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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:45 PM
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Interrogation Abuse: Psychologists in on it at Gitmo!!! - "Scoop"
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 01:50 PM by autorank
Well, this is not a feel good story. What the heck is going on with this?


From: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0705/S00513.htm

Psychologists in Gitmo & Iraq Interrogation Abuse


Thursday, 31 May 2007, 9:59 am
Opinion: Stephen Soldz

Defense Department Releases Evidence of
Central Role of Psychologists in Guantánamo and Iraq Interrogation Abuse:
Inspector General documents role of Survival,
Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) techniques


By Stephen Soldz


The Defense Department (DoD) has just declassified a report from their Inspector General (OIG) looking at the various investigations that the Department has conducted into repeated claims of detainee abuse – a.k.a. "torture" and "cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment" – banned by international and United States law. The report documents that the various DoD "investigations were, individually and in total, inadequate:

Allegations of detainee abuse were not consistently reported, investigated, or managed in an effective, systematic, and timely manner. Multiple reporting channels were available for reporting allegations and, once reported, command discretion could be used in determining the action to be taken on the reported allegation. We did not identify any specific allegations that were not reported or reported and not investigated. Nevertheless, no single entity within any level of command was aware of the scope and breadth of detainee abuse.

Perhaps the most important information in this report, however, is that it provides further documentation that psychologists were central to the development of the abusive interrogation paradigm developed at Guantánamo and migrated to Abu Ghraib and other Iraqi prisons. In particular, the OIG provides concrete evidence that techniques developed in the US military's SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape) program to help US troops at high risk of becoming POWs evade capture and resist breaking under abusive interrogations were systematically imported to Guantánamo and, less systematically, to Iraq and Afghanistan. As the report describes:

Snip

As part of the SERE program, trainees are subjected to abuse, including sleep deprivation, sexual and cultural humiliation, and, in some instances, waterboarding, described by one SERE graduate thus:

You are strapped to a board, a washcloth or other article covers your face, and water is continuously poured, depriving you of air, and suffocating you until it is removed, and/or inducing you to ingest water. We were carefully monitored (although how they determined these limits is beyond me), but it was a most unpleasant experience, and its threat alone was sufficient to induce compliance, unless one was so deprived of water that it would be an unintentional means to nourishment.


From: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0705/S00513.htm


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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:47 PM
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1. Monsters and criminals. The whole crew should be in the dock at the Hague. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:21 PM
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9. The military stacked an APA panel with their people. See my post
below. :mad:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:49 PM
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2. Psychologists know how to do it.
Can you imagine anyone better suited at exploiting a person's weaknesses and fears? "Psychologist" is not always synonymous with "compassionate".
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:14 PM
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14. "not always synonymous with 'compassionate'" - you're so right.

This is really a throw back to the 50's experiments when pepole were dosed with LSD and there was
a lot of research into using hypnosis to do things it was never intended to do.

I'd sure not like to run into any of these clinicians outside of Gitmo.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:49 PM
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3. Any medical person
who assisted in this should lose their liscence and then be jailed.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:57 PM
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4. It goes without saying that the psychologists and medical personnel there
are complicit. If they were adhering to their professional oaths, this system would work.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:52 PM
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44. Pseudoheros passing the buck and CYA'n on up the line...
just sayin'....

Iraq is not Platoni’s first experience with extreme stress. She also served 10 months at Guantanamo, counseling military and civilian workers overseeing detainees at the “Gitmo” prison camp.

“I had minimal contact with the detainees,” she said, adding that mental health services for detainees were provided by other specialists. Her duty was to care for military and civilian personnel assigned to the camp. She said in many ways those assignments can be as stressful as combat.

She said the mental health workers of the Army and Navy assigned to treat the detainees were “top notch” and included Ph.D. psychologists, medical doctors and psychiatric nurses.

http://cps.nova.edu/CE/WarHead.doc (I know this link is fubar, but the HTML one is just too long)

How nice! What else could she possibly say when morality and duty collide so that she gets that next promotion and to keep those high-ranking officer retirement benes? Obviously, she's got to be really, really good at being a con-artistry of the mind and has discovered the path to job security.

