SEIU video: Dean gets very angry about health care story.

[madfloridian]

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From the You Tube link:

Howard Dean answered questions and spoke to a crowd of 200 at a health care townhall in Wilmington, Delaware on May 29th, 2009. A breast cancer survivor spoke of how she was forced to divorce her husband to receive medical treatment.

From the SEIU website

Dean's reaction is something many of us feel - a kind of patriotic outrage. "There is not one other industrialized democracy on the face of this earth that somebody with that story would have--not one other country, not one! How could America be like this? This is America for God sakes. Doesn't this make you angry?" He continues, "This is a disgrace, and that is why we need real health insurance reform."

[Triana]

1. Good for Dr. Dean. People like HIM are the ones who need to be desiging health care reform - NOT

goddamed Max Baucus!

[graywarrior]

2. He sounds like I feel.

I have to wait three months once I move to MA to get health coverage so I can have surgery.

[imdjh]

3. I wonder if that women didn't just put a target on her back.

Divorcing your spouse and other steps to make yourself legally poor and judgement-proof is a tricky business. There are lawyers that specialize in it. Some people view it as fraud, especially I should think if you are on video essentially confessing to have divorced while still living as husband and wife and holding out to the community as such.

As Dean said, people shouldn't have to do this kind of stuff to get healthcare.

[aejlaw]

27. Its done all the time here in Michigan and the Courts approve

the divorce settlements and the sick spouse becomes eligible for Medicaid. Quite often the social workers will even guide the parties in this direction. The lady in this video did nothing illegal at least not in Michigan. It is outrageous when couples who view their marriage vows as sacred have to go through divorce in order to get medical care. I can understand Dean's anger.

[Downwinder]

40. Been there, done that.

[CrispyQ]

43. But gays getting married is more of a threat to hetero-marriage.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[peace frog]

4. I love Howard Dean

That is all. Carry on.

[PassingFair]

18. He has the ability to make me believe that I can make a difference....

he's the only politician that
seems to have no ulterior motives.

[howmad1]

48. So maybe we should get rid of the phony who's sitting in the WH....

....and get Dean to run again in 2012.

[PassingFair]

50. I wouldn't call Obama a "phony"....

it's just that he's no Howard Dean!

[midnight]

5. This story does make me angry. The public option that

I hope is going to be an option for America will not be based on income.

[ihavenobias]

6. K & R n/t

[Faryn Balyncd]

7. K&R

[jkshaw]

8. Dr. Dean --

O8)

[Juche]

9. We are an embarassment

It is hard not to be embarassed by our country sometimes. The fact that the wealthy, industrial class managed to prey on our racial and social bigotries to get us to vote for politicians who support this system is so shameful.

I want to be proud of my country, not this.

[RufusTFirefly]

10. Deans seems angry and unstable. Can't be trusted

:sarcasm:

It just amazes and appalls me how easy it is to shut down anyone who runs up against the corporate-sponsored status quo.

Anyone who shows real, understandable passion like Dr. Dean is dismissed as being too angry.

Anyone who calmly puts forth a well-reasoned program is dismissed as a boring policy wonk.

The method the two approaches share is that they target the messenger, not the message.

Of course, normally neither method is necessary. The first and most effective technique is simply to ignore those views that question the status quo. And when you control the mass media by and large that's pretty easy.

[democracy1st]

14. dayum shame isn't it

[Enthusiast]

34. That's why Republicans campaigned for Kerry

in Iowa. Dean was a dangerous loose cannon on the scene, they feared him.

[RaleighNCDUer]

41. But someone like Bill-O who IS angry, not to mention batshit insane,

gets to hurl his hate on the airwaves for hours every day, and is touted as a spokesperson for the people.

It hurts my brain.

[Chisox08]

11. We need more people like Dr. Dean, Kucinich and Bernie Sanders in charge

It's a shame that America is the only Western Democracy that doesn't provide Health Care for all its citizens.

[valerief]

23. You can say that again and again and again and again and again.

I agree one trillion percent!

[ThomCat]

32. Yes! But the corporate gatekeepers won't allow that.

Politics is so dependent on their money that they are able to weed out almost everyone with any real progressive ideas or beliefs.

I don't know about Sanders, but I know that both Dean and Kucinich have been targetted for replacement, and they've barely been able to hang on. It is very good for us but surprising that they have been able to get inside and survive despite the dependency on corporate money.

