Cenk, Greenwald & Ratigan on Obama, 2010 Elections

[Ramulux]

Run time: 11:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ggzNu6sUIk   Posted on YouTube: November 04, 2010 By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks Views on YouTube: 306   Posted on DU: November 05, 2010 By DU Member: Ramulux Views on DU: 1290

 
This is one of the best segments I have ever seen on cable news. Cenk, Glenn, and Dylan are right on the money and have great chemistry together. I could literally watch hours of these three.

[Marnie]

1. What they said

I absolutely agree if Obama had stood up for his own words, had stood up for the few Congressmen who stood up for him, we would have supported him, backed him, charged the ramparts for him.

I am so grateful for the folks who came out to the Sanity rally. Look at the difference in % population % of voters, about 40% more support for the Sanity rally, that Obama could still have behind him compared to the Tee Peeers that showed up for Beck. The proof of support for the democratic ideals was right there outside his windows. (I suppose it would have been too much to ask for him to cross the street and do a cameo.)

There is no shortage of believers, of supporters. But there is a leadership vacuum. This is old timey warfare. The general needs to put his/her political life on the line for what he believes and lead the charge. Voters, volunteer, citizen donors are not going to follow a leader who sits at the desk in an air conditioned office and plays with flow charts.

Look at history, what did it cost Lincoln, not even considering the assassination, but politically what did it cost him to lead to make controversial decisions, what did it cost Truman to stand up to MacArthur, what did it cost LBJ to do the right thing with the Equal Rights Act?

[Bluesbreaker]

6. Greenwald nails it

It's not that we're impatient. We would support him for the long haul if he were in there fighting for us, but he's not. He's not even trying. That's why his base is deserting him and his party.

[Hissyspit]

9. Here's what I wrote when I dupe-posted it:

Hissyspit Assigned-Viewing for All DUers.

MSNBC The DYLAN RATIGAN Show - Nov. 4, 2010: "Left Behind" Cenk Uygur and Glenn Greenwald wonder where the 3-dimensional chess is. Greenwald: Base-of-party voters didn't turn out because they weren't given a reason why they would think it was worthwhile. Ratigan: We have an industries-financed government. Cenk on Social Security cuts: "We're not gonna let them do it. We're going to war."

Very interesting discussion no matter your position and what you think happened with the mid-terms.

PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMUx6Bt6qVg

[Billsmile]

2. I Support The Professional Left!

They make much more sense than President Obama does. They "get it."

[flamingdem]

3. nt

[slipslidingaway]

4. knr nt

[bbgrunt]

5. +100.

[hulka38]

7. What a great conversation.

This is the big picture stuff that needs to be talked about.

[Stardust]

8. Good discussions. I didn't realize Ratigan leans left.

[denimgirly]

10. Then you hadn't been Paying Attention

A number of DU hate Ratigan because, like Cenk, he says it like it is -- he will call out Dems as weaklings as often as he will call out Repbs for being thieves. I am very Liberal and although Ratigan claims to be Conservative he passion is very much Left leaning...very similar to Cenk's very Progressive views.

[jgraz]

11. Dylan truly understands how crony capitalism and big finance work.

And he has a conscience, which means he can't avoid being a leftie.

[JTFrog]

12. He doesn't. He came right out and said flat out he's a conservative.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/14/dylan-ratigan-i-consider-_n_716296.html

[FlyByNight]

13. The conversation towards the end was telling...

...when they were discussing Social Security and the bullshit Debt/Deficit Commission.

Given the president's cave-first-then-negotiate style, I now fear for Social Security (which has nothing to do with the national debt). Meaningful reform like raising or removing the $90K-$100K cap probably isn't being seriously discussed.

We all know that the commission proposals will be that the middle/working class will have to "tighten our belts", yet again, through benefit cuts, raising the retirement age, etc. And all this against a backdrop of continued Wall St. bonuses and immense profits while hoarding trillions of dollars and not loaning.

The president better find a spine. Fast.

:mad:

[Enthusiast]

14. Spine ain't the issue.

Obviously there is a reason the deficit commission was stacked with 'fiscal conservatives' and anti-New Deal zealots. It simply cannot have been by accident. So this tells us more than, maybe, we want to know or accept about the mysterious nature of the enigma that is President Obama.

[NJmaverick]

15. They were all celebrating the GOP victory they worked so hard for

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[Cowpunk]

16. Big time K&R for this one.

Outstanding commentary from all three.