*****official GOP debate thread 5*******

[AlCzervik]

previous thread here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1049212&mesg_id=1049212

[LSK]

1. did that guys question totally disprove Rudy's answer regarding drugs???

Isnt Spain a country with socialized medicine?

[AlCzervik]

2. i think so.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Full of shit on health care - Bring em on - we win this issue Big time !

[Seen the light]

3. Mexico a third-world country?

I haven't heard that one...

[DesertRat]

6. yeah it is. n/t

[Seen the light]

28. You sure?

I just tried googling it and every source I've come across has said that Mexico is not one (it's an NIC.)

[MadBadger]

11. Well if Miami is like one...

Or at least Tancredo thinks so.

[Colobo]

4. They are so bad when it comes to health care

[sproutster]

5. Prescription

Gul: Change model for health insurance - gove and employer dominated. ITS YOUR HEALTH you buy your own.Fuck him. Health account. Should be like home and car insurance. Socialized healthcare? When health insurance free, wait to see how expensive it is.

Hunter: Father in law goes to border. %80 drugs that SAVE LIVES made in US coz of free enterprise. Maybe they drill dry, then later find special. They sell here then go to third world. Need to buy insurance across statelines. States lock up insurance - able to do that bring down costs.

[MadBadger]

7. Sit the fuck down Tommy

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. CCRRRazy hair Tommy

[Bluebear]

18. Clairol Strom Thurmond Deep Auburn #220B

[rusty charly]

25. and he's screaming

angry, angry repukes.

they're so angry.

[OzarkDem]

13. He should know this issue

he was head of CMS.

Only talked about cutting costs, not about providing health care.

[rusty charly]

8. there were no questions on healthcare because

repukes don't care about it.

[Bluebear]

My, Tommy's hair is youthful for being 66

:eyes:

[DesertRat]

that's not hair. n/t

[Colobo]

9. Tommy is loose now!

[AlCzervik]

12. once again, the democrats are sane, these people are just fucking nuts.

and there is no way the americcan public isn't scared when watching these lunatics.

[Old and In the Way]

14. Great Responses!

Can't wait for the "winner" to run on these answers.

Duncan's old man goes to Mexico to break the law and buy his drugs....cool. Kind of funny, Americans going to Mexico to take advantage of that country's social policies.

[Colobo]

15. Tommy is full of shit.

[DesertRat]

16. Romney is very slick.

[rusty charly]

17. Pink Romney.

[BlueStater]

24. He's a six foot tall Oompa Loompa n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Romney will win the nomination.. (health care and good hair)

[MadBadger]

22. I can only hope

[Bluebear]

Romney looks like a lobster!

[AlCzervik]

20. The top sides of Romney's hair--is it me or does he look like some type of chicken?

[Colobo]

21. There comes Romney

[bullwinkle428]

23. Mitt with the classic "I hate gov't., therefore I want to run it!!"

[bullwinkle428]

49. Rudy will send Kerik over there to "beat some morality into them savages"!

:rofl:

[sproutster]

26. Insurance and premiums

(missed name)%60 gross national product - only %70 cost to keep you helthy. Lots of stats. Education re: health probs. 2/3 of healthcare - reduce %50. IT patient bill of rights... paperless.

Romeny -
Concerns in healthcare. Not turn to washington. Need way to insure everyone. Personal responsibility. OMFG... I hate this shit. The market works, personal responsibility works.

[MadBadger]

27. CNN wasted money on those nice chairs

Nobody sits in them!

[AlCzervik]

29. a republican Philosophy Prof?

[DesertRat]

32. do they have to be Repubs to ask q's?

[AlCzervik]

40. no, it just struck me as kind of funny. The audience is I or R.

[Colobo]

34. He might not be Republican, maybe Independent

[Party Line]

52. I've never met one.

I don't think everybody in the audience is a RW'er. Certainly not the guy w/ the massive dreads.

[rusty charly]

30. most pressing moral issue?

iraq.

[Colobo]

31. Romney, like the others, is full of shit.

[Bluebear]

33. Huckabee is a minister? Yet he makes fun of people incessantly?

Like the Clinton cracks? Oh, my.

[Colobo]

41. He's a Fundie.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. you go, Huck

[Bluebear]

44. delete

.

[Seen the light]

59. Delete

Not sure why it posted to you.

[AlCzervik]

36. so right Huckabee, you only in when the fetus is in utereo, once you out, we done.

[TransitJohn]

37. Hahahaha

These fuckers are sunk. There is no way they get more than their base to turn out in '08.......without........ZOMBIE REAGAN!!

[glaeken777]

38. i don't agree with pro-life but...

I respect Huckabee's answer insofar that it's a seamless garment arguement ala Cardinal Bernadin. Surprising to hear a Baptist preach it.