[Bread and Circus]

12. We are not an embarrassment, we are victims of a well orchestrated political scam

perpetrated by very powerful, rich, and well-resourced corporate oligarchs.

[truedelphi]

47. Sadly that we are. n/t

[Kontora]

13. The GOP ignore stories like these

I'm so proud of patriots like Howard Dean to express disgust in the shambles of our health care system. Stories like this make me sick to my stomaches.

SEIU is awesome btw, these are like my people although I'm not in their union or affiliated with them any longer.

---
Setting the Agenda

[handmade34]

15. I am angry too

We all need to ask ourselves each day, what have we done to advance this, i.e. letters, calls, talk to someone, educate them, protest, etc. We got Barack Obama elected and we can get single payer.

http://standwithdrdean.com/
http://standwithdrdean.com/live
http://www.healthreform.gov/
http://hr676.org/
http://www.pnhp.org/facts/single_payer_resources.php
http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/facts
http://singlepayerhealthcarenow.com/
http://singlepayernow.net/
http://www.nhchc.org/singlepayer.html

[RufusTFirefly]

16. It's not a shame. It's an outrage

When a downpour ruins a picnic, that's a shame.
When a handful of wealthy corporations and their greedy government henchmen knowingly jeopardize the health of millions of Americans, that's an outrage.

[The Wizard]

17. Howard Dean is pissed off

as we all should be
When enough people get as mad as Howard Dean, the United States will join the rest of civilization and every American will have health care coverage.

[DFW]

19. Wow. I have NEVER seen Howard like that

I know he feels passionately about the subject, but that just brought it home.

No wonder Obama didn't want him in the cabinet as Health Secretary. Washington
might have come to believe that health care was a vital issue requiring immediate
attention, or something.

On the other hand, Howard is very loyal. As a cabinet Secretary, he would have held his
tongueif asked, out of loyalty to Obama. As a private citizen, he is free to (and he told
me this in exactly these words 4 months ago) "raise hell about issues I care about."

Does anyone have any doubts as to what one of those issues might be?

[quidam56]

20. Health care in America is a disgrace

Clearly, in Tennessee and Virginia, PROFIT CARE is more important than PATIENT CARE.

http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62

I've seen first hand what quality care looks like in E. TN and SWVA.

[cooolandrew]

21. Tell it like it is Dr. Dean tell it like it is. (nt)

[Libertas1776]

22. Why can't

the American Populous get vociferous and angry like Dean. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! WE WANT CHANGE! NOT TALK, CHANGE!

I AM MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!

[gorfle]

24. This guys is great.

I love that this guy displays real, genuine emotion.

I never understood the whole making fun of him during his campaign where he said the big "aaaaargh!" thing. For Pete's sake it's great to see a politician actually fired up about what he believes in, instead of staged bullshit designed to appeal to the latest polling.

[wundermaus]

25. It's an act.

http://www.singlepayeraction.org/blog/?p=886

[madfloridian]

26. I just posted that video. That group needs to provide proof Dean tried to arrest them.

Otherwise they have lost all credibility with many people.

Here is the post to the video with all the yelling and screaming, and blaming someone who was just there in Portland visiting.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=321786&mesg_id=321786

It sickens me to see the way that group is organizing protests against Dean while the Conservadems are hijacking the process.

But keep it up....turn on one who is at least speaking out. That's really the way to win a process.

[wundermaus]

28. I guess it all depends on who you trust...

Who do you trust? Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nINH8C8Fbxs

[madfloridian]

29. I do not trust groups that attack the very people trying to work for us.

I absolutely despise the contempt with which the single payer advocates hold those of us who are also advocating for the public option.

Most of us support both options, but a pattern is developing here to put down those who are not pushing primarily for single payer.

I am out of the trusting business with any group that accuses the former party chairman of trying to arrest them.

It is outrageous, and it is not true. He was there as a guest.

I am to the point that I think these outrageous antics and accusations will destroy our hopes for what we can get.

So attack me or whatever the hell you need to do.

But it is just stupid to say Dean is trying to arrest you.

[PassingFair]

30. Dean would be pressing for Single-Payer if there was a chance in HELL of passing it.

Public Option is the only way to shoehorn
in a Single Payer system.

