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thomhartmann (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 12:13 PM Original message |
Thom Hartmann & Neil Howe: Are we in the Fourth Turning? |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I had no idea of the ages |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It's sickening watching society slip backwards |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 01:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. My grandmother always said |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Sorry Boomer.......... |
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wxgeek7 (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
5. More here |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes. I'm reading the book right now. The end chapters are too |
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Morizovich (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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GillesDeleuze (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. sorry thom, but thats new age revisionist crap |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sorry Gille, you are spouting rude crap. Do you have anything real to say?. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Actually this is somewhat simiplified and americanized |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Oswald Spengler was another one |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. No, it is not. It is EXACTLY what is happening. In one of the seven |
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CleanGreenFuture (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Check out my thead from the other day on The Fourth Turning. Includes the excerpt |
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neoralme (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I wrote the exact same passage a few days ago. The timetables |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. So glad Gen Y is coming along--they do not seem to be Repukes. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. It seems like a fairly plausible consequence of human nature and human lifespan. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
13. A Pete Peterson fan -- then he is not for me. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. How about Toynbee? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Yes, I agree with the theory that history is in its broad outlines, cyclical. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. If you read the Fourth Turning it works |
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CleanGreenFuture (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Thanks, Thom. Was listening today and the other day when this came up. Started a thread |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Strauss & Howe's earlier book is worth reading, too. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. Thom, is Raw Story misquoting him as saying "No" when you ask him about war and depression? |
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soryang (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
23. Give me a break! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Think about this as an americanized toynbee |
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craigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-30-11 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
26. I just finished reading the 4th turning and that scenario is so on point it's scary. |
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