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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:01 AM
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The Young Chickenhawks

by The Angry Rakkasan

Nary a word in the English language can make Republicans so apoplectically insane as this one:

"CHICKENHAWK"

Of course, they don’t like it because it’s an underhanded way of calling them cowards. And nobody likes to be called a coward. - Strictly defined, "chickenhawk" is a term "meant to indicate that the person in question is cowardly or hypocritical for personally avoiding combat in the past while advocating that others go to war in the present." We all know who some of the most obnoxiously belligerent offenders are, like Bush, Cheney, Fred Thompson, Giuliani, O’Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, Limbaugh, Perle, Kristol, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rove, Snow, and Ted Nugent.

The Angry Rakkasan's diary :: ::
When Republicans are called chickenhawks, they howl. They cry about how the term is ad hominem. They lash out and point to other Republicans who have served in wars. They do everything but actually join the military. Now, prior to the days when Republicans had yet to break the U.S. military, chickenhawks had a valid argument against the fairness of the term. But now—not so much. Glenn Greenwald summed it up nicely earlier this year:

It is true that where there is an amply stocked volunteer military, it is natural and inevitable that many citizens will support a war in ways other than by enlisting. No additional troops were needed, for instance, at the time of the invasion of Afghanistan (or during the action in Kosovo), and there was thus no tension between supporting those wars and not fighting.

But the current situation is completely different. Even according to the war's remaining advocates -- particularly those who want to escalate in Iraq -- there is a serious and harmful shortage of willing volunteers to fight in Iraq and to enable a more aggressive application of U.S. military force generally. So we do now have a situation where those who are cheering on more war and escalation really are needed not at the computer screen but on the battlefield, in combat. And their refusal to fight is actually impeding the plans of those on whom the President is relying for "Victory."

As a result, it is now morally indefensible for those who are physically able to do so to advocate a "surge," or even ongoing war in Iraq, without either volunteering to fight or offering a good reason why they are not doing so.

Fortunately for most contemporary chickenhawks, they’re too old to enlist, and thus marginally excusable. But not all of them are. Indeed, there is a very vocal minority of Republican chickenhawks, still young enough to enlist in the military, but still unwilling to physically support their beloved war.
Ironically, four of the five listed below are only still eligible because the Army had to raise its enlistment age from 35 to 42—because it couldn’t find enough qualified recruits to send to Iraq. While raising the age limit twice within five months (first to 40, then to 42), the Army was also forced to lower physical standards at the same time. These facts alone should be reason enough for the most ardent supporters of the war to sign up. Obviously the military needs people that know so much about war.
I present them to you now:

1. Michelle Malkin, age 36

Time left to enlist: 5 years, 4 months, 16 days

Michelle is a prime candidate for the military. She knows more about terrorism and war than anybody. Just ask her. She even has first hand experience, having spent a whole week in Iraq earlier this year trying to gain some type of moral authority over her legions of detractors. But what makes Michelle ideal for the military, is the fact that she not only has a fervent hatred of terrorists, but that she also finds foreigners inherently distasteful. And what better place to fight terrorists and foreigners than in foreign countries with lots of terrorism? I mean, fight them there, so we don’t have to fight them here, right?
With her degree, they may even let Michelle become an officer.

(((rest of the potential joiners @ link below including Drudge:)))

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/5/2030/83070



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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:03 AM
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1. My mental picture is the "yeah! yeah! Go get 'im Spike!" little yipping cartoon dog.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:08 AM
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2. Nothing UNDERHANDED from this Vet
bush supporters who have never served are FUCKING COWARDS. PERIOD. They cringe at the word chickenhawk because they know it has quantum GRAVITAS relative to their candy asses. They masturbate at news reports of car bombings blowing up nonwhite, nonchristians and wave flags and say they support our troops but develop limbaughs (pimples) on their cowardly asses when it is time to walk the walk. UNDERHANDED my ass.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:11 AM
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3. So what exactly are you getting at, boss? :)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:16 AM
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5. I'm working at coming out of my shell
trying to share my viewpoint and opinions with others.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:55 AM
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11. You are doing a fine job!
:applause:
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:55 AM
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17. Good to see you coming out
Those years in the Goat locker must have really mellowed you.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:24 AM
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19. We did take
every opportunity to hone our communication skills.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:46 AM
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8. My sentiments as well. These people are nothing more than
cowards. They have been with societies since the dawn of time, and they are little if anything other than cowards who have no thoughts about anything but themselves and how they can benefit from the sacrifice of others.

This particularly vociferous bunch is beyond being despised, they are to the point of being driven from the country by those of us who have served, and know what is expected of us.

If ONE of the John Wayne types joined up, one would think Rambo would take a back seat to that individual...the "Uber-Warrior" Savior of the nation...:eyes:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:52 AM
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10. Hello My Friend
I saw on NBC news last night the funeral for a soldier in a town south of Omaha (don't recall the name.) I am proud to say that unlike heartless cowards I still choke up badly at such stories. Hell I choke up at promotion ceremonies.

