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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 02:58 PM
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Faces Of Hate - a scary 1st hand account by someone who stumbled accross supporters of Proposition 8
 
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""I was on my way home from the Lakeshore district when I encountered this group of supporters of Prop 8. After turning my vidphone on, I was screamed at, physically intimidated and eventually attacked by one of the more aggressive sign-wavers.

Approx two dozen people were standing under the I-580, chanting "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" and "Mom and Dad, not Dad and Dad", etc. There were at least three counter-protesters present as well.

For several minutes prior to shooting this footage, I watched from a distance. One of the Prop 8 supporters lunged at a solitary man holding a "Vote No on Prop 8" sign. She didn't actually touch him, but she got right up in his face, screaming. She was loud enough that you could hear her several blocks away. As far as I could see, he hadn't provoked her in any way beyond the dissenting opinion stated on his sign. The man seemed to remain quiet and calm throughout. Witnessing this, I decided to turn on my phone's video application and approach.

Proponents of Prop 8 have gone to great lengths to try to deny the inherent fear, anger and bigotry fueling their camp's desire to ban gay marriage. However, these Prop 8 supporters (and many other protesters I've seen in recent weeks) were visibly enraged and screaming themselves hoarse in their righteous indignation over the recent legalization of same-sex marriage in the state of California.

Something to keep in mind: when I hit the record button, I hadn't said a single word to anyone, or interfered with the rally in any way. I stood a fair distance from all of the sign-wavers (remaining at least four feet away from all of them...until they approached me). But as soon as they noticed me filming them, I was greeted with curses and threats of violence. "Get that shit out of here. I'll knock it out of your hand." None of these folks knew me, yet they instantly knew they hated me.

Eventually, as you can see, some of the protesters surrounded me and began poking at me with their signs. Others, some of the most visibly angry and hysterical among them (apparently minors), hid their faces behind their banners while continuing to scream at passing traffic.

I asked the most aggressive woman (who was not underage) "are you afraid to be online?" She answered, "oh, no, they already videotaped me, but these kids don't want to be online, cause they're loaded on a sexual perv profile and look at my little cousins." Fair enough. I'm all for protecting the innocent. (Not that there's anything particularly innocent about shouting hate speech in public.)

"Go away, Nasty Nasty. Nasty, nasty, nasty, nasty."

The woman continued to poke at my face with her sign and call me "nasty." Genuinely disturbed by the complete lack of rational behavior I'd seen up to this point, wanting to look into her face and possibly connect on some level with her as a fellow human being, I pulled a corner of the sign down away from my eyes and asked "why are you calling me nasty?"

That's when she attacked, clawing, grabbing and then shoving. I didn't fight back; she was much bigger than me. Calling me a "nasty fucker" and threatening to kick my ass, she pried my phone out of my hand and tried to break it in half while her friends egged her on.

I never touched or threatened her in any way (unless you want to consider my pulling the edge of her sign out of eye-poking territory a threatening gesture).

As she grabbed at my phone, I stood there stunned, not really sure what to do. One of the counter-protesters (the woman who you see saying "No on Prop 8" towards the beginning of this clip) quickly intervened and calmed the attacking woman down enough that I felt safe enough to dart forward to try to take my phone back. After a second or two of grappling, she let go and went back to screaming at cars from a lawn chair near the side of the road.

(Big love and gratitude to the kindly counter-protester who pleaded for calm. I don't think my phone would have survived without you!)

I stood there for another minute or two, checking the phone's applications for damage. One of the other sign-wavers, a teenage boy standing nearby, leaned over and whispered "fuck you, dyke."

Even though I wasn't hurt besides a small scratch on my hand, and my phone was okay, being attacked definitely shook me up. I was a bit tearful. Call me naive, but I never thought I'd actually be in physical danger just for shooting footage of their activity and pulling the edge of a person's sign out of my eyes. Verbal insults, sure. But attacked by an anti-gay activist? In one of the most queer-friendly neighborhoods in the bay area? Yikes.

