Coachella 2009 - Naked Wizard Tased And Beaten - FULL VIDEO

[Joanne98]

Run time: 06:06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpnSxEgrLrA   Posted on YouTube: April 25, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: April 26, 2009 By DU Member: Joanne98 Views on DU: 3360

 

This is the newest taser video. And you can't talk about torture without talking about cops.

All they had to do was cuff the guys hands in FRONT of his body and they wouldn't have had to go through all this. If it's a regulation that they have to cuff the hands behind it's a stupid rule and they should get rid of it.

[GCP]

1. Bastards

What harm was the guy doing? I remember streakers in the 70s, they were never treated like this.

[AlbertCat]

3. I love naked hippies!

And this is obviously England, where Bobbies don't even carry guns....do they? They didn't then.

[tomm2thumbs]

14. our officers don't have those hats - that is the problem

[TLM]

30. Notice how that streaker isn't resisting arrest?

He's been nicked and he's walking peacefully with the bobbies.

See those batons on their belts? If he fought them, at all... one little bit, they'd knock the shit out of him, and those 4 bobbies would be carrying him off the field.

The tit-heads do not fuck around.

If the guy in the video had walked with the cops, peacefully as the guy in the picture is doing, there would have been no tazing.

He got tazed because he fought, tried to run, and grabbed at the cop's belt.

[Reform]

2. there was enough officers there

to lead this man to a police car, to tase him and for that and for one officer to drop his knee down on this mans chest the way he did is completely un called for.
It kinda reminds me of the man who died in that Canadaian airport, there was about 5 or six officers, but they felt the need to tase the man who eventually died, police have no freakin guts no more.
They are enforcers not peace officers.

[AlbertCat]

4. I can't watch anymore.

The cops are causing more trouble than anyone else.
3 fat ass cops cannot subdue one naked stoner without using a weapon?????

[mr_hat]

5. What about the onlookers?

Just part of the entertainment to them - no thought at all about making those pigs back off.

[OU812MonkeyBoy]

6. I am a Progressive ...BUT...

He was resisting...plain & simple. Sorry if you think it was extreme. I showed the video to my dad, a retired Illinois State Trooper, and he said before tasers, in the old days, he would've been hit with a sap, nightstick or collapsable baton.

They were trying to talk him in to putting the robe on. Even the onlookers were telling him to put it back on. Hell, he likely would've been cited and released.

He refused.

The reason they started to cuff him was the fact he grabbed the shirt of the officer on the/his right. Then, as they were going to place his hands behind him to cuff him, he immediately started to tense up, that's a sign of resistance. After they would've cuffed him, they would've plced his robe on him again and lead him away. But, he physically started to tense up on them and try to pull away.

Then the decision was made to take him to the ground, the officer on his left tried to do a side leg-sweep take down. The guy resisted by stepping back. The officer on the right kicked him in the shin, he went over. The third cop started to push him downward by the head. The "wizard" started to fall to the right, causing the officer on his left to go with him and that is what caused the officer to land on his neck. That's incidental.

The knee to the stomach was to force him in to the fetal position in order to roll him on to his stomach. It's actually no more violent than a side leg sweep, like was attempted when they went to take him down. It's designed to knock the wind out the person.

After unsuccessful attempts at getting him on to his stomach, he started to scramble away. At that point, the taser was used to force compliance.

He was only tased once with the electrodes in his body. The reason I know this? He was still talking. When you're getting tased, there is no talking, just wierd grumbles, grunts and, sometimes, screams. He was talking about how beautiful things were. Then he pulled the taser cords and detatched them from the gun.

So, the officer commenced direct contact tasering. He kept resisting, so the officer kept tasing. It's the old theory of every action having an equal an opposite reaction. The idea of the taser is to render a person unable to resist or hurt the officer or other people. And trying to subdue/arrest a totally naked person is one of the toughest things to do. Other than hair, there's nothing to grab to take a person down. And bare skin is extremely slippery.