[OzarkDem]

You aren't?

Ok.

[DesertRat]

39. Huckabee said we care about children as long as they are in the womb.

Yup. then once they are born, forget it!

[rusty charly]

42. rudila is mayor of what city, again?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

50. was - and NYC doesn't like him anymore

[rusty charly]

83. i was joking

and we never liked him.

ever.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

101. well, who the hell does like him? the mysterious "general

public" who all they know is what they saw on tv? him walking around like he was in charge? What will they do when they hear about how he led all the rescue workers to their current health problems?

Hey, you wouldn't happen to want 4 Yankee tickets for friday night, would you. We were supposed to go and had to cancel??? Face or bo

[rusty charly]

145. i answered your PM

i'm in NJ (on the shore!) this weekend

:(

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. Freedom to cheat on your wife, Rude-y

[DesertRat]

47. freedom to wear a dress if you want to

[Bluebear]

Ghouliani: God has given us great gitfts! Like freedom!!

Why didn't God give that gift to everyone?

[MadBadger]

45. Rudy Guiliani is pro Inquisition

Forcing your morals on others by the use of force

[LSK]

46. Communism fell because Reagan convinced people

Not because it was a failed system for 50 years.

:rofl:

[Colobo]

48. Rudy is a beacon of morality.

:sarcasm:

[TransitJohn]

51. Ghouli

Just trotted out Reagan....and said we're friends with Russians......pretty ironic considering the news of today.

[symbolman]

53. GHOULIANI

Thinks the CONSTITUTION IS GOD..

He says all those RIghts CAME from GOD..

NUTSO!

We were at war with Vietnam, Germany, Japan, and NOW we're ALLL BUDDIES!!

Just kill a Million, later they are PALS!!

CRAZY ASSHOLE!

[Blackhatjack]

54. Ron Paul is making it difficult for the others --now pointing out 'preemptive war' mistake...n/t

[Colobo]

55. Paul talking truth!

[MadBadger]

56. Ron Paul Speaking more truth

[bullwinkle428]

57. Rudy will send Kerik over there to "beat some morality into them savages"!

:rofl:

-finally got it in the right place :blush:

[Old and In the Way]

58. PAUL....NAILS IT

#1 MORAL ISSUE...WAGING PRE-EMPTIVE WAR.

[dethl]

60. Yes, culture of life*

*Gays, lesbians, muslims, liberals, soldiers, etc. need not apply.

Ugh....this is making me sick.

[symbolman]

61. CULTURE OF LIFE?

Every LIFE Is SACRED, applies to ALL..

That's why we've killed a FUCKING MILLION PEOPLE In Iraq.. right?

[Colobo]

62. Brownback attacks Rudy

[BlueStater]

63. Oooh, but Ron Paul is the nut

Rudy wants to force other countries to be our friends through the barrel of a gun but Ron Paul is supposedly the crazy one?

[flpoljunkie]

64. Rudy, the "free enterprise" system is not working so well for health care, but big business will be

able to maximize their profits, if they do not have to provide health care. It's more of "your own your own" middle class, from the daddy party who save all their concern for those at the top.

Notice how they are all pouncing on the Democrats' by calling their health care plans "socialized medicine." Yet Blitzer stands there with his finger up his ass--and can't think to remind them that Medicare is "socialized medicine"--and would they willing to stand up right here and right now and say they will do away with Medicare? I think not.

[sproutster]

65. Most pressing moral issue in country today

Huckabee:
Respect, sanctaty and value of every human life (I am laughing my ass off)... Pro life. Misunderstanding only in womb. We have not demonstrated that we value it after womb. (okies agreeing with this part) Should not treat people as expendable. Contrast with Jihads... (hmm what happened at Oklahoma???)

Gul:
We have great gifts from god. Freedom, etc... (laughing again) Challange: are we able to share with rest of world (omfg really laughing now) RONALD REGAN COMMUNISM. Omg... I hate Gul. We have great resources... ideals - they come from god. Our moral obligation to share.j

Ron Paul:
Pre empted war -- we have for aid. We have rejected the ... we are not even willing to remove preempted nuclear bomb off the table. (I like Ron the best)

Brownback
Life issue. Party that stands for a culture of life. I don't think we can nominate someone who isn't pro life. (hate him hate him) Pro life and whole life can move us forward. --Would you support gul if he wins primary-- I can support and will support nominate -- I don't think it will be Gul.

[WinkyDink]

88. Rudy is parroting Bush, completely.

[DesertRat]

66. Rep. party stood for culture of life? paging George Orwell!

[MadBadger]

67. Ooooo, Brownback says Guiliani Will def Not get the nomination

[Colobo]

68. Brownback thinks Rudy won't get nominated

[dethl]

69. Mitt just got owned!!!!!

[MadBadger]

70. Romney Hit Job! I love that guy who asked that question

[Bluebear]

74. LOL I know that guy

I never knew he was a young Republican.