Can't you just hear it--Keep your mouths shut guys and gals: You know it; I know it, but you need to lose your humanity while following those orders (or giving them) while I make you feel better for it and go back and make lots of bucks cleaning up the debris in all your heads. Sure makes hearing about the lives of desperate housewives sooooo much easier when I get back to Diebold country. Now, just share the frig space nicely, would you? DESPICABLE!


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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:00 PM
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5. Christ help us all
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 02:00 PM by merh
unless one was so deprived of water that it would be an unintentional means to nourishment.

So they were deprived of essential nutrients and water to such a point that the water boarding gave relief before it caused terror and constituted.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:15 PM
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15. Isn't that the strangest thing ever....chilling!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:32 PM
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20. it is chilling, it had me so upset that I didn't finish the thought
in my post. Thease folks are animals, lower than animals, animals attack and injure out of instinct, these vile pieces of waste do it because they can.

NOT.IN.MY.NAME. :mad: :cry:

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:52 PM
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23. He's talking about SERE trainees, not prisoners
Gallows humor, I think; he's saying you've been doing a survival course at SERE school and you're so dehydrated that ingesting water like that feels good.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:56 PM
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39. So it's acceptable to torture an SERE trainee in such a fashion
is that what you are telling me?

Oh, I know, they volunteer to be mistreated. It's part of the bonding and the making of a man, a soldier, right.

Would your name be scott, per chance. You remind me of a scott.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:37 PM
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46. Don't be patronizing
A) They do volunteer for special forces and know exactly what they are getting into
B) It's not some good-old-boy "make a man a soldier" nonsense, it's a very matter-of-fact recognition that in many situations these guys end up in, if they are caught they will be tortured like this and they need to understand that they can survive it and have some measure of self-control through it
C) No, my name is not Scott
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:42 AM
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49. Sorry, you can't convince me that this is necessary or acceptable.
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 12:43 AM by merh
You don't take a cat-o-nine-tails to the backs of the soldier, you can't use electric shock on them, you can't put them on the rack, you can't shove the bamboo under their nails, you can't suspend them from the ceiling by their arms, you can't beat them until they can barely move, use blackjacks on them, rubber hoses or bamboo canes and those are methods that the enemy would use, they don't use the method outlined in that article or if they do, they don't use them as much as they use the methods I've outlined.

It's bullshit and it is wrong. The soldiers are merely guinea pigs and it's done to see how best to torture without leaving the physical scars.

Nothing in the world justifies this behavior, this inhumane treatment to a human being, not to our soldiers, not to POWs, not to enemy combatants, not to prisoners and not to deranged criminals. It is wrong.

and you do remind me of scott.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:12 PM
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6. God This Is Such A Shame Isn't It
Do psychologists have to take an oath like 'do no harm'?
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:54 PM
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24. Very interesting question! I don't think so, but they certainly should!
Really, that is a *great* thought!

:thumbsup:
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:57 PM
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45. They have a code of ethics
and one can make a complaint to the licensing body.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:12 PM
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7. Man's inhumanity to man
The Bush Evil Empire is going down with the Nazi's legacy of cruelty and savagery. I wounder if the Bulsheviks plan was not to torture, maim and deprive these Muslim men, all around the world, to make sure the US Military never runs out of enemies to fight. My, God, the sheer brutality, of it all. Bush has single-handedly ratcheted up the ire of these people for generations. I don't think we could do anything to gain their forgiveness. The other thing that truly bothers me is what it has done psychologically to the interrogators who had to do this stuff. I can't believe they will ever sleep very well at night and they will always remember what they have done unto others. A lot of monsters have been created because of this. Medical professionals take an oath to do no harm. Bush ordered them to break their oaths. Again I hate to see these schmucks, get a slap on the wrist, at some military tribunal, while the Cheney and Bush continue to defecate on Human Rights.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:19 PM
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8. autorank: Amy Goodman had a great, detailed segment on this last
week -- maybe Thursday.

You have to read it. The APA (which is involved with licensing psychologists) convened a panel on this issue THAT WAS STACKED with people who were directly connected with the military -- 6 of 9 members, iirc.

The upshot was a report sheared of reccomendations. People are withholding their dues in outrage If you go to the APA website, nada. I'd look at the rush transcrip at DemocracyNow!

Oh, and the APA convention is going to be held in San Francisco in a coupla months. :evilgrin:

Link to the DN rush transcript:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/01/1457247&mode=thread&tid=25

Go, Scoop!

