TYT: Olberman Opened The Door For Liberals To Get In Media

[ihavenobias]

Run time: 06:41 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM_-5SF3E6Y   Posted on YouTube: May 09, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: May 11, 2008 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 4199

 
In case you missed it, A Tidal Wave Of Liberals Is Coming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlqOvxS28Vg

And I defy any Republican to listen to or read this and ever vote Republican again:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3267136&mesg_id=3267136

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[CherylK]

1. K & R for Keith!

:)

[OhioChick]

2. K&R

I like Keith! :)

[muyojoe]

3. God bless America and Keith!

Because until he came along, the media had lost me. I still don't like Matthews. Cnn has hired all these right wing shills, and seems to blather on about brittany spears way too much these days. But Keith is a weekday night habit for me. I don't want the media to be left and right, but as long as fox is around and cnn has lost its mind, then MSNBC is my only hope. The day time live hosts tend to be a little right wing to me, sometimes.

Thanks for the post about cenk.

[ihavenobias]

4. I listened to the original segment of this, and Cenk's point is NOT that the entire network is...

His point is not that all of MSNBC is suddenly liberal (the most blatant example is Joe Scarborough of course), but rather that Olbermann has slowly but surely had a positive effect on many of them.

As he said, the work is far from over but it *is* true that they are starting to go after some issues from a more reasonable frame as opposed to always going from the Republican frame. I couldn't believe it when Brian Williams asked Senator Brownback about Hagee, or when Russert brought it up suggesting that it'll be a topic for discussion as the Dem primary winds down, etc.

And while I wouldn't say Abrams is a super progressive, I've also been quietly impressed with some of the points he's made on his show. He is much, much more fair than many other hosts out there IMO.

But again, we all (including Cenk) recognize there is still a long, long way to go (oh, and he rips on Blitzer from CNN all the time for buying into Republican framing, which he does).

[muyojoe]

8. Funny, I did NOT say that all of msnbc was liberal.

In fact I didn't mention Joe at all, because I won't even watch it while he's on. Cenk mentioned matthews, so I did. I also listed MSNBC as my only hope, because Keith is on it. I'm sorry if I conveyed that so poorly that you felt the need to correct me so thoroughly.

[ihavenobias]

12. Hey

I wasn't so much directing my comments toward you, it was more of a pre-emptive strike against someone about to rant about Scarborough and also watered down right leaning centrists on MSNBC.

I'm sorry if I conveyed that so poorly that you felt the need to correct *me* so thoroughly. :)

[muyojoe]

14. Fair Enough

[Cosmocat]

24. eh ...

I do think he made more of a blanket statement about it, "they have Fox, we have MSNBC and CNN is in the middle" ... That is the quote pretty much ...

I also don't agree that Olbermann is necessarily progressive or liberal ... I guess you could say that with him, cause he overwhelmingly takes Rs to school ... But, again, there is a difference ... He isn't lying, spinning or just flat out making crape up like the Glenn Becks of the MSM do ... He simply takes THEIR OWN WORDS and makes them own them ...

Certainly, Abrams isn't a progressive or liberal ... I think he simply has broken away from the second conservative media principal - it is OK to not suck conservative teet if you counter it by banging on democrats ... Abrams seems to be as much of a honest broker as possible, and it breaks toward cutting on Rs cause they simply are worse ...

Saw "Hannities America" last night just to get that sick feeling in my gut ... First piece was him railing on the new Pastor in BO's church ... Second piece was some second rate hit job on Michelle Obama - how much she hates America and how someone so privileged has the gall to knock a country that you are only worthy of living in if you view it from the sunny Ronald Reagan view ... Just surreal and bizarre ...

Sorry, there is NO ONE in the MSM, not Olbermann, not anyone, who promotes anything NEAR that level of fiction ...

It isn't being progressive or liberal to simply expose the truth ...

[sasquatch]

5. Great work guys

[jjr5]

6. Good post n/t

[90-percent]

7. 5th rec here

GOD BLESS OLBERMANN!

TYT rocks!

-90% jimmy

[lifesbeautifulmagic]

9. what i would like to know is when the Dems clean the repubs clock next

nov, are liberals finally going to be treated fairly and equally in the media? If the news shows, cable and otherwise were really serving the public interests, and not just sucking up to their advertisers, we would be. And if advertisers really wanted to get to mainstream America, they would demand it. So is it going to happen?

[Frisbee]

10. Now it's time

to give Rachel her own show. The could drop lockup or lockdown or whatever the Hell they call it. It would be nice too, to maybe see Cenk invited for some of the upcoming discussions during the GE. It would also be nice to see Scarborough and Buchanan sent packing. I think they'd both be much more at home on CNN or even Faux.

[ihavenobias]

21. I agree and

I'd also love for Cenk to have his own show.

[Window]

11. K/R. Thanks for sharing.

:kick:

[Quantess]

13. I liked the video you linked "Tidal Wave of Liberals is Coming" even better.

He is right. I sure hope TV news networks figure it out.

[Cieran]

15. John McCain: Judges must obey the President!

Maybe Judges would respect Congress and respect the President more if they didn't act like this was a 2 branch government (White House actually pretends it's a 1 branch gov!).

Respect is a two-way street. The Judicial branch is CO-EQUAL.