It is the thin end of the wedge.

Half of America is TERRIFIED
of "letting the GOVERNMENT DECIDE"
their health care issues.

They're too rich or too stupid to
care that we're letting FOR PROFIT
INSURANCE COMPANIES decide these
issues right now.

I trust Howard Dean.

Completely.

[justinaforjustice]

31. Thank You for The Truth in a Nutshell.

Thanks for summarizing our systemic health care disaster so succinctly. I would much prefer to have a government worker routinely pay out for my health care than an insurance company which makes its profit by denying both coverage to those who need it and the claims of those who are paying for the insurance. Doctor Dean is one of the greatest politicians in our country. He truly cares about human beings and puts his formidable energy into improving conditions for all of us.

I was deeply disappointed in Obama's failure to recognize Dean's contributions to his electoral victory, but I am actually relieved that Dean is not restricted by having an official position in the Obama administration. We need Dean to be free to speak out honestly about the issues facing this country, especially as Obama appears to be so closely tied in to the wealthy elites, like Geithner and Summers, who are representing only the interests of their upper class friends and corporate sponsors.

We cannot allow Obama to leave health care reform to the likes of Max Baccus, who is funded by private health care insurers and the big drug companies.

[Enthusiast]

33. If we could only get this on MSM. nt

[Iwillnevergiveup]

35. Dean always did have me at health care

and he still screams for me. Making perfect sense and all.

K&R

[Soylent Brice]

36. we're going to have to get angry. it seems like congress only reacts

when they're pushed up against the wall.

good on Dr. Dean. the american people SHOULD be mad.

[janet118]

37. Dean gets it . . .

and anger is the only rational response to this country's so-called health care system. My friend had breast cancer which eventually killed her. At a time when she was struggling to get better, she had to go to work to keep her health insurance. When she was too sick to work and, therefore, too poor to make her insurance payments (without employer contributions), she lost her house to get on Medicare. Even though she had paid insurance premiums for 15 years on the job, she started from square one when she got sick. It's not like life insurance. It's pay and pay and then you get sick and your benefits are taken away when you can't work and can't make the now doubled payments for health "insurance."

It is sickening. This country is full of "I got mine" people who wait until it is their family that is affected by this perverted system to get angry. Wake up, America. This could be you.

[PassingFair]

38. Kick.

Compare this with Sebelius.....

WTF was Obama thinking?

[HelenWheels]

39. HOWARD DEAN’S PRESCRIPTION FOR REAL HEALTHCARE REFORM

He's got a new book coming out:

HOWARD DEAN’S PRESCRIPTION FOR REAL HEALTHCARE REFORM
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/groups/162-blog-for-america/blog_posts/28518-howard-dean%E2%80%99s-prescription-for-real-healthcare-reform

IN NEW BOOK HOWARD DEAN TAKES ON OPPONENTS OF HEALTH CARE REFORM

Dean outlines debate, the arguments being used by the opposition and makes the case for ensuring a public option

Burlington, VT (May 29, 2009) -- Former Vermont Governor, physician and DNC Chairman Howard Dean brings his unique, no-nonsense perspective to the health care debate in a new book that explains both the obstacles to reform and what it will take to achieve real healthcare reform. HOWARD DEAN’S PRESCRIPTION FOR REAL HEALTHCARE REFORM: How We Can Achieve Affordable Medical Care for Every American and Make Our Jobs Safer (http://www.deanshealthcare.com) will be released as an e-book in all formats the week of June 8, 2009, then released as a printed paperback on July 1, 2009. It will also be released as an iPhone application available for download in the iTunes App Store. In addition to being able to navigate and search the entire book, this interactive book application will allow readers to quickly and easily take action and get involved in the fight for health care reform. The official publication date is July 20, 2009.

[PassingFair]

49. Also a live chat tonite:

http://standwithdrdean.com/chat

[ensho]

42. love that Dean - get medical insurance companies out of our lives

NOW

[Iwillnevergiveup]

44. Please take Bernie Sanders' survey

http://sanders.senate.gov

12,280 responses so far and looking very favorable for single-payer

[Enrique]

45. k & r

very powerful video.

[truedelphi]

46. In a world much less corrupt than this one,

Howard Dean would be President Howard Dean.

[t0dd]

51. Howard Dean for President 2012 nt