[MadBadger]

Did he say he was a young repub?

[Bluebear]

96. Yeah he is

[AlCzervik]

71. Oh good one, Romney why are you airing ads in Spainish if you want english

as the nationial language.

[AlCzervik]

72. "Garsh i love Spanish people!"

[Colobo]

73. Spanish speaking people are EVIL according to the jerk who asked Romney!

[AlCzervik]

76. omg now it's a "Who hates mexicans more" contest.

[Colobo]

75. Shut the Hell Up, Romney!

[Colobo]

Europe doesn't work, Tancredo?

[LSK]

77. bilingual countries dont work??? care to explain every EU country???

[Colobo]

84. McCain owned Tancredo!

[Bluebear]

78. McCain: "Governor, MOOSHAS gracias!"

[bullwinkle428]

79. Bi-lingual doesn't work? UTTER HORSESHIT! They speak 4 languages

in Switzerland, and things work pretty well over there! :mad:

[Endangered Specie]

80. Bi-lingual countries don't work... don't tell that to Switzerland

with FOUR languages

(and Canada for that matter, since most these guys couldn't find Switzerland on a map).

[Labors of Hercules]

81. applause for this shit???

[Bluebear]

87. Yes. Republicans are jingoistic and small-minded

Tonight cements that for me.

[DesertRat]

82. or Italy

[trashcanistanista]

91. or THE US

[bullwinkle428]

93. Beautiful! We posted the exact same fact simultaneously!

:toast:

[alfredo]

85. I've been watching the viewer response on CNN. It appears that

the Republican voters don't support compassion, but the independents do. When the candidate start talking about helping those in need, the republican bar dips below zero.

[sproutster]

86. GOV RON EXCLUSIVELLY - accused of flipflopping on immigration... lang - Ron has spanish ad and for .

english language.

I LIKE immigrants. Firmly believe enforce borders, employment verification, no special pathway - Mistake. Think broader issue - We have extrod opportunity - Now Asia out of poverty out of poverty we can sell everything to them. We need to focus on future.

Tancredo - would you campaign in spanish:
No I would not. Pres of eng lang important - holds us together - bilingual language countries down work (lol tell canada they is failure) bitching about gov forms in spanish -- WRONG!!! Dont be ashamed of our language.

McCain:
Enforse borders - special path - is hard. Need to stop illegal, but we have waves. diff lang, diff culture. In my state it was language before english. Look at graves... see all hispanic names. Greencard holders love country so much willing to join military. From time to time - gods children, enriched our nation. (I liked this)

[AlCzervik]

89. McCain, will he say "Drunken sailors" again?

[Colobo]

90. Gracias, Senador McCain. As a Hispanic, I appreciate your recognition.

[Labors of Hercules]

100. Was that recognition or a joke?

[Colobo]

108. No, he responded to Tancredo's blatant bigotry and I appreciate that.

[Dave From Canada]

111. I agree, I thought that was excellent.

[Kolesar]

120. I logged on and went to this thread just to see what people would say about McCain

I thought McCain was quite well spoken.

Wolf Blitzer: "what did you think of Tancredo's comments"
John McCain: "Tancredo...was beyond my realm of thinking"

[WinkyDink]

92. RUDY IS INSANE. "Republicans became Democrats", and led to "the mess in Washington."

WTH???

[trashcanistanista]

103. President ran as a repug

but governed as a liberal? This must be the newest spin to distance from *. * is now a liberal!!!!

[WinkyDink]

109. THAT'S his problem! LOL!

[Colobo]

94. LOL at Brownback!

[TransitJohn]

95. Oh. My. God.

That freaking hairpiece on Thompson is COMPLETELY OUTTA FUCKIN' CONTROL MAN!!!!! SERIES!!!111!!!1!

[OzarkDem]

97. Tancredo on cancer

Can't accomplish anything on eradicating cancer if they don't have access to HEALTH CARE!!!

[Colobo]

105. Brownback, that was.

[Colobo]

98. Tom Tancredo is DANGEROUS.

[WinkyDink]

99. Paul gets the most applause! Hahahahahaha!!

[Colobo]

102. Ron Paul is great.

[AlCzervik]

104. Hunter's son is nauseating me and i don't even know him.

[sproutster]

106. Defeat - do more of same - why win?? (2006 - 2008)

McCaine:
Spending, spending leads to corruption. Got to stop the earmarking. Bridge to nowhere tipping
I'll get spending under control.

Gul:
Bushes biggest mistake?
Different from Bush - accountability - repugs became democrat... omfg he is fucking dickhead.

