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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:40 PM
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The Cigarette is Dead
 
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http://www.thecigaretteisdead.com/

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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:46 PM
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1. I'm killing one right now
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 01:47 PM by vanboggie
And no, I don't need your lectures, please. :smoke:






Edited to add "please".
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:48 PM
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2. It's not me.
It's society.


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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:59 PM
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3. Smoking killed approx. 90 million worldwide in the 20th century.

For Comparison:
Total Deaths During the 20th Century
Smallpox
Smoking
Abortions
Cats and Dogs
Influenza Epidemic, 1918-19
AIDS
Homicides
Disasters
Racism
Decommunization
Medical Mistakes
Eaten by Tigers



http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat8.htm#Smoking
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:14 PM
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4. yeah, and the site owner is unknown
So who is to say that this isn't another *paid for by big tobacco in order to keep from being sued* commercial?

:yawn:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:17 PM
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5. Yeah. It could be anyone. Too bad there isn't some way to search the internet.
Funded by Amendment 35, the campaign was created for the Colorado State Tobacco Education & Prevention Partnership

http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/quitdoingit/35430/
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:26 PM
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6. Is the goal of that ad to pass legislation about public smoking, or to encourage people to quit?
It's a rather didactic and "in yer face" work. I would think it might make smokers feel a bit defensive.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:43 PM
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7. The latter. Plus it seems to be be aimed at expanding the growing anti-smoking viewpoint of society.
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 02:49 PM by onehandle
It's saying smoking has gone from common to unhealthy to socially unacceptable.

Expect to see much more of this type of message.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:05 PM
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8. I don't smoke, but that ad wouldn't encourage me to quit if I did.
In fact, I think it might motivate me to have a "fuck you" cigarette!

Any time an ad (or a person, or an organization) tries to tell people that they're WRONG/BAD/EVIL/UNACCEPTABLE, the tendency is to push back. You want "unacceptable?" I'll give ya unacceptable!!!

The Republicans did that to us for eight years--we were WRONG/BAD/EVIL/UNACCEPTABLE....good thing we pushed back!!

I'm not suggesting for a second that smoking is good for people, and I do think people should be encouraged (not berated) to quit. I'm simply saying that this ad doesn't work for me at all. I'm thinking it won't work for a lot of smokers, too.
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:14 PM
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9. Well said, MADem
I am a smoker and that's precisely the reaction I have when non-smokers start preaching at me. You're exactly right when you say, "people should be encouraged (not berated) to quit." The militant anti-smokers could learn from you.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:39 PM
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10. No one likes being told they are "less than."
I'm sure a lot of these militant anti-smokers are a bit overweight. They wouldn't like to be singled out and called "worthless, fat pigs" who are using "more than their share" of resources because they carried a few extra pounds.

Nicotine is an addictive substance. People will quit, or go to an alternative delivery system (patch, pill or that new electric cigarette thing) if they can't quit, when the price gets high enough or it gets too inconvenient to smoke. But they'll do it when they've made up their own mind and fixed it in their own heads that it is a good idea for them to stop, not when people call them names or suggest that they are neanderthals who should be shunned.

American Indians used tobacco for centuries. They didn't smoke their peace pipes while they were out hunting or on the march, they saved it for special occasions. There are some people who can pick it up and put it down on a whim, like those who smoke the odd cigar once or twice a month.

It's a plant. I really don't think it's as evil as some people insist it is, but it's like anything else--too much ain't good for you. The tobacco industry went out of their way to encourage people to have too much, and to make it easy for them to have too much, too--like, say, twenty "doses" a day.

I'm betting some of these anti-smokers, if you went to take away their pot, or their beer, would have something to say about that....Oh, that's DIFFERENT! But it's not really different. Everyone's got a little monkey on their back--it's just that the monkeys of the OTHERS are always more annoying than one's own!
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