JUST TO BE CLEAR...I have been on both sides of a taser. Usually one or two zaps is enough of a wake up call. This guy is obviously dumber than a post. I've had training in these situations. The police exercised incredible restraint.

They gave him ample time to comply. He refused. He lost.

Or as Clint Eastwood said in Heartbreak Ridge:
"It's a matter of wills. Your will against my will; and you WILL lose.

[sasquuatch55]

7. They love their tasers, torturous pigs. Who's protecting us from them?

nt

[uberblonde]

8. Sign of resistance?

Isn't "tensing up" an involuntary physical response?

And let's not ignore that fact that they were tasing the guy near his heart - which is the main risk factor in Taser deaths.

Call it what you will, but with over 400 people dead from Taser attacks, I think inflicting possible death on someone for public nudity is, oh, I don't know, a tad excessive!

I would rather they used the nightstick.

[izquierdista]

9. will, swill

Your post is a large stinking pile of BULLSHIT. That you reference the old days as described by a retired state trooper shows only that the bullshit has gone on for far too long and it still stinks. But once you decide that submitting to authority is more important than human rights, there is no way not to stink of the ensuing torrent of BULLSHIT. And no, you are not a progressive if you can deny someone their basic rights as a human being.

[OU812MonkeyBoy]

16. I don't expect you to understand

Especially if you stopped reading after my subject line. And if I'm not a progressive. You're everything you despise. You have NO ROOM for reasoning or explanation. It's far easier to just judge a book by it's cover, rather than rationally look at the situation. Hardly a progressive mindset. Like you stated, you had already made up your mind, before getting beyond the subject line. That makes you an infantile, judgmental asshole. Not a progressive.

Say what you want about me. I've got thick skin.

You don't know me, so I'll give you a brief background. I've been in the USMC, I just wasn't ready to go to college. I was an MP there, I got out, went to school for Broadcast Communications, became a radio DJ. Missed being in law enforcement, so I became a a reserve deputy. That means I VOLUNTEERED MY TIME to help my local sheriff's department. While on duty New Years Eve of 2000 my partner and I were broadsided/t-boned by a drunk and my right leg was so badly broken, I had to quit after 3 years on.

I've always been a Democrat. Was a local delegate for the county Dem party. There's only two Republicans in my family. My dad and my brother. And my brother voted for Obama, because he's tired of being deployed for a war that was, in his words, "the most misguided, irrationally thought out, abject failure of modern history."

With all that said, these officers weren't denying his rights...in any way, shape, form or fashion. You have no right to be nude in public. Let's also keep in mind, we don't know what precipitated them even coming over to the guy. Someone could've complained and they responded to check it out.

They tried to get him to put his robe back on. He wouldn't. They were more than patient. When he grabbed the cop's shirt, on his right, that is considered assault. If you and I are facing off to fight. I grab your shirt, you have the right to then get me off of you. Once he grabbed the shirt, they were going to arrest him.

They asked him to put his hands behind his back, he kept refusing, they went to place his hands behind his back and he started to tense up, and try to pull away. Then "the game" was on.

If he would've put his robe on immediately, they likely would've left him alone. When he wouldn't, if he'd have let them cuff him and lead him away, he'd likely gotten a ticket and released. He wanted to fight. He lost. The cops weren't being fascist pigs. They were doing a job, NONE of you have likely ever done. I HAVE...FOR FREE.

As for using the Clint Eastwood quote, I've always liked the quote. For fuck's sake, I was 13 when I first saw the movie. And I enjoy his movies and care less about his political affiliations. I'm not shallow enough to let who he supports, blind me to the fact he produces some of the best movies Hollywood has to offer.

[izquierdista]

18. For free

Only because it satisfies a primal urge you have to assert dominance over lower ranking members of the species. I have run into far too many assholes of this type who have regular jobs but LOVE to play Gestapo volunteer to help law enforcement. They love the military discipline of giving orders and expecting them to be followed and beating the shit out of those who don't comply.

