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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:40 AM Original message |
Pastor gets tazered |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. He's pissed because he doesn't think his caucasian looks make him suspicious. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It's ironic that you said "pissed...." |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Real men sit down and keep the room nice and clean! |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Why does this make you think they have a case? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. His sermon is STRANGE and so is he. Like I said, I would like to see the tape of the arrest. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. TAZE HIM, kick his ass, and search his car. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I'll wait for the judge. See--no rushing to judgment here! |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
124. There was nothing in his system or car. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Show me where he got a blood test or a urinalysis. You can't. FAIL. NT |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Show me where he was charged with ANYTHING related to the above. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #126 |
127. I never said that he was "charged with anything related to the above." FAIL. nt |
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Seldona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Then what is your point? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Straw man. The police had a reason for arresting the guy. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Amen...nt |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
91. ... |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You sound like a customs agent! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I am not one of those. Not by a long shot. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Okay, but where in the Constitution does it say I have to be nice to Authority? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Where does it say "authority" has to be nice to us, either? It's simple civility. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
60. It doesn't but they "The Police, etc" should remember this! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I encourage you to reread this whole thread. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Thanks for the suggestions...I did re-read this thread...but |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Oh, bullshit. Utter bullshit. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 04:14 AM Response to Reply #83 |
92. You've absolutely missed my point...is this intentional to start a fight? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #92 |
104. He's not "defending the Constitution." He has a duty to follow the |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 05:21 AM Response to Reply #83 |
97. You've bought into the spin when you say... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #97 |
103. More utter bullshit. This guy is not a shrinking violet. |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I agree it would be interesting to have tape |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I'll bet there is tape. Most law enforcement vehicles have that set up now. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. So the fact that there was nothing found does not bother you in the least |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Do you know that for a certainty? Maybe he swallowed his meth while he was |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. My contention here is not that I am in favor of this koinky doink |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I think there's a slight possibility that the police description of this guy |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Your response here is disgusting |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Gee, your response is disgusting, too--disgustingly LAZY in the logic department. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Gotta respect your willingness to think clearly here! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. His sermon IS flaky, that's why I characterized it as such. I've been in |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. The only thing you have got right in your twisted logic |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. He is a racist and a hatemonger. He uses incendiary and vile, violent language. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Where did he prove he was a racist? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. In his VIDEOS. Click on them, instead of proudly saying you didn't bother. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I repeat...I could care less what he personal religious beliefs are! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. You wanted to know where he was a racist. I told you. Then you accused me of lying about it. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 04:26 AM Response to Reply #80 |
93. Your motives are clear you hate! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #93 |
105. You clearly haven't read the rules. There is no "rule" against going OT, and FWIW |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #105 |
113. "Tootsie!" Insult someone else please! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. It's what he SAID he experienced. That doesn't make it true...tootsie. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Stop INSULTING ME WITH "TOOSTIE"... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Ahh, changing your words, are ya? You said what you said. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. God Bless Ya! I have no need to change anything...least of all my mind! |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 05:11 AM Response to Reply #80 |
96. I suggested being free is being racist? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #96 |
106. There's a difference between hate speech and free speech. |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. I'll take the Pastor's word |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I'll take the judge's word. But knock yourself out! |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. And yet you are ready to convict HIM because of unrelated beliefs |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. I "convict" him of being flaky, but like I have said, I WILL wait for the judge. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
61. You are really this upset? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I was talking about YOU. You convict the cops before the trial. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. I never convicted the Police...not once...I did point out that |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Our country is not a police state. That's your opinion. You want to try living in a police state |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 04:59 AM Response to Reply #82 |
95. We do live in a Police State...there are posts here that go years back! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #95 |
108. No, we do not live in a police state. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #108 |
115. Yes we do! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. It's link, not book. And go to google and find the US CONSTITUTION. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Insulting me AGAIN! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. You insult yourself every time you post. Have a nice POLICE STATE day, now! nt |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
47. I need to add to my remarks. |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. I have worked in the Criminal Justice Arena... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. If there was a car with a camera behind the pissing pastor's vehicle, that may have |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Deleted message |
bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. This is so disgusting! Just when you thought you were free again! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
37. Maybe he treated the cops like he treated this guy...... |
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
79. I agree MADem |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. I must add this...they are not Police...they are Custom "Agents" |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
45. One of the few sane comments here. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. First, you're calling DUers INSANE when you make comments like that. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. another crappy analysis of a post to put in your scarecrow garden. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. No, you're being rude and you know it. You're being rude because it's the only way you know how to |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. I'm calling DUers INSANE when I point out a fact of law... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
87. If you bothered to read this thread--and you didn't--you would appreciate that your "fact" is shit |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 04:36 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. You should educate yourself and re-read my posts...you've lost it! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #94 |
109. You're making that shit up. You are also factually incorrect in other assertions. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. The state police made the arrest. He apparently didn't listen to them, either. nt |
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trthnd4jstc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. We live in a Fascist Country. End the Tyranny! Make the Police, Border Patrol, and Customs abide |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. If This Incident Gets The Right Outraged At The Loss Of Rights Due To The Patriot Act |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. The Patriot Act AND Homeland Security that was THEIR idea. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. That's The Point Exactly, They Have Become Victims Of Their Own Policies |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Mostly they only get worked up if a Democratic president's in office. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Can't Have It Both Ways - A Lesson The Right Needs To Learn |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
14. Finally, a Christian who "gets it." Christianity and torture are incompatible. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. You think that guy gets it? You obviously haven't looked at his "shit" on YOUTUBE. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
89. Maybe a Christian who "gets it" is a Christian who has been tasered for no good reason. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #89 |
110. Well, this guy is more worried about Jesus wearing pants than "salvation." |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. he should join Westboro Baptist Church - they are full of lawyers - they can be friends |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. The God Hates Fags club? They're on the same page as this flake, philosophically. NT |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
17. Anyone stopped by the police |
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suzanner (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. MADem, u r so wrong |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. No I am not wrong. You tell me how he could even SEE what the dog did |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
34. The guy was stupid... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. They asked him to exit his vehicle. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. MAdam you are sosooooo wrong and so smug about being wrong. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No, it wasn't. You're being hyperbolic. You are also assuming a great deal. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Hmmmm just let me think ont.......there are many documented cases |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. What a stupid argument. Some few do it, therefore ALL must do it. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Only in Georg Orwells books does "many" eqate to "a few". nt |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. When you have a population of a billion, thousands are a "few." |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Your exaggerations are well suited to your arguments. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
88. You're not too bright, are you? My point is that a fraction can be a large number, |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Frankly my dear I have not been busy putting my head around any of your |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #90 |
102. No, there aren't. You're taking the side of a guy who is making |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. WP |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #55 |
100. I'm sure some smug jackass will say the same thing about you... |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
99. Your posts here disgust me |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #99 |
111. What "victim?" See, you're doing it. You don't know that he was a |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
53. He's 8 months too late |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. He was probably ATTENDING it. He's a wingnut who hates Jews and Obama. NT |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. here's one short clip he has where he is being questioned (from what it looks like) |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. That guy was LAUGHING when he said that, like he was humoring a nutcase |
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Klimmer777 (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
66. The Border Patrol agents and Arizona police officers are wrong . . . |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
86. This man is not a Christian--unless you reallly think that his racist, crazy |
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edc (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
77. Power |
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Darkhawk32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
81. I'M SURE HE HELPED CREATE THE CONDITIONS THAT LED TO THIS. |
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trthnd4jstc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. What like insisting that his constitutional rights not be abridged? End The Tyranny of Fascism! |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
98. The guy is a victim of the Totalitarian state... |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #98 |
107. I've tried to defend the American Citizen and our Constitution but... |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
101. I drove to Calif from VA via the southern route and was stopped somewhere |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #101 |
112. I got stopped going into CA (with CA oranges bought in UTAH) |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #112 |
122. they did not really search our car either...more of a casual peek..it may have |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. They might have thought you had a few houseplants in there--as people |
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