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:19 PM
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16. Thank you so much. Sounds like APA clinicians versus non clinicians

It's a big organization. I don't know what % actually treat people and what % are researchers but
I'll bet that's the drift.

The memory expert that Fitz took apart, the one who would excuse Libby's "forgetting," was subject of an APA hearing on her ethics and she quit to avoid it.

No dues hurts. I'm sure that San Francisco will have an appropriate welcome for them;)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:06 PM
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26. We will do our best to welcome these torturers with their due. n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:04 PM
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35. This is a fascinating thread.
And while I can still smile at the memory of the "expert" that Mr. Fitzgerald spanked on the stand, I find the direction that the clinicians who are involved in torture to be extremely dangerous. But history is filled with examples that prove that an education alone is no indicator of morality, or decency.

I'm reminded of an article that was published in the Winter 1998 edition of Native American Journal, by historian Bruce Johansen (pages 44-47). Johansen, a Professor of Communication and Native American Studies at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, wrote, "Reprise/Forced Sterilizations: Native Americans and the 'Last Gasp of Eugenics'." He documented the record of health authorities in the US, coercing the sterilizations of Indian women -- including some as young as 15 -- over the past three decades. One statistic from the US General Accounting Office (GAO) showed that in looking at 1/3rd of the federal Indian Health Services, there were over 3,400 Indian women sterilized in the decade of the 1970s alone.

Thank you for shining a light on the dark path some of these doctors are taking.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:36 PM
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43. We know people are capable of unthinkable sadism.
The Stanford experiments taught us that.

The new challenge seems to be, are people capable of intervening when they witness a terrible wrong?

That verdict seems still to be out.

(I'm rooting for our guys.)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:48 AM
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53. "Breaking Men's Minds"
In the Early Summer, 1981 (Vol. 13, #2) edition of Akwesasne Notes, there was a 4-page article by Eddie Griffin, one of the "Marion Brothers." The sub-title of the article is "Behavior Control and Human Experimentation at the Federal Prison in Marion, Illinois." In other DU threads, I've noted the 1958 study by Princeton University's social scientist Gresham Sykes, "The Society of Captives." I think that what is happening under this administration is an extension of the systematic mistreatment of de-valued human beings, that has been taking place for a long time.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:05 PM
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57. Interesting - like normalizing brutality?
I just got my copy of The Sane Society in today's mail. Your posts are costing me a bundle, my friend. lol

:)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:44 PM
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59. The Sane Society
is an outstanding book. I read it many years ago, during the lunch breaks at my job. It made me think about what I was doing to earn money. I ended up working in human services, for the fraction of the money I had been making. So sometimes my readings cost me a lot, too!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:30 PM
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10. If this is proved, they should at the very least be drummed out of the profession
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:13 PM
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58. It has been proved. The APA had to convene a panel to
produce a report that would handle the outcry. Unfortunately, the Pentagon sabotaged that panel and insinuated a gutless report so they could continue to act under cover of this professional society.



There is no doubt that this is occurring, I'm sorry to say, just as there is no depths to which these sociopaths in our government won't sink.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:17 PM
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11. K&R 5
I remember an article some time ago about a psychologist refusing to be a part of creating torture techniques.

Don't remember where. Maybe the New Yorker?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:38 PM
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12. The DoD has had Shrinks for use against people.
We had them used against us in training.

You don't want those people inside your head.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:42 PM
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13. Educated at the School of the Americas,
no doubt.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:21 PM
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17. That's a beauty...all these creepy things are at the...
pleasure of the president!

:hi:

(This is new, it's great!!!)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:28 PM
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18. That's refucklican famly valyooz for ya.


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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:45 PM
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21. I'm truly honored!!! that this is on my thread. althecat will show up shortly,
I suspect and be blown away.

Wonder what APA will have to say;)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 05:10 PM
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25. I, too, wonder what the APA plans to do about their own who are involved with torturing human beings
:hi:



:kick:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:09 PM
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27. I was just thinking about althecat earlier...
and hoping he'd show up today.

No kidding. Madame Kurovska strikes again.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:31 PM
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19. Absolutely! You're exposing the dirty underbelly of the profession!
Remember "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"?