Yes indeed, national service of some kind to maintain citizenship. How so totally unconservative of you. The young republicans amongst us are working their abramoff degrees to become old republicans. Meanwhile the funerals continue.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:42 AM
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16. There is a story coming on KFAB w/an interview w/the Phelps
member who was cited for having her 8 yo son stomp an an American Flag at the funeral.

Live interview w/Phelps creep at 1000 CDT, KFAB 1110 out of Omaha...http://www.kfab.com/pages/voorhees.html

it streams. Scott Voorhees, another pinhead is doing the shot, but most people have called and e-mailed saying, "why even give this vile creature a voice?"...a sentiment I agree with.

While i feel that stomping on the Flag is Free Speech...it is also a great way to make sure no one has any respect for what you are saying, and you've just made a huge amount of enemies.

Voorhees is a jerk, but in this case, he's on our side...:)

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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:02 AM
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12. Thanks for all of your input on this Boss. Maybe you can enlighten me
on a question I have always had on this. Why, why would any knowledgeble active duty military, retired or military organizations support these cowards? This administration has done more damage than any administration in our history to our military. I have never understood those and the American Legion has to be bonkers to support these clowns (sorry I have a lot of respect for clowns); will keep the word chickenhawks/cowards for them.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:14 AM
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14. I think it is part of the right wing
disinformation machine to say that the vast majority of active duty personnel are supporting bush. In my experience politics was seldom discussed in the military workplace. The American Legion and VFW are headed by war mongerers whose mindset is constant war for whatever reason. I have informed both that as long as their current leadership is in place, they won't get a penney from me. And the head of the American Legion is a liar. He says he is a Vietnam Vet when in fact, he spent his time in the Army at Fort Dix New Jersey. I salute him for his service but he is a Vietnam ERA Vet, not a Vietnam Vet, ergo he is a liar.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:23 AM
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15. Thanks; big difference between Vietnman Vet and Era. I hope the good
Dem veterans such as yourself are able to clarify and get the real truth out there where people know how these people have done their military.

It is my understanding that all of those who know war and have served are the ones so hesitant to send our sons and daughters to war. It is the "last resort" not pre-empted as Bush who hid out in Alabama has done.

I honestly do not see how these people sleep at night for what they have done to their fellow citizens and others.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:22 AM
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18. Not so sure about bush hiding out in Bama
A group put up a 5K reward for anyone who could confirm bush served with them in the Guard in Alabama. Five years later the reward remains unclaimed. In my nasty heart I believe they sleep very well because they don't care about the country, they care about their party.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:35 AM
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20. the most I ever got from the VFW and The American Legion...
was when I was still drinking...nothing beat a 25 cent Happy Hour that goes on for days.

While these organizations have immense potential to benefit vets and Active Duty servicemembers, they spend far too much time playing the political arena...:(
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:38 AM
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21. My money goes to
the DAV, AMVETS and the FRA. I told the American Legion to take me off their mailing list that when I contribute money to the SPCA I know the loyalty will be returned and is appreciated.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:42 AM
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23. I plan on going into the VA as an RN in the near future...
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 10:44 AM by rasputin1952
By next year at this time, I hope to be back East and will be there for our brothers and sisters. It is simply, the right thing to do...O8)

On edit: I'm listening to KFAB right now on stream, and they are having the D-Day speech by FDR...What ever happened to those who truly could be so eloquent in times of duress? It is difficult to see just where we all fell into the abyss of inane blatherings and sound bites...:(
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:13 AM
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4. "chickenhawks" were also Male Vietamese whores
:rofl:

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:18 AM
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6. Lovely article but there are others
Tim Griffin, Monica Goodling, Glen Beck, Fugger Carlson, Pierce Bush, Jenna and Babs, and many others.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:29 AM
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7. Attention College Republican's!
There are people in our military that have served their time and are on stop loss waiting for someone to come and take their place. If you are a supporter of this war you have no excuse. You have an obligation to relieve them and do your share. They are waiting for you. Call 1-(800)-GO-ARMY today. Don't wait, don't pass on your responsibility to someone else. It's your President and your war.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:47 AM
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9. I've failed miserably at
getting bush supporters to the Army Recruiting Depot. They always have something to do when I offer a ride, gosh they are busy. They also don't understand me when I say the best way to support the troops is to join them. And they don't like the war being called bush's war, their talking point instructs them to say its America's War. And deep down in their nasty cowardly hearts they just wish bush would go away because as long as he occupies the white house, assholes like me and you will continue to put the mirror up to their cowardly chickenshit faces. Semper Asshole Mate!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:08 AM
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13. Where ARE those college republicans??
They don't even need a ride. They just have to walk over to the ROTC building and sign the contracts.

How hard is that??
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:39 AM
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22. 3. Vulgar Slang A man who seeks out boys or young men as his sexual partners.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chickenhawk

that's what I thought people were talking about!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:59 AM
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25. That's why Rush Limbaugh fits BOTH definitions
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:55 AM
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24. Couldn't agree more about Patrick T. McHenry.
That jack ass really gets on my nerves.

Some time in Iraq would wipe that smarmy smirk off his face, but good.
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