all of the above, which I've come to appreciate since I joined DU. (Not flattering you, just recognizing your abilities as I've noticed others do, and expressing my own thanks.)

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 03:04 PM
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14. Daddy had to live with the stench of his traitorous father, Prescott,
his entire life. Now, he has to live the stench of his traitorous brood.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:03 PM
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15. self-kick
:kick:
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:05 PM
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16. This needs a 5th recommendation
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 04:05 PM by Czolgosz
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:07 PM
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17. Great Catch! Recommended.
:toast:
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Montagnard Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:08 PM
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18. "the most insidious of traitors"
hmmm, I think that about sums up my opinion of GW and Cheney.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:15 PM
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20. When Daddy was COMPLETELY ignored at the Republican Convention,
I think he knew Jr. didn't really care about him. When Woodward asked Jr. about his father and Jr. replied that he "spoke to a higher father" reveals volumes about this relationship.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 04:35 PM
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22. Doh! Even father knows best.
Thanks! I was trying to remember that quote.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 08:29 PM
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26. W getting hoisted on Poppy's petard. . .sweet.
Edited on Thu Apr-06-06 08:29 PM by DinahMoeHum
:evilgrin:
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 11:52 PM
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27. k&r
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:13 AM
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29. Still wrong: WH pardons for co-conspirators is more traitorous n/t
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:05 PM
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32. The George Bush Center for Intelligence?
Did you mean to say the George Bush search for intelligence?

:sarcasm:
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