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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 04:39 PM
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C.I.A. Abused Missing Prisoner
 
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 06:30 PM
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1. Somehow, this report is very troubling.
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ThirdWorldJohn Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 07:53 PM
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2. He was mistakenly named in this memo released 04/16/09 Mistakenly named
http://www.propublica.org/article/newly-released-olc-memo-inadvertently-reveals-missing-detainee-0416

A newly released memo inadvertently reveals the name of a 'ghost detainee'
Among the OLC memos released today <1>, one appears to inadvertently reveal that a top al-Qaida suspect captured in northern Iraq in January 2004 was held by the CIA in a secret prison.

After Hassan Ghul was arrested in early 2004, President Bush told reporters <2>: "Just last week we made further progress in making America more secure when a fellow named Hassan Ghul was captured in Iraq. Hassan Ghul reported directly to Khalid Sheik Mohammad, who was the mastermind of the September 11 attacks. He was captured in Iraq, where he was helping al Qaeda to put pressure on our troops."

Military officials and former CIA director George Tenet described Ghul as an al-Qaida facilitator <3> who delivered money and messages to top leaders.

The U.S. government never publicly discussed Ghul again.

The 9/11 Commission report <4> said Ghul was in "U.S. custody." But the government itself never discussed Ghul’s whereabouts. And the CIA has never acknowledged holding Ghul.

Three years after his capture, human rights groups <5> were surprised when Ghul was not included among 14 high-value detainees who were transferred out of the CIA’s black sites program and sent to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2007.

Since then, he has been considered a missing, or ghost detainee <6>. But in the heavily redacted OLC memo <7> dated May 30, 2005, government censors appeared to have missed a single reference to his name and confinement during a lengthy description of the interrogation techniques used against him. The reference can be found at the bottom of Page 7 in the memo <7>, where Ghul’s surname is spelled "Gul."

According to the memo, Ghul was one of 28 CIA detainees at the time who had been subjected to the agency’s "enhanced interrogation techniques." Specifically, the memo says he was subjected to "facial hold," "facial slap," "stress positions," "sleep deprivation," a technique called "walling," in which a detainee’s shoulders are repeatedly smashed against a wall, and the "attention grasp <8>," in which the detainee is placed in a choke-hold and slapped.

So it appears we now have evidence Ghul was in a CIA prison. Where he is today is still a mystery.

We’ve called the CIA, and they declined to comment.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:30 PM
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3. We’ve called the CIA, and they declined to comment.
:think:
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ThirdWorldJohn Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 10:11 PM
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4. The memo is on the site or a pic of it - I wrote it out for you here
Edited on Fri Apr-24-09 10:40 PM by ThirdWorldJohn
http://www.propublica.org/article/newly-released-olc-memo-inadvertently-reveals-missing-detainee-0416

The memo is on this site as a jpeg I guess because I cnnot copy and paste it. It reads:

For example, after medical and psychological examinations found no contradictions {blacked}'s interrogation team sought and obtained approval to use the following techniques: attention grasp, walling, facial hold, facial slap, wall standing, stress positions, and sleep deprivation. See August25{Blacked}Letter at 2. The interogation team "carefully analyzed GUL's responsiveness to different areas of inquiry" during this time and noted that his resistance(e) increased as questioning moved to his "knowledge of operational terrorist activities." Id at3.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 01:09 PM
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5. This poor man is probably dead!
A victim of "enhanced interrogation/torture". I am disturbed by the lack of recs on this thread and the lack of concern for this man's whereabouts.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-25-09 07:57 PM
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6. and we will probably never know
quite disturbing..
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