Romeny: Large bore to small bore - Ronnie Regan - new vision, jour producvts lead world

Brownback: Taking on cancer - and ending cancer in 10 years - This is in our reach.

(missed name)Went to washington, washington changed us. Healthcare - Iraq if we spend money like dems.

(missed name)Pres ran as conservative and worked as a liberal

Ron Paul:No policy blah blah - changed ... money going to war, needs to stop.

(missed name)Principal - immigration - rule of law - earmark - taxes - pres has good tax cuts.

Families lift nation up... blah blah blah
paster dude:

excessive taxation and reg make buisness hard to compete and immigration, then more difficulties for buisness from dems

[Labors of Hercules]

107. Gotta keep those tax cuts... yep,

[bullwinkle428]

110. Duncan really waving around his son's service - really slapping the other GOPers

in the face...especially Mitt with the five non-serving sons!

[Labors of Hercules]

115. Why are they standing to speak? Is this a power trip or what?

[napi21]

129. Bill Clinton started that back in 1994! He really connected with

the audience when he did that, and if you watch him, he still does that.

The Pubs, at least some of them, picked up on that and playing copycat!

[AlCzervik]

112. Tancredo "Cut your ties to the past when you come to this country" does that count for Cuba?

[WinkyDink]

116. I guess he won't be marching in the next St. Patrick's Day parade!

[Labors of Hercules]

118. He meant to say "cut ties with your family", but corrected himself.

sheesh.... :eyes:

[AlCzervik]

122. right he then added "cut your political ties with your country"

[graywarrior]

113. Jesus, what a bunch of used car salesmen.

And not one woman in the group.

[BadgerKid]

124. tonight's theme: Marketing makes America great

I kind of knew the R's POV, but I am still overwhelmed tonight as if I've heard it for the first time.

[Colobo]

114. Tancredo: Cut ties with the past? Tom, fuck you, piece of shit.

[Colobo]

117. Rudy owned Tancredo!

[Party Line]

119. inanable rights?!?

[WinkyDink]

123. Oh, they're INANE, all right!

[sproutster]

121. what is american?

Tancredo: Cut form past... when come to america. I think he's saying no more immigration... not sure.j

Pasture (hunter): No should not stop immigration - we need scientists, doctors... americans want sane immigration.

Gul: Disagrees with Tancredo. Shouldn't debate about legal immigration. Lincoln said being an american is how much do you believe in freedom... etc. The person that believes it the most is the most american.
(good answer)

McCain: America is land of opportunity. To share in common goal and endowed by our creater with certain inalienable rights (sorry bout spelling) Yes it must be regulated. But america still beacon of hope and liberty... (better answer)

[Colobo]

125. Giuliani and McCain owned that dirty ass bitch Tancredo

[trashcanistanista]

138. i give it to paul but my gut

says that the fundies will swoon for huckabee. Romney and Gouli are out.

[AlCzervik]

127. according to Gilmore "Your value as a tax payer"

[Labors of Hercules]

126. I guess Republicans aren't American then...

[BlueStater]

128. "Moderate Republican" was probably "regular Republican" 40 years ago n/t

[Name removed]

130. Deleted message

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[BlueStater]

131. I'm sure Osama bin laden is shaking in his sandals of this lispy cross-dresser n/t

[Bluebear]

132. Ghouliani: Democrats couldn't even utter the words "Islamic terrorists" 2 days ago!

[Labors of Hercules]

134. FEAR FEAR FEAR!!! WAR WAR WAR!!!!

[HeeBGBz]

135. Did he just call himself a hero? n/t

[WinkyDink]

142. McCain? No; he said "heroes" as an influence upon him.

[sproutster]

133. What for moderate repubs?

Gilmore: Conservative stands for everyone. ... goes to what is american? Same thing blah blah...

Hunter: Terminater successful bringing in moderates is he good example? NO. Romney joined with clinton on gun ban. Hates his socialist healthcare. stands with latest kennedy immigrant bill.

Romney: Wins all - Ronald Reagen -- "three legs" Stong military Strong economy and Strong family

Gul: way to accomplish is vote me. Offense against terrorism - unlike dems. Offense against socialized medicine.

McCain: Protect family. Second take time to fight against radical islamist

(you know typing this wtf about the typhoon about to hit the gulf... I'm thinking there is a lil' something more important)

[AlCzervik]

136. YAY!!! It's over! I always hate myself after watching the republican debates but i can't

help myself.

[DesertRat]

139. It's like watching a train wreck...hard to look away!

[Labors of Hercules]

140. Always good to keep a close eye on what the evil are doing.

[trashcanistanista]

141. YES! it's over!!!!

[Endangered Specie]

137. thank god thats over

[Dukkha]

143. Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan

do I have the nomination yet?

Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan Ronald Reagan

[Berry Cool]

144. Did somebody say

Ronald Reagan? :shrug: