HORSES USED AS WEAPONS!-Protesters document NYPD horses ramming in Times Sq.

[kpete]

Run time: 04:09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS2x7T926Z4   Posted on YouTube: October 15, 2011 By YouTube Member: KnewWorldNoing Views on YouTube: 270   Posted on DU: October 16, 2011 By DU Member: kpete Views on DU: 4067

 
They brought horses in, to ram the protesters. They used the horses as weapons and you can hear and see the people shrieking for the police to stand down, which of course they didn't do. And as you see, the horses were assisted by the riot troops


......... the mounted police 'pumping' almost obscenely up and down, to force their horses into the crowds.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/16/1026956/-Protesters-document-NYPD-horses-ramming-in-Times-Sq-make-this-video-viral-UPDATE:-new-video?via=siderec

[provis99]

1. the cops are flat out abusing the horses.

Horses won't go into a wall of people; that's the reason the Redcoats used to form squares when faced by a cavalry charge.

These cops should be charged with assaulting police officers (horses are considered cops too).

[Hawkowl]

2. Au contraire

You can very easily train a horse to charge through people. Not all horses but most of them. Horses have been weapons for thousands of years.

I also have to add that the police showed remarkable restraint and that the young man's claims were ridiculous. I have personally seen the Chicago police canter their horses headlong into crowds and literally run people down. This is quite tame and the guy commenting highly annoying.

[EFerrari]

6. Children have been used as soldiers, too. So what.

It's still abuse.

Having those animals in that crowd at all is fucking abusive and the NYPigD should be cited for each horse they put through this shit last night.

[Hawkowl]

9. Oh nonsense

If you knew anything about horses, you could see by the horses expressions that they were unconcerned at worst, and curious at best. Superbly trained, most looked quite relaxed.

They were just standing there. Why don't your peruse Youtube a bit and I am sure you can see some examples of unrestrained uses of horses against crowds. That should wake you the fuck up.

[EFerrari]

15. LOL.

I live on a horse ranch where people are training their show horses 7 days a week.



lmao

[Hawkowl]

24. Apparently

I'm sorry that you have learned so little.

[EFerrari]

25. Oh, save it.

I can't imagine anything more irresponsible than riding a horse into an excited crowd of strangers and in bad light at that. It's a good thing no one was good with a knife, Officer Asshole.

[Hawkowl]

26. Limited imagination.

And I believe you are an asshole as I am not an officer.

[JDPriestly]

36. My grandfather always carried cubes of sugar in his pockets for his horses.

They love to munch on sugar. Wonder if the protestors could do that.

The horses were quite in appropriate for crowd control with that group which is unarmed and basically peaceful.

The police are trying to incite violence. That's the truth, short and simple.

[provis99]

27. have you even seen a horse in person?

Because you don't have a clue about horses.

[Hawkowl]

34. Indeed

I have two of my own and spend 5 days out of 7 riding horses in multiple disciplines.

[Autumn]

3. Horses have been trained for battle for

centuries.

[EFerrari]

7. So what?

[Autumn]

13. I just made a comment to the first poster, I don't agree with it

horses have been trained for battle and they will go through a line of people. I don't think they should be used for that, and as a person who has horses I sure as hell wouldn't want them in a situation being used to control people. The horses can be injured and a horse can do a hell of lot of damage to a person. I have an adorable 2 year old gelding and he is very playful, I was out in the pasture and he was following me and just being a colt he hit my shoulder with his face and gave it a fracture. He was just being playful, he wasn't spooked or in a dangerous, confusing situation.

[EFerrari]

17. Exactly. I have two that follow me like puppies.

That was too dangerous a situation to take a horse to and for no reason. Anything could have happened to them. The PD were way out of line.

[KurtNYC]

29. Horses are pretty standard in Times Square

even when there is no march, just crowds.

What's really amazing is that they have trained the horses not to poop in the middle of 100,000 people -- that way Times Square can stay cleaner than Zucotti Park.*



* I kid.