The man holding the "Vote No" sign noticed that I was in tears and approached me. We hugged to a chorus of jeers, exchanged some reassuring words, and I turned to leave. Someone called after me: "keep crying, and keep walking." "
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:03 PM
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1. Where is the Lakeshore district? nt
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:13 PM
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6. That's Oakland, CA
I passed them last night. I gave them a thumbs-down. Will again tonight. I hope the OP files criminal charges.
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DRex Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:04 PM
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2. What a hideous group of people.
Glad you made it out with just the scratch.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:09 PM
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5. It wasn't my story, just passing it on. I think she deserves lots of e-hugs...
...if you visit the original.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:06 PM
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3. What are they screaming?
All I can make out is "Yes, I Hate. Yes, I Hate."
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:15 PM
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7. Basically, but if you really were wondering what they were saying...
"Yes, on 8."
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:09 PM
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4. Thank God for Christian love
Dear Lord, save me from your followers. :eyes:
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:16 PM
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8. What a bunch of closet cases.
Afraid of the gayness in themselves, so they turn it outward into hatred toward their fellow men and women. How else do you explain that top-of-the-lungs screaming? There's more there than just "I'm a little uncomfortable around gay people" going on there. Anti-gay hysteria, to me, is revealing something buried deep inside these people.

C'mon scary screaming haters ... wave your inner rainbow flag. You'll feel much better being honest with yourselves.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:22 PM
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11. I have to say it's pretty shocking to see that in Oaktown
Edited on Fri Oct-31-08 03:23 PM by wryter2000
Those a-holes were standing in Barbara Lee's district. We don't put up with a lot of hate here.

I didn't see any counterprotestors last night, although I have before. They're very brave people.

On edit: I hope their head explode when their attempts to deny civil rights are denied.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:18 PM
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9. so, they can stand on a street corner yelling stuff but
they dont want to be on the internet?

oh wait, silly me for expecting them to be logical on ANY idea or thought....duh.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:20 PM
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10. Must be Michael Savage listeners.
That's just my theory.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:24 PM
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12. You make the mistake of assuming rationality and moral equivalence. Big mistake
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 03:54 PM
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13. They don't look old enough to vote, let alone sway others by cheerleading
Rules don't apply to you if you are on the "Right" side.

When confronted with logic and reason, attack and take control back from a losing situation.

Still, it is disturbing to see them hiring kids to do this kind of work.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 04:10 PM
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14. I really, really hate these people.
I wouldn't piss on that screeching slag if she was on fire.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 04:24 PM
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15. Video no longer available.
:-( I am so sorry that this happened to you. I am stunned.
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Dookiestix Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 04:34 PM
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16. Holy shit...
I had no idea this was happening where I was born and raised for most of my life. I live in San Francisco now, and I guarantee you I haven't seen a SINGLE proponent for 8 anywhere, not even a hint.

Your story just brings more tears to my eyes and pain in my heart. But what is also deeply disturbing is that the Mormon Church from another state has poured in over $25 million in promoting Proposition 8. This is coming from the same religious assholes who believe in more than one wife and who believe that when they die that they'll get their own planet.

This is what progress in this nation is bringing out. They're all coming out of the woodwork, from rabid proponents of 8 to insane, racist pricks who support McCain/Palin. And as the economy gets worse and their lives continue to go down the shithole, the angrier they're going to get.

I'm glad you got out of there when you did. I fear it's going to get a whole lot worse, as hate crimes against gays and lesbians is on the rise.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 04:47 PM
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18. I live in Sacramento
And yesterday my son saw a lot of "Yes on 8" protesters, including children. Absolutely insane.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 04:39 PM
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17. I like your Christ -- I do not like your Christians
Gandhi

I will be photographing the Yes on 8 people who will most assuredly come to our Pride March this Sunday. Wish me luck. Of course, with thousands of gay and lesbian people around, I'm sure the haters won't be so aggressive. After all, they are cowards.



Anti-gay Christians at play:



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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 05:06 PM
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19. Any else reminded of news-reels of Hitler's followers
From the thirties and forties? :scared:
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 07:34 PM
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20. That's assault
I can't believe that this could go on without law enforcement stopping it.
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