[navarth]

16. Double-Chocolate K&R with whipped cream on top for KO

I guess you could say KO opened the door for liberals on TV....but I also remember Phil "should get the medal of freedom" Donahue, doing a visit on Bill Maher, reminding us that he got fired for doing liberal TV while holding MSNBC's highest ratings. He said Keith couldn't have done then what he does now, and I, for one, believe him. Not to be down on Keith at all, he's totally THE MAN.

But as far as opening the door? Perhaps the money men at MSNBC at LONG LAST figured out that they could make money with liberal TV. DUH!! (fucking idiots) So they gave KO a shot and he hit it into the next county. And now hopefully we get a Rachel Maddow show, and OMG I'd love to see Cenk get a gig there, and get enough money that he could get Ben back, and have more visits from Jill, Michael Shure, and my boy Wes Clark Jr.

Just some random thoughts on Mother's Day. Go Wings

[CherylK]

17. Bump!

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. About time, he opened a door that

has been closed for a long time.

[chill_wind]

19. He has been a candle in the dark, in these RW MSM dark ages.

Before K.O we had no one like him. Fact. It was awfully damn depressing. Still is, but at least there is him.

[Zachstar]

20. This is good!

[democracy1st]

22. K & R

[McCamy Taylor]

23. No, he replaced Phil Donahue who would not pimp the war. Donahue was the highest rated MSNBC

show and they fired him, because he would not cheer the phony-baloney invasion of Iraq. Phil Donahue was doing liberal on TV when KO was doing sports.

Do people treat their minds like computers these days? Do they wipe the hard drive every couple of years? Is that why they can not remember anything that happened more than four years ago?

KO started out as scab labor. He got his liberal break when he decided to cover Ohio 2004, after CBS took out Dan Rather and Mary Mapes and there was no team left to cover the Selection.

[zeemike]

25. Even longer than that

Donahue was doing it back in the Early 70s on a syndicated show out of Cleavland Oh.
I used to watch it every morning then when I got off the graveyard shift. It was great he would have guests on that no one else would have and the audience got to ask the m questions.

[Berry Cool]

29. Technically, that show was out of Dayton

but it used to be shown in the Cleveland area, yes--I remember it well. The theme music was "Banda" by Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass.

Olbermann succeeded on MSNBC where Donahue failed in part because he didn't come right out of the gate in March 2003 doing a show that rattled anyone's cage. It was more of a straight news show at a time when MSNBC was afraid to look unsupportive of the war. But as the show went on and found its audience, KO felt more courageous about bringing forth a little opinion based on the facts. His show was also cheaper for MSNBC to produce because it didn't involve a studio audience, so it didn't need to be wildly successful out of the gate to justify its continued existence. MSNBC could afford to give Countdown time to find loyal viewers--which it did, the more KO spoke his piece and it became clear that his "piece" wasn't just more of the White House talking points.

[zeemike]

30. Dayton of course

I was in Florida at the time and it ran there for probably two years before they pulled it. And I wrote a nasty letter to the TV station because I loved that show and the format. He was way ahead of his time.

And that is a good analysis of what happened...it sounds about right.

[ihavenobias]

26. As a wise man once said "Calm down, you're at a 10 and you need to be at a 2"

You do realize that Cenk and Donahue are friends, and that Donahue has not only been a guest on the show, but that they've talked about these very topics (MSNBC, Olbermann and the state of the MSM), right? http://youngturks.vo.llnwd.net/o1/2-8-08Donahue.wmv

PS---Donahue also came by last month, and this time he was in-studio: http://youngturks.wmod.llnwd.net/a591/o1/4-22-08PhilDonahue_Full.wmv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdCKfyWJAqY (The YouTube clip is just an excerpt)

[The Wizard]

27. What's remarkable

is that over half the population doesn't have equal representation in the corporate media.
The big money controls the message and how many Americans vote. Every time they presented the Swift Boat hit pieces on John Kerry as news they contributed to a party and candidate that would push for legislation that was designed to make the media moguls more powerful and wealthy at the expense of the vast majority.
This is why people vote against their own best interests.
Olbermann, for the most part, is exposing the right wing for what it is, Un-american and duplicitous.
There's is so much in the media that is presented as news but is really propaganda, that Keith Olbermann is a light in a dark room.
Verizon FIOS TV service does not carry MSNBC, and when I told them that's why I wouldn't buy what they were selling they said that was one of the major reasons people won't sign up. The question is: How many dollars will Verizon lose until the stock holders tell management to put aside their right wing ideology and give the people what they want? When ever I have a reason to contact Verizon, I let them know why they don't have money going from my account to theirs.

[SlingBlade]

28. Good Post !

McCain complaining about “Activist Federal Judges“ is such
a Right Wing Hypocrisy after the 2000 election that he should
be tarred and feathered for even mentioning this as an issue.

As Fat Tony Scalia say’s, Get over it John !!!

[democracy1st]

31. i've got to kick this,very important

[tavalon]

32. Olbermann has my admiration for many things and this is one of them

I would prefer that we mostly obliterate partisan "reporting" but since the fairness doctrine is gone, this is the best we can hope for. I do wish Olbermann would let go of the O'Reilly feud. It's frankly beneath him and embarrassing to watch.