Ed Show: Rep. Nadler - It's Our Duty to Investigate Torture

[Hissyspit]

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MSNBC The Ed Show w/ ED SHULTZ - May 4, 2009.

[L. Coyote]

1. Duty under the law to investigate Torture! HUGE D'oh!

And DoJ's duty to prosecute! Another HUGE D'oh!

[sattahipdeep]

2. They executed the Nazis who did the same things.

What If?

"Justice is not done yet," Asst. U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald told jurors. "Each of you will be convinced in the end that the only just punishment that does justice for the victims is the death penalty."



Soon, the reverse-engineered sere tactics that had been designed by Mitchell and Jessen, road-tested in the C.I.A.'s black sites, and adopted in Guantánamo were being used in Iraq as well. One intelligence officer recalled witnessing a live demonstration of the tactics. The detainee was on his knees in a room painted black and forced to hold an iron bar in his extended hands while interrogators slapped him repeatedly. The man was then taken into a bunker, where he was stripped naked, blindfolded, and shackled. He was ordered to be left that way for 12 hours.

At the Abu Ghraib prison, military policemen on the night shift adopted the tactics to hideous effect. In what amounted to a down-market parody of the praise heaped on Mitchell and Jessen, Specialist Charles A. Graner Jr., a former prison guard from Pennsylvania, received a commendation for his work "softening up" detainees, according to the documentary The Ghosts of Abu Ghraib. He appears repeatedly in photographs, smiling and giving thumbs-up before human pyramids of naked detainees. In 2005, he was convicted on charges of abuse. In their statement, Mitchell and Jessen said that they were "appalled by reports" of alleged abuses at Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo and had not been involved with them in any way.

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/07/torture200707

[Enthusiast]

10. And that is the point, fascists torture.

I don't buy this *trying to protect the country* business. I believe the Bush Administration's first instinct was to torture. Why? Because The Bush Administration was made up of people of bad character, bad in many ways. Fascist cowards are by nature cruel. That administration was full of chickenhawk cowards ready to hurt others in many ways and for no good fucking reason. George W Bush was/is NOT a *good guy*, and the others are worse.

[onlyadream]

12. AMEN to that! nt

[slipslidingaway]

3. knr nt

[bjobotts]

4. Bullshit. They broke the laws not to keep us safe but to justify Bush war .

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5. Even FBI states we got all the info before we started torturing. Bush looked to OLC

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6. to give him cover and then told CIA get me a connection between Sadam and 9/11

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7. Waterboarded 86 times in one month and got nothing.Pure torture.Not policy differences

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8. They knew it was against the law and did it anyway.We want prosecutions for those who brought us sh

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9. Mentioning Pakistan was just more fear mongering from an idiot.Bush increased terrorists

[stlsaxman]

11. Nadler: "It is not up to the White House. It would be an abuse of power for the WH to decide..."

and he is spot on!

[Enthusiast]

13. +, Go Nadler!

Hell, I don't want to put the country through this, either. I would much rather the Bush Administration had not done this stuff. But if we are going to impeach a president over consensual sex we must investigate torture.