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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:18 PM
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FOX NEWS Accuses OWS as Anti-Semite
 
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:33 PM
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1. O liely looks in the mirror, but fails to recognize self. K&R NT
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 10:55 PM
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2. Jeez, they are really desperate. They'll try anything to keep their viewers in the dark.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 06:58 AM
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28. Here's another piece of desperation: Media's been pushing Kalle Lasn as the 'great organizer' of OWS
That's something I've noticed within only the past few days myself, but had me a little concerned.
From what I know, a lot of people who DO know about the guy seem to think well of him, but........I know this may seem strange to some, but I uncovered a URL that linked to a Canadian Post story about Lasn's comparing Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto. I decided to do a little more searching and it went from there; one particular thing of note was his idiotic half-truths, B.S., etc. concerning the Neo-Cons:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/10/13/occupy-wall-street-kalle-lasn/
(WARNING: this is written from the perspective of possible conservative TPTB puppet Alana Goodman, who made a few mistakes writing this article particularly in claiming that Lasn was the main organizer of the movement. I can tell you right now he was most assuredly NOT. That honor appears to go to Micah White, and possibly Bill Schmalz, and a few others whose names I can't recall at the moment.)

And then there was this misinformed little article he posted on Gaza(from Saeed Mohammad), comparing it to the WARSAW GHETTO of all things:

http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/83/gaza.html(I do sympathize with the Palestinians, but..........they could have it much worse)

Perhaps he's not one of those EXTREME Jew-haters, but I am concerned that certain of his past writings & actions could soon be used as a major weapon against us by TPTB, and their RW puppets, especially due to the misinformation, and DISinformation being propagated by Goodman, Kristol, et al. and given all that, I do wonder if this guy may in fact be a useful tool by TPTB????

Just putting my 2 cents out there; I feel these concerns and questions are valid, even if some may not agree with everything I've said here.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:01 PM
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3. Bill O'Liely
and Fuck's noise.
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:11 PM
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4. Jews In OWS


This proves that Jewish liberals are in full force at those peaceful marches.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 02:55 AM
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24. +1!
Thanks for posting this! :thumbsup:
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 09:39 AM
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29. Send that link to other web sites
... in order to prove how wrong the far right is when they say there is rampant anti-Semitism at those patriotic rallies.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 04:23 AM
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31. Definitely!
It's just an underhanded way to try and stir up trouble... :grr:
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 06:39 AM
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26. Glad to see that!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:14 PM
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32. Yep. I remember that picture.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:14 PM
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5. This, from the network that promoted Mel Gibson's 'The jews killed our Lord" film nonstop
I can remember Hannity gushing over his good friend Mel, and he just couldn't figure out how 'all of these politically correct liberals" had a problem with the Passion.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-11 11:39 PM
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6. Projection. It's the 1%ers' and quislings' stock in trade.
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:03 AM
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7. OWS was endorsed by the American Nazi party
At least that's what' s been going around the right wing echo chamber.

So I expect to hear more of this.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 02:16 AM
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9. It has been endorsed by the American Nazi Party.
There will be some who try to use it to their advantage, but it is a distraction. It is sad though, because it is yet another use of anti-Semitism which will be used by and ignored by all the wrong people.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 09:14 AM
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18. who are the right wing kidding, they are nazi-like
they should take a deep look upon themselves.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 06:38 AM
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25. Sadly, Rocky Suhayda DID make the call for WNs to infiltrate the movement.....
Here's the quote:

"What is really MISSING – is the “MOVEMENT” from these pop­u­lar protests – its time to pull WN heads out of their col­lec­tive ass’s, and JOIN IN the attack on Judeo-Capitalism. What do you sug­gest? That WN Work­ing Class White peo­ple DEFEND the Judeo-Capitalists? IF the “move­ment” wasn’t so PATHETIC it would be OUT THERE – LEADING these protests! The fact that its these “left­ies” as you call them, who are pick­ing up the ball and run­ning with it – only shows how much more in tune THEY are with the fed up masses of White Work­ers, than the fos­silized, reac­tionary “right-wing”. WHO holds the WEALTH and POWER in this coun­try – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO is there­fore the #1 ENEMY who makes all this filth hap­pen – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO there­fore do WN need to FIGHT? My heart is right there with these peo­ple, per­haps some­day the “move­ment” will SHOW the same COURAGE and DEDICATION that these peo­ple OUT THERE FIGHTING are SHOWING!

Sin­cerely, ROCKY SUHAYDA Hail Vic­tory! 88!"

Can't help but wonder if the TPTB are going to be purposefully using people like Suhayda to try to paint all of us who support the movement as a bunch of anti-Semites, therefore providing a way of discrediting our movement(Too damn convenient for TPTB and their RW puppets & shills, if you ask me.).

Also, here's another interesting tidbit........this lunatic hatemonger even claimed to 'support'(please note the quotation marks) Obama. From Esquire:

""White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I’d prefer the negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of America by illegals--basically a continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion, is married to a black women--when usually negroes who have 'made it' immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize--that’s the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it’s good for all racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It’d be poetic justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern Sodom and Gomorrah."

