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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:15 PM
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Poll question: Temperature Check (So to Speak)
Assuming the primaries were to be held tomorrow, who would you vote for in the Democratic Presidential Primary?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:17 PM
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1. F**k if I know, but I'm NOT happy with my choices so far. nt
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:18 PM
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2. Please expand upon your answer
What is it that you would like to see?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:25 PM
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3. No, I'm not going there.
Of those choices presented, Dennis, John, and Barack look the most presentable, Dennis is the one I most agree with at this point, and I will most likely vote for him if I get a chance, but the other two have merits and they are better than the other offerings so far.

The problem is that the political discourse in the country is so corrupted that one cannot really discuss what one wants without going into a long circumambulation through other issues to avoid being misunderstood, and I'm not going to try to fix it here.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:27 PM
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5. OK...thanks for the reply...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:39 AM
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33. Me either.
Too many flip-floppers, triangulators, corporatists, followed up by those who couldn't win if their lives depended on it.

No one of real substance, but with a "tough guy" persona (I wish that didn't matter) that can win the white male swing voters in the South and mid-West.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:26 PM
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4. I'd Write-In Al Gore. n/t
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:32 PM
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6. Gore as a write-in n/t
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:40 PM
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7. Not much love
For Hillary, Dodd, Biden or Gravel so far...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:42 PM
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8. Unsure.
But I think that there is the potential for a good primary campaign, and that we will end up with a strong candidate.
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:44 PM
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9. Kucinich! Kucinich! Kucinich!
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:45 PM
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10. Tell me how you REALLY feel...lol
:patriot:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:49 PM
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11. Other: Al Gore. nt
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 07:59 PM
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12. Kucinch and Edwards so far...
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:20 PM
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13. No Dodd or Biden suppoters out there?
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:38 PM
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20. I Like Biden
In fact, I would be happy with just about any of them. But I am backing Edwards right now.

Still, my respect for Biden increased when he voted "yes" on the recent Iraq funding. I think I understand why he did it, and it wasn't really capitualation. I think it was a show of courage on Biden's part to deliberately piss off the base in a primary when he was already behind.

But then, I have funny ideas about what constitutes political courage.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:20 PM
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14. Other - Gore
Why din't you give a choice of other? If you had, I would have voted in your poll.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:22 PM
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15. I'm Sorry...I thought that was what write in was for...
Since some popular folks who have yet to make a bid have such a strong support out there...
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:29 PM
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16. write-in does not equal other
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:38 PM
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19. I guess I'm stupid
How does write-in not equal "Other"?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:48 PM
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23. A write-in is what is listed on a ballot
At least on paper ballots. I don't know how it's done on the corrupt black boxes.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:31 PM
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17. Gore write in (n/t)
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:34 PM
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18. Write in: Gore
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:44 PM
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21. Kucinich? Tomorrow? You're delusional.
Kucinich may well be the most qualified, on-message, consistent, focussed and principled candidate there is.

But, at the moment he has NO "star quality", no recognition or enough memorable "sound bites" out there.

WE all know he he has these qualities.

I know it's shallow, irrelevant and inconsequential, but....

Does... the public... know?????

I submit that he doesn't. And won't have tomorrow.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:48 PM
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22. Unfortunately I am forced to agree
with you...

He has been marginalized not only by the MSM, but by leaders of Congress as well...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:52 PM
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24. You need only look at the Cheney impeachment bill
Where is it now? Dead, that's where.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:57 PM
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25. That is what
I meant by being marginalized by Congress...bunch of friggin cowards...
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 08:32 AM
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29. Not delusional. Visionary.
Any nominated Dem is going to be dogpiled by the MSM, but will get plenty of camera time with which to manufacture sound bites. Voting Kucinich in a primary is a long shot, of course, but there's nothing delusional in it.

Insisting that he will win would be. :hippie:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:43 AM
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34. I hope you're right
But if the media turns on him like Gore in 2000, it'll be a disaster.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:48 AM
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37. He will be an easy target.
They will ignore him and roll their eyes when his name is mentioned. They'll call him weird, and they will be correct, but he is the sort of weird we need.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:25 PM
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53. The media turns on *EVERY* Democrat; accept it. Kucinich is no different...
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 06:28 PM by Tesha
The media turns on *EVERY* Democrat; accept it. Kucinich
is no different than Kerry in that regard, or Gore before
him, or Dukakis, or Mondale, or Carter...

(Clinton's a special case; he provided an infinite series
of scandal stories; they never actually "turned" on him.)

Tesha
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:58 PM
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56. Thats bull
They fawn all over Obama & Clinton and they never shut up about them, that is because in REALITY they are the LEAST popular candidates.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:31 PM
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62. Were you not paying attention during Dean/Kerry?
> Thats bull
>
> They fawn all over Obama & Clinton and they never shut up about them,
> that is because in REALITY they are the LEAST popular candidates.

Were you not paying *ANY* attention during Dean/Kerry in 2004?

They fawn over a Democratic candidate until they decide to
destroy them. Then some bullshit story (like the "Dean scream"
gets constant airplay until the candidacy is dead). And the
same sort of thing happened with Kerry. He was the new
golden boy until he was nominated; then he was destroyed.

