I am oddly indifferent to a LIbby Pardon . How about you

[Perky]

Poll question: I am oddly indifferent to a LIbby Pardon . How about you

I suspect I would express my obligatory outrage.

But the red hot coals of Plamegate have turned to ashed.


THe upside of it is that it is a media field of reams and might provoke a House investigation (but Bush can't go lower in the polls and a Pardon will not make him any new friends on the Hill and we all k now how immensely effective Democratic-led investigation have gone for us):sarcasm:

But again whether Libby does time at some country club prison or not I am pretty much indifferent.

[bryant69]

1. I feels kind of inevitable, and as such it's hard to get worked up over

I don't know if that's the right response (I kind of suspect it's not), but it is kind of how i feel.

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[RaleighNCDUer]

2. The jail time is irrelevant.

A pardon, however, means he would be able to go back into government at a later date. THAT is my objection.

Just as the pardoned Iran/Contra criminals reappeared in the Bush administration, pardons will mean that the current crop of criminals will again turn up like the bad pennies they are. I would gladly trade no jail time for no pardon.

[panader0]

3. I don't think he should be pardoned, but if he is, people will be outraged

and bush's approval ratings will go even lower.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

4. in some circles

however, the average Joe doesn't know or care about Libby. The response would be oh, who?

[AndyA]

5. He lied. Under oath. He knew better.

Pardoning him is condoning this behavior. We've seen nothing but disrespect and contempt from the Republicans for the laws of our land. They need to be held accountable for their actions, it's the only way to discourage future bad behavior. And we all pay the price for their crimes.

[TahitiNut]

6. He obstructed justice. What'll he be pardoned for? Succeeding?

:grr: A pardon compounds a felony.

[HereSince1628]

7. Yeah, well Bush is indifferent toward the rule of law

I suppose it could be one of those odd times where you agree with Bush.

[Perky]

8. Well not tire the hornet's nest

But Pardoning is not the same as absolution. It just simply says I am padoning your guilt. He is no less guilty if pardoned.

[HereSince1628]

10. True, it simply means he is a whole lot less punished.

I'm opposed to the notion that we shouldn't punish high officials for abuse of their positions. This obstruction very likely protected an out of control Dick Cheney.

[H2O Man]

9. Odd. n/t

[Captain Hilts]

11. He is a small fish taking a hit for a Big Fish, but he lied to the FBI, the Grand Jury, etc...

you can't get away with that.

If they cut short his sentence I won't be all that upset. But he has to do some slammer time.

[H2O Man]

15. Respectfully disagree.

Mr. Libby is not a "small fish." It would be an error to confuse a lack of publicity concerning his career with an absence of status and power.

[Captain Hilts]

16. You don't understand. Libby is a "little fish" because he doesn't make policy or decisions...

he executes them. I have done work for the White House, so, no, I'm not mistaking publicity levels with importance.

It's all relative. Cheney should be in jail for a good long while.

[H2O Man]

19. Actually,

it makes no difference if you have worked at the White House, or have been a janitor at the county jail, as long as you can read: "Libby had three formal titles. He was chief of staff to Vice President Cheney; he was also national security advisor to the vice president; and he was finally an assistant to President Bush. It was a trifecta of positions probably never before held by a single person." (Plan of Attack; Woodward; page 48).

More, along with Paul Wolfowitz, he wrote the 1992 memo that the Washington Post's Barton Gellman called a "classified blueprint intended to help 'set the nation's direction for the next century...'." More, though it was quietly dropped at the time, it was resurrected in September of 2002, in an official White House document titled The National Security Strategy of the United States.

I do understand.

[Captain Hilts]

20. First, stop being rude. Second, he is, at best, second level.

He helps others - Wolfowitz, Cheney, etc. They're the real criminals.

I think Libby belongs in jail, but it's no substitute for the real criminals. It's like jailing a drug mule while the suppliers go free.

ps. How many phds do you have? I have one and three other degrees. So, stop insulting my intelligence or my knowledge of how Washington works from what you've read in the newspaper.

[H2O Man]

22. I'm not being rude.

Again, a person can flip burgers and still know that Libby isn't a "small fish." Only a clown would insist that he is.

[librechik]

12. I'm so furious that it's not Cheney going to prison that I don't care either

except that a scumbag doofus like that who doesn't know any better than to do what Cheney says and fuck the country should be kept out of the public discourse, and jail is one way to do it.

[Captain Hilts]

17. BINGO. He's no substitute for Cheney paying for his own crimes. nt

[The Stranger]

13. I am astonished that a poster on DU would be indifferent.

Libby should pay for what he has done.

[ComerPerro]

14. couldn't give a shit, but that's because I have been expecting it

[bamacrat]

18. I would be livid unless..

his blatant diregard for the law (yet again) resulted in his impeachment.

[DemBones DemBones]

21. A pardon might open up a new line of attack for Dems but they don't know

how to play offense. Or defense. We need to draft new players.