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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:48 PM
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Cenk Uygur at Occupy Wall Street: '$600 Trillion in Bets'
 
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According to a new Wall Street Journal article almost 40% of the wealth across the globe is controlled by millionaires and billionaires. The Young Turks host Cenk Uygur shares his take from Occupy Wall Street in New York City.
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Andrew_Writer Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:51 PM
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1. nice
nice
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:59 PM
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2. Welcome to DU, Andrew_Writer.
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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:10 PM
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3. K&R
Thanks for the post Hissyspit
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:19 PM
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4. r&k
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:34 PM
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5. 'We're headed for a disaster'
Trillions, hundreds of trillions of dollars. He is saying what all the economic experts I have been following around the world, are saying. Some call it 'a Financial WMD headed towards the US'. It's an economic war against the people. I only hope that OWS is not shut down. Today I saw a report that said that every time there is a financial disaster like this, they oligarchs start a war. He backed it up with historical facts.

He said, in response to the question 'where will the next war begin then, if history is going to repeat itself'? He said 'why do you think they 'caught' some Iranians supposedly plotting to kill a few diplomats in the US'? He also said that if they start another war, they will 'shut down OWS'.

I hope he's wrong, but from what has been going on with the EU, it's clear they are desperate and are out of options, now just trying to ward off the inevitable.

Great Video from Cenk.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:40 AM
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7. Let those big banks fail; let them suck up their losses
whatever happened to "personal accountability"? The banks are making those bets, not we the people. If they lose, we should stick the decision makers with the bill. Seems simple enough; we'll just have to see if the world's governments are tough enough to stand up to them (as Iceland has).
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:48 AM
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8. Yes, they should have been allowed to fail long ago.
But then, who was going allow that? From what we are learning, it is big Banks and Multi-National Corps who are running the world. Until that is changed, they will continue to bail themselves out and continue to bill the world's people for their gambling debts. Greece is on the verge of Revolution right now. And they are only the first.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 02:56 AM
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9. That is if we decide to believe in these voodoo bets. That is if
we continue to believe in this crazy idea of economics. Money and these derivative bets, which are just bets on paper, thought up by people, cannot be "unthought" of by people. Why should we believe that these "bets" should mean anything? Money only has the power we give it. Wall St and the corporate model we currently have is only because we give power to it. People who live day to day in their lives doing and creating real labor and real work products are the true wealth. These fancy derivative bets on packaged mortgages that were toxic to begin with can be thrown out with the old bath water. Each mortgage needs to be evaluated. Who owns it? What is the "real" value, and who should the person in "ownership" be paying too? I believe its past the time we rely on the Fed Reserve, which is private banks to begin with, and start owning our own wealth. If we control our own wealth, we would not be borrowing and paying an interest on the money borrowed. There are like 4 or 5 countries in the world that own their own wealth.. that are not a part of the global financing mechanism. Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Lybia (was), and Iraq (was). They are a threat to the global financing powers by not putting their people into the world debtor scheme.

I would say that OWS is great. Its happening around the world. People are rejecting the notion that they shouldn't have the basic necessities of life. People reject the notion that they shouldn't have access to education. Why? Why should access to educating oneself more and more be limited to financial constraints.. and why must a job be limited to an academic degree. I know some people that are more self-educated by themselves, than any University could have helped them with, but because a degree keeps them from even qualifying for the position to be interviewed, they are stuck with a lower status of class. AND if you can't afford to go into major debt for the college degree, then you are stuck with a lower status of class. How is this ok? Why is this ok? Many of the people who have discovered or created or explored or have done in our past history, were self-sustaining, inquisitive, and well rounded individuals.

Given that the OWS movement is questioning the very basic premise of the status quo, why should we believe that these foreign ideas of derivatives should have ill harm on the most of us who did not engage in crazy betting schemes in the banking/ insurance agencies? Why should the world "burn" because of intangible numbers on some computer keeping scores. Why should people around the world all of a sudden go into a massive tailspin of disorder and chaos because of these crazy betting schemes that are now triple the global wealth of the world. Who is supposedly going to pay on the mark? There isn't enough money you could pretend to squeeze from the peons to cover the bets. It doesn't make sense. It makes more sense to figure out a more enlightened path forward that deals with humanity as worldwide citizens, rather than commodities/ consumers.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 04:46 AM
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11. Excellant Post
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:57 AM
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13. Thanks.. time to reject the notion of doom and gloom and fear.
Time to hop forward on the train of enlightenment.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 12:49 AM
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6. K&R!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 03:20 AM
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10. K&R
Why would ANYONE advocate such a system?
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:04 AM
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12. Great video. K&R.
It ain't over yet.
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