They do it to *EVERY* Democratic candidate.

Tesha
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:37 AM
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31. Delusional? No. Realistic.
The reality is that "star quality" is not what will provide the leadership, the principles, and the willingness to take action that this country desperately needs.

It's the most principled, focused, on-message, consistent candidate that will.

If voters had a fraction of those qualities, they wouldn't cast their vote for anything less.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 08:38 PM
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58. I must apologize, I misread the OP
The question was who would YOU vote for, not who would win.

Kucinich is the most sensible candidate to vote for.

That he has the best chance of winning is not what was asked.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:42 AM
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61. It's an odd catch-22, isn't it?
If everyone voted for the "most sensible candidate," then he would easily win. He does not have the "best chance" because voters don't have the courage to walk their own talk, and put their votes where their issues lie.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:45 AM
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35. I am terribly sorry,
but I must agree with your assessment.

Nevertheless, I can only vote my conscience and, between now and the primary,talk to as many people as I can.

The Majority has never been known as having much of a brain...
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Nunyabiz Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:56 PM
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55. actually that is BS
What Kucinich doesn't have is the backing of the Reich wing Mainstream Media because he is BY FAR the most qualified candidate.

We need to stop following along like lemmings what the MSM are leading us to do.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 08:41 PM
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59. You are correct. Read my post above
Sometimes (actually most of the time) the presidential candidate is NOT the most intelligent choice.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:10 PM
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26. Calling all Dodd and Biden supporters....
Show your support!

























Chirp, Chirp, Chirp...
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:52 AM
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63. What? Nobody registered here under username "MBNA"? Or "Citigroup"??? (NT)
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:18 PM
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27. Kucinich Pulls Ahead!!!!!
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 08:13 AM
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28. Still Leading...
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:33 AM
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30. This is too easy.
For his record and platform, which put him light-years ahead of the rest:

Dennis Kucinich.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:38 AM
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32. LOL! I was going to say 71 degrees.
:rofl:

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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:48 AM
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36. DK is electable, If you vote for him!!
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:02 PM
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38. Interesting results so far. n/t
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:49 PM
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39. I would have thought Brack and Hillary would have done better...
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:51 PM
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40. As you conveniently left out Gravel, DK was the obvious choice. Oops!
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 03:56 PM by The Count
I just noticed him there. Well, it's one of those two in this bunch, so I stand by my DK vote.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:57 PM
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42. What?
Edited on Sat Jun-02-07 03:58 PM by edwardsguy
:wtf:

LOL...saw your edit now...
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:52 PM
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41. I'd write in Al
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:02 PM
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43. I'll keep voting for DK until he's no longer a choice.
A vote for Dennis is a vote for sanity.


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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:04 PM
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44. He seems to be in
A comanding lead here on DU anyway!!!

Even thought I am a JE supporter, I could definatley go for DK
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:46 PM
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49. I want to like JE, but he just keeps offering too many corporate welfare solutions to the
problems they themselves have created for us.


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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:25 PM
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45. I hope this poll rings true with most voters
If so we will be enjoying a great Kucinich presidency.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:33 PM
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47. only time will tell my friend...
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:30 PM
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46. The 3 percenters.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:45 PM
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48. Clark!
Go, Wes!
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:14 PM
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50. So if these results are typical
Of progressive Dem's, why do Hillary and Obama keep getting so much play in the polls? Is it purely name recognition and star quality?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:33 PM
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51. Dennis Kucinich n/t
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:18 PM
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52. Al
if he'd agree to serve.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:51 PM
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54. 24hrs now and still no
Dodd or Biden supporters out there...

Pack it up Joe and Chris...it's over
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 07:01 PM
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57. Gore write in n/t
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 09:09 PM
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60. DK!
:bounce:
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:57 AM
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64. LOL @ the results.
Too funny.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 07:57 AM
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65. Very, Very Blissfully Uncomitted
And I plan to stay that way. Each candidate said something of value, but there's none that I'm "In love" with...so much so as to get excited about still almost a year out of the first primary and over a year from the election. What was said last night made good stuff for CNN to fill time with, but in a month or even a week, what was said last night will mean little.

Other than turning this election into a reality show, these early debates are little more than cute little exercizes in rhetoric.
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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:38 AM
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67. I too see the "Reality" portion of this
early campaign season...

I am just waiting for some network to begin the "Text Voting" sometime soon...
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 08:08 AM
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66. Agree more with the Kooch but voted Edwards as he is most
likely to win in the general erection for which the media is already pushing massive doses of Viagra. It's really disgusting and takes time away from things like, say, running the country, ending the war, saving our constitution, impeaching criminals and etc. Gore is right. This is too much and too soon, like Christmas decorations in June.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:39 AM
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68. I know who I would vote for, but no money or volunteer hours till I see more. nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 10:40 AM
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69. Unless Gore gets in, Kucinich will win every DU primary poll for the next 16 months.
If Gore does get in, they'll be tied for first in every DU poll.

I've seen this before... :)
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