Since you expounded at length, let me respond by saying that progress and "enforcement" are close to mutually exclusive. Enforcement means beating on a uniquely shaped peg until it fits into a standard size round hole. Laws do not require "enforcement"; they require reinforcing the social contract between the individual and society. The nudist troublemaker shouldn't get the fight is he looking for; rather than having enforcers called out to beat on him, some type of social worker who is not a Miranda reciting thug needs to dial DOWN the confrontation and get the individual back to socially acceptable behavior.

That's something that really isn't understood much by people steeped in the methods of law enforcement -- socially acceptable behavior. They are quick to label a particular behavior as socially unacceptable and start the beatings, but as to actually doing something positive to reinforce socially acceptable behaviors, they are as equipped to do that as a fish is to ride a bicycle.

[OU812MonkeyBoy]

26. I don't know why I'm trying...

...but I'm going to give it one last shot.

The reason I volunteered WASN'T because I had...wait, I want to get the exact wording: Only because it satisfies a primal urge you have to assert dominance over lower ranking members of the species. I have run into far too many assholes of this type who have regular jobs but LOVE to play Gestapo volunteer to help law enforcement.

Nope, exactly the opposite. It was because I felt I had a higher purpose in my life. Some people become doctors, nurses or pastors. Through out my life, police work was always in my family. It's what I felt I needed to do to help my community. To be able to be there when someone needed help. How did President Obama say it? I'm para-phrasing a bit, but, to do something bigger than myself. This was nearly 6 years before Obama's DNC speech. Even then, I had a deep seeded desire to work in law enforcement. Just not full time.

Never once did I "beat the living shit out of those that didn't comply." Even as a reserve, we get all the training full time officers get, just not in the 26-40 week full-time block full time officers get it in an academy. Ours is spread out over a year time frame. Because of my military training, I was able to fore go most of the classroom work and do the practical work. It took me 12 weeks of training. That included firearms, self-defense and use of force in a civilian environment.

These guys did everything by the book. They were MORE than patient. They were NOT called out to beat on him. They tried to get him to get his robe on. He wouldn't. In 95% of all confrontations, the perp sets the course of how the arrest, or a particular situation will go. This douche-nozzle wanted to resist, balk and struggle. He set the tone. He lost the game.

The police are not here to pat you on the head and tell you that your a good boy for staying on the right side of the law. The fact you're not in jail, free to come and go as you please, eat what you want, VOTE, etc. is your "attaboy." The police are charged with dealing with everything from parking tickets to the most god-awful stuff you've ever seen. Stuff that would make a billy-goat puke.

Then to top it off, they get their work critiqued by those that think they know what "could've been done." Arm-chair lawyers/cops/activists. Or those that "think" they know MORE about civil rights and what illegal or not.

If people acted like evolved, civilized, human beings; instead of retarded jack-asses, situations like this one can be avoided altogether.

[Cowpunk]

35. Nice cop-out

So in your world, once it's clear a suspect does not intend to comply, anything and everything that follows is his fault? Not to agree with Mr. Che here, but that's some scary, twisted logic. Sure, if only everyone would just follow the law, police brutality wouldn't exist. So what? Point not taken.

He was naked, for fuck's sake. Noncompliant, yes. Threatening? No. Tasers can kill, friend. I'm guessing they didn't ask Mr. Wizard if he had a heart condition before they zapped him. Could you sleep at night knowing you killed a man for being naked and high at a hippy festival?

[axollot]

43. That's the thing about assult people do not get...

...all one has to do is TOUCH the other person and you're done. Touch a cop, pull the cops shirt - gone. I was truly expecting something terribly violent here and thought the message was lost when this guy resisted and he did resist. If he'd gotten dressed, even after having his 'say' he wouldn't have been tased.

