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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:08 AM
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Soros: Faux' 'Newspeak' Type Propaganda "Succeeded In Germany Where The Weimar Republic Collapsed"
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 01:37 AM by Turborama
 
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(I have found and uploaded the full segment. Interestingly, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x555966">CNN had only put a clip online containing the section up to where I put the transcript in bold.)

ETA For some reason, embedded views don't get added to the YouTube viewing stats if they are just watched here. Please click on the YouTube link (and use the share function, if you have the time) to help the view count go up and for this to reach a wider audience.

Thanks a lot in advance,

T.

BTW I wrote something likening how the Nazis used "Volksempfänger" (The People's Receiver) to how Faux operates http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9018714&mesg_id=9020555">here.




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ZAKARIA: George, I want you to look at a piece of video we have here.


GLENN BECK: The question is, do we have a shadow government? And, if we do, who are those intelligent minority that is -- that is guiding us through? And where are they guiding us to?

If you skip past all of the puppets and the strings, if you stop looking at the puppets themselves, you have to see who's behind the puppets. Who is choosing the puppets and the players? Who's the puppet master?

George Soros.


ZAKARIA: So, George, Glenn Beck has been on this kick that you are actually the mastermind who is trying to bring down the American government. How do you react when you see this kind of thing?

SOROS: Well, I would be amused if -- if people saw the joke in it, because what he is doing, he is projecting what FOX, what Rupert Murdoch is doing, because he has a -- a media empire that is telling the people some falsehoods and this -- and leading the government in the wrong direction.

But, you know, by accusing me of doing that, it kind of makes it rather hard to see that it's really, he is working for the man who is doing it, which is FOX News.

ZAKARIA: But it's very personal. I mean, he talks about you as a 14-year-old boy and he accuses you of -- of essentially helping to round Jews up -- you're Jewish yourself. You've lost --

SOROS: Yes.

ZAKARIA: You lost many, many people in the holocaust. How did you feel when you heard that?

SOROS: Well, look, FOX News makes a habit -- it has imported the methods of George Orwell, you know, newspeak, where you can tell the people falsehoods and deceive them. And you wouldn't believe that at an open society and a democracy these methods can succeed.

But, actually, they did succeed. They succeeded in Germany where the Weimar Republic collapsed and you had a -- a Nazi regime follow it. So this is a very, very dangerous way of deceiving people, and I would like people to be aware that they are being deceived.

Now, I -- because I saw it as a child, I immediately react that way. But people in America, they are innocent. They -- they haven't had the experience. But having the experience now, and I hope they WAKE UP and they realize that they are being deceived.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:15 AM
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1. K & R!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:25 AM
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2. "The Fuhrer
praises the superiority of our system when compared with liberal ones. We educate our people according to a common world-view. With the aid of films, radio and the press, which the Fuhrer sees as the most important tools of popular leadership. The state must never let them out of her hands. The Fuhrer also has a good word for the way our journalists have behaved. The Propaganda Companies have made an essential contribution to this." ~ Joseph Goebbels / diary entry / June 20, 1941 / The Goebbels Diaries; 1939-1941

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering - Nazi Reichsmarshall and Luftwaffe-Chief

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1642726&mesg_id=1642819
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 01:37 AM
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3. this video is incredible finally after all these years people are calling Faux out by name!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 04:52 AM
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4. Hitler on Propaganda
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 04:53 AM by Turborama
In chapter six of Mein Kampf,Hitler reviewed the use of propaganda during World War I. In the course of his criticism of the German effort, he included comments on the function of propaganda in general. His statements offer insight into the methods used by the Nazi Party.

Source: Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf,translated by Ralph Manheim. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1943.

The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc., whose significance is thus for the first time placed within their field of vision.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

All propaganda must be popular and its intellectual level must be adjusted to the most limited intelligence among those it is addressed to. Consequently, the greater the mass it is intended to reach, the lower its purely intellectual level will have to be. But if, as in propaganda for sticking out a war, the aim is to influence a whole people, we must avoid excessive intellectual demands on our public, and too much caution cannot be extended in this direction.

The more modest its intellectual ballast, the more exclusively it takes into consideration the emotions of the masses, the more effective it will be. And this is the best proof of the soundness or unsoundness of a propaganda campaign, and not success pleasing a few scholars or young aesthetes.

The art of propaganda lies in understanding the emotional ideas of the great masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thence to the heart of the broad masses. The fact that our bright boys do not understand this merely shows how mentally lazy and conceited they are.

Once understood how necessary it is for propaganda in be adjusted to the broad mass, the following rule results:

It is a mistake to make propaganda many-sided, like scientific instruction, for instance.

The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan and try to be many-sided, the effect will piddle away, for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered. In this way the result is weakened and in the end entirely cancelled out.

Thus we see that propaganda must follow a simple line and correspondingly the basic tactics must be psychologically sound.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

What, for example, would we say about a poster that was supposed to advertise a new soap and that described other soaps as 'good'?
We would only shake our heads.

Exactly the same applies to political advertising.

The function of propaganda is, for example, not to weigh and ponder the rights of different people, but exclusively to emphasize the one right which it has set out to argue for. Its task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:06 AM
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6. "denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism"
We watched that replayed exactly leading up to the Iraq War. Well, the Iraq War, Afghanistan, the Gulf War and especially Vietnam.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:03 AM
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5. Is it any wonder that insane Beck
wants to shut him up? Amazing that this truth was allowed to be told on CNN.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:37 AM
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7. Great post, thank you. Eom
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 11:12 AM
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9. Thank you Frank
Coming from you, that's a great compliment.
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civilisation Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:55 AM
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8. I noticed this with Bush Jr.,. .
He would always accuse others of the traits he was exhibiting,. "they hate our freedom" from the president that gave us renditions, phone/email taping and every conceivable rollback of democracy. It is simple transference they project the actions they are taking and planing to take on some imagined external enemy.

And yes Beck/Fox is the same they project all their own desires on other and try to play up fear of these things. This should be obvious, however many dimwitted are seemingly duped.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:50 PM
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10. .
For anyone who may have missed it.

:bounce:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 08:24 PM
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11. Soros is so correct about this. Beck is absolutely obsessed with
George Soros. He has said some of the vilest things about him, accused him of collaborating with the Nazis as a 14 year old boy, eg, and Soros is right, it would be funny if there were not people who believe him. I have been on a board where Beck fans are absolutely convinced that Beck is telling the truth about Soros and no matter how much evidence you present to them, the real history of Soros' past with the Nazis, they absolutely refuse to accept it.

Some of them are even nice people and have suggested to me that I watch him and I will see that he 'doesn't want us to take his word for anything, he always tells us to do our own research'. I have presented them with facts from Soro's past in direct contradiction to Beck's ravings, but it doesn't do any good for some reason.

Our media is such a failure as far as doing its job of educating people and they really have nowhere to go to get beyond the propaganda we are constantly subjected to.

Wish I had gotten here in time to rec this, but :kick: for more exposuer.
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