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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 03:45 PM
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TYT: Bloomberg to Ban Soda for NYC Welfare Recipients
 
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:01 PM
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1. How can he do that?
Is the city paying for the welfare?
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:16 PM
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2. I wonder how that slob would feel,
if he were on welfare.
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:20 PM
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3. Sugared drinks are only OKAY for rich people!
Of course, I don't like to drink a lot of soda.

Of course it's not a good diet item of choice, but it's an item of choice.

Poor people don't deserve to make a choice?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 08:00 PM
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12. speaking of rich people
I posted this comment:

"Hey Mayor! Or more appropriately Mr. President. How about banning wine/parties/luxuries from CORPORATE welfare recepients?"

Regular folks on welfare: a life of ruin and sadness

Corporate executives on welfare: still spoiled luxurious babies
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 08:17 PM
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13. Isn't the whole notion of food stamps as opposed to cash payments
denying poor people a choice?
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forty6 Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 08:26 PM
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14. Uh no! The choice becomes what taxpayers choose to buy for the poor and ..
how they wish to pay for it.

Cash is sort of a nineteenth century way of paying, food stamps as stamps were 20'th century,

Paying for goods and services on some plastic card is truly 21'st century.

The question is NOT how the payment is made, but what the payment can be for.

I guess now poor people will live healthier less salted less sugared lives than the rich people, if this goes through.

NOT too bad, but hope you're not that poor someday to have no choices left.
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 08:56 PM
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15. But shouldn't the poor be making those choices? They are (or should
be) free to choose sugar soda pop as part of the the food stamp plan. My comment was that the fact that we as a nation are saying to the poor that we are going to spend $1000 per family on them (hypothetically). But since we don't trust them to use those funds wisely we are going to allocate it to certain expenses and that family has no choice in the matter. So, $400 goes to food stamps, $300 to Medicaid, $300 to Section 8 voucher, $75 goes to utilitiy subsidies, and $25 comes in cash (not folding money but non-limited funds)
Isn't that a bit paternalistic?
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silenttigersong Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:34 PM
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4. Slightly Facist
just put a warning label on soda products..furthermore what about pure sugar in other products?:smoke: :wtf: :spank:
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:47 PM
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5. A few years ago'
You could sell your food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar, cash. That's the same markdown you get when you play the lotto.

If the ban goes into effect, which I seriously doubt because of the huge money soda companies have available in lobbyist dollars, but then they have to ban everything with High Fructose Corn Syrup. Like that would ever happen.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:01 PM
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8. I believe the corn industry prefers the term "Corn Sugar" nowadays..
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:47 PM
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6. Hold on. What about selzer?
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 05:50 PM
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7. Once upon a time
Welfare recipients received bulk foods like flour, cheese, beans, powdered milk and what not from government warehouses that stored them as agricultural surpluses.

The food industry liked the part where the feds bought up surpluses but not the part where they gave them away. Thus, food stamps were invented so the poor could help subsidize all the steps in the food chain.

Bloomberg doesn't know it yet, but the soda lobby is bigger than he is, and they won't approve of his messing with their profits even a little.
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:09 PM
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9. Heh
Good luck with that Bloomberg, you fucking idiot.

On a side note - Gamefly is pretty sweet, wish I had a job and could afford it.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 06:29 PM
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10. Ana might be cute...
But she totally lost me here. Freedom of choice shouldn't be limited to people who make more money. Besides, many people on welfare or UI contributed to the system at one point or another.

Ms. Kasparian is not correct here.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 07:55 PM
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11. How ridiculous can you get.?
How do sugarless "soda" or diet soda fit into this. Bloomberg gets an F here for common sense. What is next, whole milk gets the axe for fat content?
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