Now do I think that the taser is abused? Yep. And I've seen video of that, this wasn't one of those times and it takes the wind out of the message.

yeah, I know he was only naked. *sigh*

Cheers
Sandy

[trthnd4jstc]

11. We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. No Way! Comply to fascism. No!

[liberation]

12. LOL. I stopped reading after the obvious "I am a Progressive... but..."

It is the new "I am not a racist... but those damn "

[Democracyinkind]

38. "I am a progressive but I'm for beating the shit out of anyone practicing civil disobedience "

[jb5150]

13. I agree

He was given plenty of opportunity to put his clothes back on, and he refused.

[Raineyb]

22. Exactly what was the threat he posed by not getting dressed again?

What exactly was so threatening about this naked man that they had to taze him? Because not obeying orders, last I checked did not warrant a beating.

Thanks for helping continue the fascistic tendencies of our "law enforcement" officers. :sarcasm:

Regards

[TLM]

24. The threat....?? He's flasher....

If he was in a mall or a school or a park would you say he posed no threat?

Are you actually arguing it is ok for a dude to run up and wave his cock at people in a public event?

[Raineyb]

25. I'm saying that it doesn't warrant getting fucking tazed for it

Frankly the violence is a hell of a lot more disturbing than some dude's dick.

Are you actually arguing that being electrocuted is appropriate for this small an offense?

[TLM]

29. He didn't get tazed for being naked....

He got tazed because he got physical and aggressive with the cops.

They didn't just run up and taze him. They gave him numerous opportunities to avoid arrest, and he refused. Openly and vocally refused, and when told he'd be arrested, proclaimed he didn't care. So they go to cuff him and he fights... at one point he grabs at one cop's belt.

THAT is what he got tazed for. Had he put his clothes back on, he could have walked. Had he gone peacefully, he'd have probably gotten a ticket and walked. But he made the decision to get into a physical confrontation with the police. And he was very appropriately subdued in a way that didn't hurt anybody else in the crowd.


"Are you actually arguing that being electrocuted is appropriate for this small an offense?"

No I'm arguing rationally that he was arrested for a valid reason, tazed for a valid reason, and because he was tazed and not popped with a baton or maced... he was probably fine in an hour or so.

And calling a taser "electrocution" is like calling pepper spray a "biological weapon."

[Raineyb]

33. He was kneed in the stomach when he was already on the ground

And you're surprised that he got up and ran off? The initial reason he was approached was because he was naked. Being naked is not the worse offense that one can commit and to escalate it to this was unnecessary.

Tasers use electricity calling it electrocution is completely appropriate considering the number of people killed by this "non lethal" weapon.

[Democracyinkind]

40. He didn't wave his cock, and he wasn't in a mall. Go figure. We're discussing the guy in the video.

[jb5150]

28. I watched the video from start to finish

Public nudity, resisting arrest, and maybe assault on a police officer if you count the way he was smacking the cop's shoulder.

Could the police have handled it differently...........................maybe

Could the naked (drunk or drugged-up) guy have put his clothes back on...Yep

[midnight]

15. Clint Eastwood supported John McCain. Your quote of this

republican mindset tells me all I need to know about your progess. You may want to think about this quote: "Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. It is a force, like fire a dangerous servant and a terrible master."
- George Washington

[Democracyinkind]

37. And then one could ask who produced "Heartbreak Ridge" in the first place.

Anyone quoting a mockingbird-type movie is totally discredited. I mean come on, a movie glorifying Grenada? You must be kidding me.

[Truth2Tell]

44. No. You are NOT a progressive.

Sorry to break it to you.

[TLM]

31. Sure they can....

They could easily use submission and pain holds to achieve compliance.

However many of them can cause serious injury and nerve damage.

They could use batons, which can also cause serious and permanent injury.

Or they could hit him with a tazer, and he'll be fine in 15 minutes to an hour, 99% of the time.



Because he was tazed, he will be fine, the officers will be fine... and all the people around won't have to deal with pepper spray on the breeze. These cops did their job, and did it exactly like they were supposed to.