[JDPriestly]

37. My view of horses is that, while they are very obedient if well trained,

they are essentially rather awkward. They are great for parades, and they were used in battle, but there is a reason that they generally aren't used in crowded situations any more. They are very large and while that is intimidating to people who haven't been around them very much, they don't have a small turning radius, and can be caused to trip or stumble. That is why people used to have accidents while riding horses.

It really is not a good idea to use horses in controlling crowds of that size. If you had just a couple of people who knew a lot about horses (not likely in New York I suppose), the horses could become quite a liability for their riders.

[emcguffie]

28. millennia?

[civilisation]

4. unfair to those horses,. NYPD should be ashamed. Grow a pair, guys.

looks like empire,. send in the horses,. and crush those peasants.

[EFerrari]

5. Add animal abuse to their horrible behavior.

Pigs.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

8. The problem occurs when you have to take away/disable the weapon

Taking out a dog is fairly easy if you have the right training. Horses are a bit more work without a spear or sword.

[HereSince1628]

16. I don't think the protestors have wanted or want to be confrontational

And of course actual confrontation with a mounted cop or their horse would be considered criminal and probably would be vigorously prosecuted.

[bengalherder]

10. Horse whisperers to the front....

Horses are pretty bright. I don't think they like this, even though they have the training.


Talk to our equine brothers and sisters and calm them and ask them to revolt against the violence as well...!

[unionworks]

14. Calling Mr. Ed

Thank you that put a smile on my face. Btw I apologize for accidentaly unreccing. I was using my android and the button on the screen is microscopic. I compensate with a "kick" (not a mule kick!)

[Cleita]

11. The very first anti-Vietnam protest I went to in Los

Angeles, Century City to be exact, the LAPD thrashed through the peacefully demonstrating crowd with its mounted unit injuring many people in the wake with horses that were panicked. I was not hurt. The backlash was so virulent, they never used them again for mob control. I hope the citizens of NYC scream loudly and clearly about this abuse to both human and beast.

[EFerrari]

18. I sent this video to the ASPCA in NY and will be calling and writing.

If the police want to be brutes that's their choice. The horses shouldn't be put in that situation. That's just ridiculous for them, let alone for the public.

[Cleita]

19. Thanks. That's what needs to be done. n/t

[EFerrari]

20. On Twitter, NY office is @ASPCA.

[peacebird]

12. Standard ops for fascist cops. They did same at antiwar march - even with babies in strollers.

Disgusting.

[MichiganVote]

21. Recall Bloomberg. He started it, he can be the finish.

[cui bono]

22. I was about 30 feet away from this. Did not know it was happening at the time.

It was really hard to see much beyond where you were standing. I did see the riot cops and mounted cops arrive. They were there a while before anything happened.

I overheard someone talking about what had happened. They had been up there, it was at 46th street and just above it, you can see the red and white stripes of the TGIF. So I asked him about it. He said that a cop was moving a barricade so the protestors were going to go through and then the cops hit the protestors with batons and rode the horses towards the crowd causing protestors to get kicked by them.

Now that I see the video I think I recall that yelling... I remember my area was chanting along with the crowd behind me when I heard really loud chanting coming from the front which I think was the chanting we hear in this video. At the time I couldn't make it out.

"Get those animals off those horses!"

[iamthebandfanman]

23. personally, i feel bad for the horses..

ive always felt terribe sorrow for animals used in these types of ways...

hell i dont even like to watch movies with battles horses are involved in.. they are always the first casualties :(

[DCofVA]

30. I like the protester that was petting the horse on the nose

That's like something I would do. But, I agree with most of the posters here; animals should never be used for crowd control!

[mistertrickster]

31. The expression "to ride roughshod over" comes from the medieval practice of

shoeing the horses with spiked horseshoes and literally stomping the victims to death by running over them.

[mistertrickster]

32. Quick . . . send the OWS boxes of sugar cubes and carrots. nt

[cui bono]

33. Democracy Now! has good coverage of this incident:

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/10/17/stream

http://www.democracynow.org/

[Devil_Fish]

35. I just sent an abuse report to www.peta.org

I just sent an abuse report to www.peta.org