John Pilger: The War You Don't See - Excellent MUST SEE Documentary For Sunday! (Graphic Content)

[Turborama]

Run time: 15:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egcTynu6sBk   Posted on YouTube: December 17, 2010 By YouTube Member: TheMediaCorruption Views on YouTube: 1384   Posted on DU: December 19, 2010 By DU Member: Turborama Views on DU: 4632

 
(If you don't have time to watch it now, I thoroughly recommend bookmarking it for when you do. This will most likely not be shown on American TV)

The other parts can be watched here: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMediaCorruption#g/c/768F3DA0D12B82A4

Also available to watch in full here: http://www.viddler.com/explore/TruceAssholes/videos/7/

A powerful and timely investigation into the media's role in war, tracing the history of 'embedded' and independent reporting from the carnage of World War One to the destruction of Hiroshima, and from the invasion of Vietnam to the current war in Afghanistan and disaster in Iraq. As weapons and propaganda become even more sophisticated, the nature of war is developing into an 'electronic battlefield' in which journalists play a key role, and civilians are the victims. But who is the real enemy?

John Pilger says in the film: "We journalists... have to be brave enough to defy those who seek our collusion in selling their latest bloody adventure in someone else's country... That means always challenging the official story, however patriotic that story may appear, however seductive and insidious it is. For propaganda relies on us in the media to aim its deceptions not at a far away country but at you at home... In this age of endless imperial war, the lives of countless men, women and children depend on the truth or their blood is on us... Those whose job it is to keep the record straight ought to be the voice of people, not power."

Pilger's biography: http://www.johnpilger.com/biography

Homepage: http://www.johnpilger.com

[Swagman]

1. many thanks. Pilger has integrity intelligence & honesty

[rainy]

2. Thanks for posting. Nt

[Delphinus]

3. Thank you. n/t

[Mabus]

4. I'm just starting part 3

Thank you for posting this. It's a breath of fresh air.

[Overseas]

5. K&R. Glad Pilger is presenting this. It deserves more scrutiny.

It was tough to see the lead up to the war on Iraq based on so many blatant lies,
with media giants going along with those lies even though many knew them to be lies,
and millions of us around the world protested against going to war.

[Mabus]

6. Wow! Just finished watching

I wish I could recommend this more than once.

[Nostalgic]

7. Thanks for posting this Turborama.

k&r

[Turborama]

8. Final 1/2 hour segment in which Pilger talks to Julian Assange

Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVzS2AJ1eM

[Delphinus]

15. I am so

outraged by this I can't breathe. I want to rip that silly little smile off that guy's face and let him know what terror *really* is. The military who just shoots them up - fuck! Forget this shit - go back to hand-to-hand combat, look the enemy in the face, KNOW who you are killing! This is just fucking senseless!

[Turborama]

9. Thank you everyone for your thanks and recs.

I hope you find this as informative and compelling as I did. If you can download a good quality copy it's well worth it, as it's a real keeper that deserves watching at least a couple of times. (ETA if anyone wants a hand getting hold of a high quality standalone version please feel free to send me a PM)

Also, I reckon it really needs to go viral so please comment, fave and share using the options at the YouTube link.

[sabrina 1]

10. I remember reading Pilger's reports on the wars back when

they began. He was one of the best sources for real information back then and his work was posted often on Democratic Boards. If it were not for him, and Dahr Jamail among the few real investigative reporters, we might never have known the full truth about those wars.

I may be wrong, but I did think he had taken time off, exhausted by the work he has done for the past decade.

There is an incredible interview online, that he did with Hugo Chavez a while ago. If the American people were exposed to this level of journalism, this would be a very different country.

Thanks for posting this, I will watch it later. I know he was outraged over the drone attacks in Afghanistan when Bush was president. He wrote in detail about what he witnessed while on the ground and it was simply devastatingly heart-breaking.

I am so glad to see him stand up for Wikileaks, there is no one whose opinion I respect more than his and just knowing he is on the side of Wikileaks should tell people a lot about this whole affair.

[tomm2thumbs]

11. wish I could rec this so many more times ••• MUST SEE ••••

hope that helps, before it drops off the home page

[Turborama]

12. Just found a FULL 1 1/2 hour version on YouTube!

Really wish I'd found it earlier but here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7wXhN5h_Pg

To help it go viral please comment, rate, fave and share on Facebook etc...

[EFerrari]

13. Thanks! I was all set to wait until Pilger had it on his site. n/t

[Turborama]

14. My pleasure, just found 15 more of his documentaries collated in one place to watch online

Here: http://www.sprword.com/johnpilger.html

:hi:

[DeSwiss]

16. K&R

- We will pay a terrible price for what we do and what we have allowed to be done in our name.

"....and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." - Isaiah 2:4

[defendandprotect]

17. Fantastic job by John Pilger -- As we see from WikiLeaks, journalists are

our defense against the lies of those in power --

but our journalists aren't made of the same stuff bombs are made of --

they are easily destroyed by those in power.

Collusion is one of the filthiest words I know --

and certainly "embedded" can convey only one reality -- "in bed with."


One of the most difficult realizations for a citizen/human to arrive

at is the suicidal nature of patriarchy --

And that is simply because none of us think that way --

It prevents us all from understanding the true threat of those who worship violence.