And I hope they threw his naked ass into a detention cell like that... let him share his beautiful wondrous nudity with the boys on cell block B.

[Hulk]

10. PIGS in action!

I have a great deal of respect for the police, but these thugs are nothing but PIGS. Disgusting, and I hope they get their badges pulled for this. They give all police a bad name.

[2BNMDLTR]

17. Not brutality

I'm rarely ever sympathetic to the police in these types of situations but this guy was so out of line. He was given every opportunity to correct the situation. The police did what they had to to get a potentially dangerous person away from the public. It's all cool to run around naked and everything but you just can't do it at Coachella. What were the police supposed to do? How would you have taken care of the situation. I don't see that they had any choice. I think I even heard a cop say "you can still have fun" if you put your clothes back on. Sounds like they would have let him go if he'd been at all cooperative.

[sasquuatch55]

19. potentially dangerous? I didn't see that.

nt

[GOPBasher]

20. Those cops did nothing wrong. Sorry.

This asshole was sitting there, CONTINUING to commit the crime, in front of what looked like thousands of people (perhaps some kids, not sure), and he was RESISTING arrest. The cops tried to reason with him for minutes before they finally had to use a little force. What the hell did they do wrong?

[Cowpunk]

34. They tortured him for no good reason. It's that simple.

Three big cops couldn't have this stoned hippy on the ground in handcuffs within 5 seconds? Please. Give me a fucking break. Yes, they were patient. Yes, they made plenty of attempts to reason with the guy. He refused, so fucking arrest him already. The torture-fest was completely uncalled for. People die all the fucking time from getting tased. how would these guys have explained ending a man's life for being naked? Taser abuse is becomming an epidemic in this country. Peace officers need to get the message-tasers CAN kill, and should only be used as a nonlethal weapon of last resort, and not used for torturing people into compliance.

[RollWithIt]

21. Clearly his manhood represented a very very very very very very small threat......

Tiny.

[TLM]

23. Wow rare for me to defend cops...but these guys did fine...

I see nothing wrong with this

They were very nice and gave the guy tons of chances to put his clothes back on... then when he was resisting they warned him over and over he was going to be tased, and he kept saying "I don't care." They didn't get serious with him until he grabbed at that one cop's belt. Then he tried to run... the dumb ass is lucky he didn't get worse. Normally they'd go to pepper spray...but that hits people around and ruins everybody's time.

Listen you can believe that your dick swinging free is beautiful and natural and wonderful... but this is a public event, not your home and not a nude beach. I'm not buying a ticket for a concert to see your cock. I have been at these shows and there is always some attention craving asshole who wants to swing his junk. If that shit took place at a mall, the dude would be locked up and put on a sex offenders list...but because it is a concert somehow the dude imposing his dick on the crowd is supposed to be ok?

No, f-that. Go to a nude friendly event, there are several. Don;t go to a non-nude friendly event then complain when you get arrested.

And they don't cuff a guy in the front because you're still able to fight, and run when cuffed in the front.

[SKKY]

27. How many times do they have to ask him to put on his clothes?

He was clearly breaking the law, and it looks to me like he might have even been trying to incite them into doing something. I don't often defend cops, but these guys did fine.

[sasquuatch55]

32. Mans inhumanity to man.

nt

[Cowpunk]

36. Let's Play A Game

Plug one commenter's words into a slightly different context and let's see how they sound:

"With all that said, these officers weren't denying her rights...in any way, shape, form or fashion. She has no right to use a whites only bathroom. Let's also keep in mind, we don't know what precipitated them even coming over to the her. Someone could've complained and they responded to check it out.

"They tried to get her to come out. She wouldn't. They were more than patient. When she grabbed the cop's shirt, on his right, that is considered assault. If you and I are facing off to fight. I grab your shirt, you have the right to then get me off of you. Once she grabbed the shirt, they were going to arrest her.

