My cartoon video - Before Capitalism

[murdoch]

Run time: 04:49 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MosLD-5fQJQ   Posted on YouTube: January 30, 2011 By YouTube Member: adelsonvelskylandis Views on YouTube: 2   Posted on DU: January 30, 2011 By DU Member: murdoch Views on DU: 926

 
I made this video today. It is slightly academic, and I wrote the script quickly, but the ideas I've thought about for a long time (from the reading and work of others to some extent).

I may do less academic, more funny videos if people like this.

I don't want to advertise a product, but as the first video you make is free it's not really advertising so much. The company at the end of the video allows you to make one video like this on their website for free. It is really cool.

[RandomThoughts]

1. Interesting movie. Great way to share thoughts with people.

Just think if they could get CGI to the level of something like the Smegol character in LOTR, and if they could create entire graphics banks of data for moves and expressions, they could do that very thing with TV shows.

There probably will be high quality CGI with that format for tv shows some day. There was a story written about that in the 60s.

Although the skin textures on shows like supernatural on TNT are a bit off, seems the reflective properties of the textures doesn't quite work. I think it is some combination of smoothness and reflectivity equal across the entire texture that gives it the CGI look.


On the topic of your comment.

It is possible that agricultural was preferred because of added societal security of not having to move between locations even if there were advantages in production to a mobile society, a society in one location could build more stable items like housing and protection.

[murdoch]

3. Origins of farming

Yes, there's a lot of debate in academia over why farming started. Your reason is one they consider. I, like everyone else, don't really know, although I prefer the ideas expressed in the videos, like the proto-cultivation of grasses helped it happen, as well as perhaps a nascent class structure developing. There are other ideas as well, such as that climate or ecological problems caused it. It is usually expressed in a popular manner as a step forward, which it was eventually, but initially it was a step backward, until animals and plants were domesticated. So the questions around its origin are a bit mysterious. The other interesting thing is, as it says in the video, it happened all over the world at roughly the same time - another mystery. Maize was domesticated in Central America near the time grasses were first domesticated into crops in the Middle East.

[RandomThoughts]

8. Your evaluating success based on production value.

Success has many more factors, what if planting farms and watching them grow had a 'fun' aspect of building something. Even if less then the hunter gather, that could be enough of a motivation if still above needed amounts.

The point being, you may be trying to find the factor of success without thinking what success includes, or by a dynamic of 'economy' not people in the society. A common problem in much of society.

The corporation doing good, and the employees doing good are different thoughts.




So the farm making more food in production.

And people enjoying agriculture or its benefits of stability of location.

Are not the same computation.

[truedelphi]

10. Personally I think "agriculture" occurred because people like to

Eat a variety of things.

Even though there were some advantages to the hunter/gatherer lifestyle, many of those that would be included in this way of life also raised crops. For instance, the Mound people of the Southern Illinois and Indiana and Ohio areas -- they had a lot of spare time on their hands, but probably did have some crops growing near their villages.

I would suggest that what changed the world into a "capitalistic" society is not so much related to agriculture, but to the end of tribal sharing.

American Indian tribes had a culture that was highly based on sharing within the tribes. They did produce crops, though they liked meat enough to follow the huge herds of various animals around.

I would say that more than the "invention" of agriculture, what brought about Capitalism was the time periods that "religion" was perverted, and along with the prevision of "religion" came the notion of a god king, then the notion that there was a class of people above the average tribal person - "more important" person(s), i.e. the royal family was able to enslave the others.

You see this all through history. The Egyptian pharaoh system, that spread across the Mediterranean.

And you can also examine the perversion of Christ's message of sharing so that that notion became one of conquering "Christian" tribes taking over early Europe and installing Inquisitions. For instance, as early as the fifth or sixth century, Ireland was a place that people fled to to escape the regimented Christianity and experience a more blending of the beliefs of pre-Christian tribal people with the better notions gleaned from the purer more essential Christianity.

[murdoch]

2. Murdoch on Murdoch

There are books with names like Scorsese on Scorsese, Herzog on Herzog, Lynch on Lynch etc., so why not Murdoch on Murdoch? OK, well I'm not there yet. I've been thinking of putting a video on Youtube for a long time and thought this was really cool though.

Anyhow, the despicable Christopher Hitchens once said that Victor Navasky called the Nation magazine a "dialogue between radicals and liberals".

In this video, the lighter woman represents a kind of socialist view of things, while the darker man represents a kind of anarchist or maybe even anarcho-primitivist side of things. That's a kind of subtext in the video, although it is short enough that it is not so obvious. Also, the software doesn't like one person to speak to long, so I put one sentence in his longest monologue in her mouth.

I love this technology. I bet we can all make some funny videos about the GOP etc.

[greiner3]

7. I see you have many ideas to contribute to the OP;

However, I do not understand your statement "the despicable Christopher Hitchens..." I do not care for his neocolonialistic bent where he is in favor of the Iraq/Afghanistan invasions. But if I agreed with him on everything, I would be Christopher Hitchens.

[Bryn]

4. Not everyone at DU can hear

Put in subtitles. Thank you :)

[theFrankFactor]

5. Sharing

[Enthusiast]

6. From my own experience I can say with

certainty that hunting your own food is far more preferable to buying it in a grocery store. Human evolutionary history is mostly that of hunting and gathering. Experience it yourself to understand the benefits and satisfaction of living that primordial state. Of course at today's human population this just isn't feasible. Human population growth should be severely constrained if we are to ever to reverse the damage we have done to the environment. Jmho

[truedelphi]

9. K & R for later viewing. n/t