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/racists-support-obama-061308#ixzz1bE72boEN"

Sounds like he was trying to discredit Obama to me. Now, thankfully, it didn't work then, so I fervently hope that Suhayda and any other RW extremist jerkoff who tries that kind of covert discreditation will fail miserably with O.W.S. as well. Because if not, we are in a LOT of trouble if they succeed.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 12:24 AM
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8. Does Goldberg reallly think...
that its just black people who are stating what this woman was stating? People of all races state many things but every since Obama has become President everyrhing seems ro relate to black people and Barack Obama no matter the issue. Exhibir no.1 Michael Steele. Exhibit no.2 Herman Cain.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 02:23 AM
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10. Check your sniffer.
It's out of whack. Here's something which may come as a surprise to you, but anti-Semitism is a very real thing. I am actually surprised there hasn't been more anti-Semitism. Yes, there will be a few kooks which the right will hold up as "proof" the movement is anti-Semitic; it's a distraction. Sadder still is how it will be used by the left who will claim it is a distraction too when other issues of anti-Semitism emerge.
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sulphurdunn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 05:59 AM
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12. Yes, anti-semetism is real.
Its origin is as dark and ignorant as the Dark Age that spawned it, and yes, it's a wonder there isn't more of it. Especially, with the well funded and orchestrated "cry wolf" attacks directed at anyone of anything daring to criticize the actions of right-wing Jewish political organizations, fundamentalist religious sects or the Israeli state.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 06:00 AM
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13. Thank you for your example.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 10:31 AM
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19. And for yours.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:19 PM
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20. As well as your constant "contributions."
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freedom fighter jh Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 06:37 AM
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14. Antisemitism is real. So is infiltration.
Which of those this is is not immediately apparent, at least not to me.

Antisemitism in a movement, even a movement for a good cause, makes most people run the other way. Gee, isn't it easy to get those occupiers' numbers down!

The PTB are so scared of the Occupy movement that they'll do anything to slow it down. Just find someone who's desperate enough for money to say these awful things while identifying with the movement. Or find some nutcase who is saying them already (while identifying with the movement) and shine the spotlight on that person. Even if it is real antisemitism, that doesn't mean the movement itself is antisemitic, only that some of its members are.

I'd hate to see the Occupy movement discredited over this.

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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 01:33 PM
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21. We should not be enabling this.
This is a character assassination by a network that has no weapons it can fire upon a grassroots moment. Let us not enable the rays of progressive social change with the bullshit arguments that have have been perpetuated by a network that lies daily, hourly, and possibly even every minute it is on the air.

OWS is not antisemetic. This is about socioeconomics. This is the opposite of mideavil Europe. Nobility and royalty used 'beards' there to function in order to increase the wealth of the royalty. Of course they would also happily scapegoat the hell out of Jewish people whenever they could if only to distract from the outrages they themselves committed against the people they ruled. This is a twisted mirror version now in which corporations and banks are claiming and clinging to a beard to suggest that they are somehow more Jewish than those protesting and that somehow by assaulting them that the protestors are anti semeitc.

Do not be fooled by this.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 04:27 AM
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11. That's BO's reasoning though.
Thousands of Christians can take part in the Crusades but they're not violent. Hundreds of Teabaggers perpetuate racism but they're not racist. A few Muslims perpetrate violent and they're all violent. It all depends on who he likes.

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civilisation Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 07:49 AM
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15. Criticism of the state of Israel in not biggetry.
It is justified to criticise a violent oppressive regime.

The video showed three times I believe a sign reading "end the fed" and it had some symbols of Israel,. I read that as stop funding and protecting a violent apartheid state. You can not be a religious state and a democracy. You can not organize violent oppression of a people, push them off their land, build on it,. and expect any of the worlds people to respect you as an organization or state. Zionism in its worst forms is a militant religious nationalism that has proven very destructive. Opposing Zionism in not bigotry, it is standing against a broken ideology. There are many Jews that oppose Zionism.
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calilama Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 08:50 AM
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16. Delegitimization of Israel is anti-semitism
Martin Luther King correctly noted that criticizing Israels policy's is legitimate but denial of her right to exist is anti semitic......calling israel an apartheid state and denying its clear democracy is over the top given the fact that a substantial amount of Arab Israelis move through israeli society in a fashion (including elected representation in the Knesset) far different than than the true apartheid of South Africa. Palestinians were displaced because of several wars of extermination launched against Israel by hostile neighbors in violation of all notions of law and human decency. They remain displaced because of corrupt Arab regimes that sought political gain from maintaining the plight of Palestinians as a political buffer to their totalitarian regimes. Israeli policy has often been misguided and stupid but it is hardly a South African oppression of an indigenous population.

800,000 Jews were displaced from arab countries all across the middle east when jordon and egypt launched an unprovoked attack on the nascent state of israel in 1948. There have been jews and arabs living side by side in israel and judea for THOUSANDS of years.there will be a two state solution soon enough and all will welcome it.

OWS is not anti semitic..we can certainly agree on that!!!!!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 04:59 PM
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23. But it sure as hall can be, and not just anti-Semitism.
Edited on Tue Oct-18-11 05:00 PM by Behind the Aegis
Regionalism. Look it up.

ETA: Also look up zionism on something other than an anti-Semitic or bigoted propaganda site, you obviously don't know the meaning of that word.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:35 PM
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33. +1000, well played
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-11 09:13 AM
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17. Using a False Charge of Anti-Semiticism to shut down criticism of Israel
Edited on Tue Oct-18-11 09:31 AM by fascisthunter
pretty sick behavior considering anti-semitism and bigotry has harmed so many. To trivialize it's meaning to shut down dissent is not only transparent but equally disturbing.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 06:42 AM
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27. I've been hearing that, and also, the Occupy Atlanta movement is being called racist
due to the Rep. John Lewis snub and lack of minorities participating.
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-11 11:05 AM
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30. Thats just projection from the American Nazi Party-Teapublicans /nt
Edited on Wed Oct-19-11 11:05 AM by workinclasszero
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