"They asked her to put her hands behind her back, she kept refusing, they went to place her hands behind her back and she started to tense up, and try to pull away. Then "the game" was on.

"If she would've come out of that bathroom immediately, they likely would've left her alone. When she wouldn't, if she'd have let them cuff her and lead her away, she'd likely gotten a ticket and released. She wanted to fight. She lost. The cops weren't being fascist pigs. They were doing a job, NONE of you have likely ever done.

"These guys did everything by the book. They were MORE than patient. They were NOT called out to beat on her. They tried to get her to come out. She wouldn't. In 95% of all confrontations, the perp sets the course of how the arrest, or a particular situation will go. This black bitch wanted to resist, balk and struggle. She set the tone. She lost the game.

"If these negroes acted like evolved, civilized, human beings; instead of retarded jack-asses, situations like this one can be avoided altogether."


To some it may seem like a big stretch comparing nude wizard guy to a civil rights protester. But is it? This looked to me an awful lot like an act of nonviolent civil disobedience. This guy clearly believed he had a right to exist as God or whoever made him-in the buff, and would not be intimidated into disavowing his belief. Said belief may have been due to a temporary pharmaceutical condition, but who's to say? The argument is still a valid one.

Not trying to say anyone here is a racist. The point is this: The justification people use to defend the actions of these cops is no different than the one used by racists to brutalize nonviolent protesters who were just standing up for their rights. It was phony and ugly then, and it's just as phony and ugly now. This was police brutality-this man posed no threat of violence to himself or anyone around him, and they tried again and again and again to torture him into compliance, to force him to cry uncle when all they really had to do was sit on him and slap on the cuffs. If these officers were acting "by the book", then the book needs to be rewritten.

[Democracyinkind]

39. Thanks for that. nonviolent civil disobedience is exactly what it was.

But we can't have that now, right?

Where is Mrs. Lovejoy " Can't anyone think about the kids for once "

DIdn't seem like the kind of setting where people called the cops to restrain a naked man. It rather seemed like they had nothing else to do. Damn those hippies. They're just to peaceful.

[Robb]

41. Civil disobedience?

So you think he was naked to protest laws against nakedness? Really?

[Democracyinkind]

42. It's a bit of a stretch, you're right.

But I don't think he was harming someone and I don't think this is something that the people couldn't have managed. If I would have been there, say with a kid, and I would have wanted to protect her from his nakedness I think I wouldn't have called the cops. In fact, I think nobody called the cops and that's why they shouldn't have intervened. If so, ok.

I don't know I just find this slightly fascistic. I don't suppose he would have stayed there any longer if everyone was deeply offended by his nakedness and would have told him. I just don't see where the cops have any business in this. Sure there is a law against indecent exposure or whatever but that doesn't mean you gotta jail everyone who strips down.
I like to see these things in context. I must admit that I don't have too much context here; so assuming my estimate of the situation is correct I would categorize resisting an unnecessary arrest pretty much as civil disobedience . Being naked: No. We agree there.

There's a lot of shit that goes on just when cops show up. And I find that regrettable whenever that happens in a situation that the people could have dealt with alone, without any problems. There's a law against indecent exposure and smoking weed where I am currently living. Every year I go to an open air event where I smoke weed and spend part of my time there naked. There's kids there, families, seniors - but no cops. So far nothing has happened, and those 1, or 2 times that my behaviour was considered improper for a location shared with families/others I was told in a friendly way and minded what they said. It worked perfectly.

Again, I don't have the context. Don't know if that was a family thing or just some open air. Whatever, I don't see why the cops were needed in this at all.

[Cowpunk]

45. It Became A Protest.

His refusal to comply was an act of defiance, not against the police(I saw no ill will in this man toward the cops)but against a law that I believe he saw, at least at this time, as unnecessary and wrong. I'm not saying he was right in his thinking toward this particular law, but refusing to comply with what one sees as an unjust law in the face of arrest and torture is indeed a form of protest, and a brave one at that.