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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 12:22 PM
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Sorry Alex Jones, Freeze Dried Food Won't Save Us
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_mAqLX0xoc
 
Posted on YouTube: December 02, 2010
By YouTube Member: SamSeder
Views on YouTube: 834
 
Posted on DU: December 03, 2010
By DU Member: Charleston Chew
Views on DU: 1103
 
If there really is a One World Cabal out there, the one thing they would be sure to do is invent an Alex Jones to say that there's a One World Cabal out there. http://majority.fm


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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 01:11 PM
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1. Glad that someone is standing up to those Alex Jones cult members.
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 01:14 PM by Crowman1979
How much do you wanna bet they are gonna flood this youtube video with negative comments? They do that with even the most tame criticism of that nutjob (i.e. TYT). Oddly enough, there are some on DU who think his shit don't stink.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 01:23 PM
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2. Hey Charleston Chew, I heard the shoutout on Sammy's show the other day
Good job! :thumbsup:
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 01:25 PM
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3. yeah! thanx
it felt good
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Mark D. Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:12 PM
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4. The Plan
I went into the rabbit hole as a liberal / progressive. I went much deeper than Alex, to the folks who think HE is part of the NWO or whatever. Yes, there are elements of truth that deep. But what lacked universally was solutions. One day watching a Frank Factor video, Frank responded to an email that talked about some 'elite in control of things' and his response was 'no f***ing kidding'. It was sort of an epiphany of what I already knew. The left KNOWS of the work done by those who are not as easily seen, who work covertly for the 'elite'. The left has the ultimate solutions. Dennis Kucinich saying how the market/system in the US and elsewhere moves wealth 'up the pyramid' is his nod toward those things. He gets it, he knows. But he also knows what has to be done to stop it. He points out how insurers, banks, the military industrial complex, etc., take money from the many (ie. bottom 99%) and move it to the few (the top 1%, .01% especially).

But try to explain that to a fan of the conspiracy theory, anti-NWO movement, and they'll often miss that. They just keep attacking the puppet (government, controlled by corporate lobbyist bribes) and NOT the 'hidden hand' that is very real. But as Thom Hartmann once pointed out to Alex, in a very respectful discussion, the NWO plot is for the most part NOT hidden. It's in plain sight. The Federal Reserve giving trillions in low interest loans to big financial firms, that can use that money in the casino that crashed our economy (and will again, since the weak reforms did not do enough). But it's amazing, while Alex seemed to get what Thom said and agreed, many followers of 'Alex-lite' (Beck, Faux, etc.) just don't buy that. They are convinced it's 'liberals that think they know what's best for us' in govt. at the root of everything. The whole Tea Party movement trotted out to get folks running in the wrong direction. To take any action to change the tide of upward wealth movement by market socialism, and corporate liberalism/libertarianism, and call it 'socialism'. To have Faux News say it is 'punishing success'.

The plan works, the sheeple fall for it. The Fox is in the hen house, the hens don't know any better. They keep blaming the government which is at best a complicit puppet, and not those at work behind the scenes. No, they're not reptiles or aliens, they are the corporate elite. A very real sociopathic group that cares about profit first. Greed is the root of all evil. I try to explain that one trillion a year shifts from the bottom 99% to the top 1%, since about 1980. The self-interested who are invested in the status quo or ignorant blurt out how 'they earned it'. No. The predatory lending, the selling of garbage people don't need. The credit extensions that put the masses in debt. The way credit replaced income since about 1980, so people still bought as much stuff without the money to do so, saving less, struggling more. How Bush would brag 'productivity is up' while those imbeciles danced around with glee, ignorant that it meant they were working more for the same or less pay. And they did, the average worker makes less and less, inflation adjusted.

Profits going up (owners, investors, upper management only) and not shared with the workers. That's so pre-1980's unionist! We don't do that now! That's how you slowly get rid of the middle class, pushing them into a massive working poor, that makes too much to qualify for any help (that they constantly cut back), and not enough to do anything but work and pay bills to barely hang on. Too tired to protest, those with time on their hands are lead the wrong way by Fox News and corporate media. Eating food with Monsanto, Dow, and other chemicals in it, so they can get cancer and need drugs made by the same chemical companies, quite often, that have side effects that include: cancer. Sedentary, they let Fox News think for them, and Dancing With The Stars is the only exercise they get as they live vicariously through it. THAT is what we must fear. It's been a slow go on the downward spiral, but it's picked up the pace recently. We've never been a more profitable society to the very few, and never had more thinking we are the opposite (becoming socialized).

