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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:24 AM
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Is Obama endorsing investigations into Bush's torture program?
 
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:30 AM
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1. Is he afraid or what?
Is this going to be a subject that he considers to be "devisive" to our country? I think perhaps. But I'm afraid the truth has to be told before we can heal and move on. If that means the right wing ass hats are going to get all tied up in their underwear, that's tough shit.

President Obama....this country deserves better than to "sweep under the carpet" high crimes and misdemeanors from the previous administration and those in power in our recent past. Are we going to make this another "Japanese internment" incident, where we just go on pretending it never happened?? I thought my country was stronger than this.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:32 AM
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2. I hope so. I don't really see how he can get around it without being complicit in those activities.
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 11:32 AM by AndyA
If he has reason to believe a crime was committed, by not investigating and prosecuting that crime, he's helping to cover it up. I hope President Obama is above that. I think he is, but time will tell for certain.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:32 AM
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3. I agree...
It will be worked out over time...TIME is on our side.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:10 PM
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6. Not really. There are statutes of limitations. Unless the crimes involve murder. Some do.
But if the republicans are allowed to get away with this. I shudder to think what what they will do the next time they capture the White House. We could actually see Nazi Death camps. As long as a Republican lead congress Passes a law requiring any that does not swear absolute allegiance to the Republican party (remember the loyalty contracts)to be put to death. We wouldn't be able to use the US Code against Genocide against them. Because the Code exempts from prosecution for genocide and of the prohibit acts is they are done as a matter of law. That is absolutely ridiculous. Because Genocide is almost always done as a matter of law. Our own law against Genocide would actually protect Hitler from prosecution for the holocaust if he were to do that here and now. Because he would merely be enforcing the Nuremberg laws that resulted in the holocaust. So lets just say the stage is set for an American Genocide should radical and extremist leaning Republicans desire to produce that particular lil morality play. :hide:
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:59 PM
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8. Scary scenario!!!
Lets hope Obama gets the economy turned around and this will free up some political room to go after the idiots that rewrote the laws.
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Reform Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 01:57 PM
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4. bagram
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:10 PM
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5. Obama made a deal. Watch this video of Armitage.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/richard-armitage-on-tortu_n_187391.html

Armitage, the most mealy-mouthed enabler in the entire Bush administration, says, Bush wants reconciliation and to move forward. Armitage is lying in this video, in my opinion.

I will bet you that some sort of squeeze was made on Obama, and that he agreed not to prosecute and to do what he could to see that there would be no prosecutions of the crimes of the Bush administration. Obama's failure to prosecute, if as I suspect, it was part of some sort of deal, is possibly criminal in itself, and certainly morally reprehensible. The problem with making that kind of sleazy deal is that people like Limbaugh and Cheney can continue to claim the moral highground.

If I am right, and I base my opinion on my experience with settlements and negotiations in other matters, the criminals in the Bush administration will find a way to circumvent whatever they gave in exchange for the out of jail card and Obama will feel like a fool in the end. There is a reason why lawyers make sure that settlements are not only confidential but written and signed by all parties.

By the way, I heard on Thom Hartmann this morning that the Attorney General in Spain is putting a stop to the investigation of Bush administration criminals. So, I guess Obama's people were quite persuasive in their discussions with their counterparts in Spain.

Obama thinks that all he has to do is release the memos with the names of the victims blocked out and all will be well. No way. Well meaning as his gesture of amnesty may be, it will be perceived as a sign of weakness by the far right here in the U.S. and will set off very bad behavior in a lot of exremists.
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Sam1 Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 02:46 PM
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7. He said very little of any substance. This was a wonderful
example of a gifted politician maintaining the appropriate level of ambiguity.
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