Pariarchy and Violence are mirror images of one another --




Patriarchy -- and its underpinning =

Organized patriarchal religion -- and its economic system =

Capitalism =

The Unholy Trinity

[Pharaoh]

18. Thank You........

K&R

[Homer03]

19. But

Lets not get too carried away with our wishing for the world we want and lose sight of the real world we live in. Man has been killing his fellow man from the very beginning. Ask the German Jews that managed to survive the 1930s and 1940s if choosing to fight would have been a better choice than trying to live a higher form of life. Our men and women in uniform are engaging those that would, if given the chance, annihilate us. We cant make those enemies go away by wishing. I think we should be getting out of the wars we are in but I dont believe the bad guys will let us live in peace just because we choose peace. Sometimes you have to fight.

[NOLALady]

21. Right.

Sometimes you have to fight when you are stealing resources from another country.

[Turborama]

26. Did you watch the documentary? n/t

[Homer03]

33. I did

And the piece is just as much an effort at controlling opinion, "public relations", propaganda and selling ones own point of view as that which it rails against. Why it sounds like they dont believe we have any real enemies. To compare WW1 propaganda that used the Statue of Liberty to the 911 devistation is rediculous. The World Trade Center is really gone and the radicals in the world want that for our entire civilization. Question-Do you believe that the US has enemies intent on setting off an atomic weapon or other WMD on our soil?

[Turborama]

34. Did you watch the whole 1 1/2 hours or just the clip embedded in the OP?

Because it sounds like you don't really get what it was all about.

[Homer03]

35. actually

I am trying more to comment on the views expressed in the comments than on the clip I watched. I spend much time arguing with the righties and I dont want the over the top views that give them so much ammo in their argument that lefties cant be trusted with national security to go unchallenged-Peace out

[Turborama]

36. That'll be a "no", then.

I'm not going to bother trying untangle that word salad.

[Homer03]

38. ok

Yes its a no. Next time i'll dumb it down a little for you.

[Turborama]

39. I don't think that's possible

Look up "word salad".

[Devil_Fish]

43. Welcome to DU, enjoy your short stay. NT

[sabrina 1]

44. Why do you think the U.S. has those enemies?

[lumpy]

40. " our men and women in uniform are engaging those that would

..annihilate us." Your words. Doubtfull that any Iraqi would have been interested in annihilating us before their country was bloodedly invaded by the US. In Iraq's case we created our Iraqi enemies by bloodshed, bombing and straffing. This country was in no danger from Iraq and the Iraq invasion was not a defensive action, period.

[ejbr]

20. k & r

"nice" find...if that word can be used again.

[CrawlingChaos]

22. K&R and thank you for posting

John Pilger is one of the best and this could not be more critically important. I wish we could make every American watch, including (and especially) the graphic content. It's high time we stopped having the wars sanitized for us by the war profiteers!

[bengalherder]

23. Thank you

I had found the other parts but not the first.

Hopefully it will become availible on torrent soon.

[Turborama]

31. It's available in several venues to download now

I'd recommend going for anything over 1 Gig.

[Catherina]

24. Thank you! Rec'd n/t

[Tripod]

25. Pilger bringing more truth.

I'm enjoying these videos that you help to bring to my attention. Thank you.

[snappyturtle]

27. THANK YOU! nt

[ElsewheresDaughter]

28. also A MUST WATCH .".The Century of the Self" ...... Edward Bernaise was Sigmund Frued's nephew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dA89CBBOC0

[Turborama]

30. Agree 100%! All four episodes are well worth watching

There are some full versions on Google video, too: http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Century+Of+The+Self&num=100&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbs=vid:1&ei=6gQPTem6BsXtrAfb_KGLDA&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CA8Q_AU

:hi:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. always wanted to tell you that I love the "The Jar & the Rocks, Pebbles, Sand and Beer " story ty.

The Jar & the Rocks, Pebbles, Sand and Beer

A Philosophy professor one day sat several items on the desk in front of his class. Wordlessly he picked up a large empty jar and proceeded to fill it with rocks, rocks about 2" in diameter. He then asked his students if the jar was full? They unanimously agreed that the jar was full.

So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, of course, rolled into the open areas between the rocks. He then asked his students again if the jar was full. Again, they unanimously agreed that the jar was full.

Then the professor picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. "Now," the professor said, "I want you to recognize that this is your life. The rocks are the important things: your family, your partner, your friends, your health, your children, and things that if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full.

The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house, your car. The sand is everything else. If you put the sand into the jar first, there is no room for the pebbles or the rocks. The same goes for your life. If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the things that are important to you.

At this point the professor proceeded to pour a glass of beer into the jar full of rocks, pebbles, and sand. Of course the beer filled the remaining spaces within the jar making the jar truly full. After finishing off the remaining beer in the glass, the professor spoke. "No matter how full your life seems to be, there is always room for beer. Set your priorities well cause the rest is just rocks, pebbles and sand."

[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. I wept for days and days after seeing Bush's "Shock and Awe" being broadcast live ...

and I get sick to my stomach watching it again.

[Turborama]

32. I forgot to add this, which I think is an important related read that goes with the Falluja portion

Bushco Bombed 2 Foreign Offices of an Ally's TV News Channel & Planned to Bomb its Head Office!
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Turborama/84

[54anickel]

41. Pilger made a great presentation at Socialism 2009. It's on youtube. Of course, YMMV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXL998q7skI&feature=related

[Devil_Fish]

42. I just watched the whole thing. We are monsters. We are the terrorist. NT

[Oilwellian]

45. Glad to see this documentary is still on the first page

The brutal truth usually disappears into the ethers. It's encouraging to see this one has staying power.

[RavensTown]

46. War is a Racket...always has been