They still believe what Sarah Palin tells them, that the 'elite' are coffee-drinking, well-educated liberals, and NOT the financial and corporate elite that really call the shots. Press folks like Alex Jones and they'll say 'yeah', and admit the corporate role. But then on the next broadcast, it's right back to how 'big government' will harm us. I've heard it all, I've heard right-wing idiots say regulation caused the banker's carelessness that crashed the economy. That regulations caused the BP oil spill. Again, just say the opposite long enough, and you'll have enough fooled to toe that line too. This is my one quest, to find a way to bridge that gap. To find a way to get the 'angry' to be angry about the correct thing. NOT a too-little, too-late effort by the prez and others supposedly on the left to fix things, but how we are screwed by the market socialism. That's what it is, and I'm patenting that phrase today. In their worry of a 'government big brother', they empower the few elite 'big brothers'. Wake those people up. Keep up the good work.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 04:41 PM
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5. I prefer the Faber approach
Edited on Fri Dec-03-10 04:42 PM by jakeXT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ncQbQWmWLM&feature=player_embedded


Marc Faber: You want to have a farm in the middle of nowhere (03/16/09)


“This economic crisis is very serious and it will end with the next war.”
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mackdaddy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 10:34 AM
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6. Sam is wrong on this one..
I think that Sam Seeder is being too simplistic in his approach to Alex Jones and his "New World Order". I listen to Thom Hartmann and Alex Jones shows both several times a week. Alex can definitely be over the top, and will often take some small fact and blow it up into the proof of a massive complex issue. He is also very socially conservative and very anti government for everything. But he has some very valid arguments and facts, and he often goes after the nutcase repubs like Bohner as well as pushing the Pelosi hysteria.

I think that there is ample evidence of a relatively small group of "Economic Royalist" who have been able to manipulate politicians and governments world wide to benefit their massive corporations and themselves at the expense of we everyday people. Some examples which I think Sam and Alex would agree on:

The Corruption of small countries world wide as detailed in "Confessions of an economic Hitman"
Cheney and the "Project for a new American Century" documents ginning up a war with Iraq 5 years before it happened.
Assassinating "terrorist" using drones and missiles in Pakistan and Yemen.
Using 911 to give us the pre-written "Patriot Act" and The Department of Fatherland..er.. Homeland Security.
Just the very fact that a company like Blackwater can exist.
Enron buying enough politicians to change all of the energy trading laws to be so crooked they imploded.
The entire banking and finance industry and their being too big to fail, but not too big to destroy the entire economy but still make a tidy profit from it.
The "free speech zones" or arresting organizers of peaceful protest at the Repub national convention.
The "naked body scanners" or in your pants gropedown searches to be able to get on an airplane.
Moving millions of American manufacturing jobs to third world countries and paying the corporations to do this with our tax dollars.

All of these things and more seem to be benefiting a small group of a few thousand people at the expense of the other 6 billion of us. Oligarchy, Economic Royalist, Powers that Be, Bilderbergers, Mafia, Military-Industrial Complex, or New World Order, I do not think that it matters what you call them, it is hard to argue they do not exist. And they have vast influence over Media, Business, Finance, and Government the world over. I do not doubt that these elitist would cut each others throats if they got the chance, but they also will work together, especially if it vastly benefits them.

Alex Jones made a documentary titled "The Obama Deception" a couple of years ago, which I admit that I have never seen. But, I would not be surprised if Thoom Hartmann or Ed Schults would now write a book using the same title.

I still have my Obama 08 sticker on my truck. But I have been feeling more than a little deceived here recently.




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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 11:00 AM
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7. IIRC
Didn't the phrase "new world order" come up in a speech bush the elder gave to a joint session of congress urging action on the first gulf destruction, ironically enough on September 11th ?Probably not a new coinage at the time,but none of the wingnut twits seem aware that it's nothing recent.Of course that lack of awareness is almost SOP for that crew.So much of the wingnut talk about self-sufficiency and self-reliance sounds to me like a reiteration of the hippie ethos of the 60s I'm sure they'll never get around to communes because of course that sounds too much like socialism.
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 11:44 AM
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9. Myron Coureval Fagan
Edited on Sat Dec-04-10 11:46 AM by Charleston Chew
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mackdaddy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 01:49 PM
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10. "Thousand points of Light" speech used "NWO" term

Alex plays it all the time, but a bit out of context.

The biggest problem I do have with Alex Jones and the Libertarians in general is not recognizing that we do live in a Society. That although we should all be as self sufficient and self reliant as possible, that we do need at least some "socialism". Fire, Police, the Military are all "socialist". All insurance is collective to some extent. Totally "Free markets" are like "free" love. Someone is getting screwed, and someone is going to end up with a disease. Regulations and the "ismzm" are always needed, the trick is getting enough without them taking over.

Any organization or government can be corrupted, and we must always be on the lookout for this. But social security has worked wonderfully, and I would be thrilled if I could BUY into medicare instead of being crushed under my payments to BCBS. And it would be great if enforced the anit-monopoly laws and did a little trust busting on these massive corporate behemoths. I am also all for a little protectionism to keep jobs in this country.





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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 06:00 PM
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11. I love listening to Thom and Bernie on Fridays! n/t
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 11:11 AM
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