If that wasn't torture, I don't know what is....

There's much rottenness there, and people who so glibly say, "You should seek 'help'" need to be better educated about the profession!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 04:46 PM
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22. ...and it's all so unnecessary.

The big institutions are closed, you have to be totally incapable of taking care of yourself
to get in any long term facility...so these opportunities are sought out!

:hi:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:22 PM
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28. The top people in the Busholini Regime approved of Torture.
That includes Busholini, Cheney, Rumsfailed, Rice, Powell, Gonzo Tenet and the list can go on for many pages.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:31 PM
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29. I'm not surprised. Too many therapists I've known were
just glorified phone psychics. Their job was to keep their clients coming back. Remember, Woody Allen was in analysis for 35 years, and still married his stepdaughter. I only make referrals to cognitive behavioral therapists, because they're the only ones who have any clinical evidence to support their work. Some of the others may be competent and well-intentioned, but there's not much in the way of hard science behind what they do.

Pardon my cynicism, but I've seen the harm a bad shrink can do.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:23 PM
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40. Do you have info on the cognitive behavioral therapists?
A link?

Thanks!
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:37 AM
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51. Here...
http://www.nacbt.org/

Evidence-based therapy! What a concept!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:08 PM
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61.  " I've seen the harm a bad shrink can do."


Absolutely! There are so many people in that position who don't belong there!

Study after study has shown that, for all different "schools" of therapy, the results are usually the same: 1/3 get better, 1/3 stay the same, and 1/3 get worse. That ought to give anyone pause.

Also... I really liked the question another poster had: Is there an oath of do no harm that therapists take?
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:48 AM
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50. Bless you Ken Kesey.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:31 PM
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30. Jihad H. Christ
What have they done with our country?

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:37 PM
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31. Here on DU and other Internet Sites have been talking about PSY OPS for years!
FOR YEARS!

Sadly...I don't think most Americans give a S**T about this. They still think (even those who don't like Bush) that this is NORMAL...stuff we SHOULD be doing.

I don't know these Americans....I can't imagine that folks have forgotten about Torture and Cruelty that was done in both WWI and II but particularly in WWII! And ....Does ANYONE READ HISTORY?

What KIND OF SUPOSSED CHRISTIANS RUN THE US? I was raised as a Christian...I still am...but can't go to Church anymore BECAUSE MY CHURCH LEFT ME ON IRAQ INVASION AND NOT SPEAKING OUT FORCEFULLY ON TORTURE!

Disenfranchised Christians who FOLLOW CHRIST'S TEACHINGS...are DROWNED OUT...by the F**ing FUNDIES who believe in AN EYE FOR AN EYE AND ARMAGEDDON!

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:47 PM
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32. Most of the so called Christian RWingers follow the OT not Jesus.
They call themselves Christians but do not follow the teachings of Jesus. It's a real disconnect.

For some education on the OT go here.

It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

http://www.evilbible.com
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:52 PM
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33. Terry Gross (NPR's Fresh Air) had someone on today
(sorry I was picking up kids from school so I lack detail) that compared torture under the * administration with cold war Soviet era accounts of torture (AND CALLED TORTURE BY THE AMERICANS).

Interesting on how it was torture by the Soviets but when we do it-not so.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:55 PM
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34. Here's a link:
INTERVIEWS:
Scott Shane on U.S. Interrogation Techniques
Journalist Scott Shane writes for The New York Times about terrorism and the CIA's interrogation techniques. His article "Soviet-Style 'Torture' Becomes 'Interrogation'" describes how the United States has adopted interrogation techniques that it decried when they were used by the Soviet Union.

INTERVIEWS:
McKelvey Talks of Terror and Torture
Author Tara McKelvey interviewed former prisoners from Abu Ghraib for her book Monstering: Inside America's Policy of Secret Interrogations and Torture in the Terror War McKelvey is senior editor at The American Prospect and a research fellow at the NYU School of Law's Center on Law and Security.

http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:04 PM
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36. The EVIL CHIMP ...STILL HAS FOLKS MESMERIZED...they Love the way he talks
and walks with his "codpiece between his legs" and the only grumbling that the polls show is that folks are starting to "wonder about him."

He SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE LONG AGO...In FACT, he shouldn't have been P-Resident! And even after almost two terms...NO ONE HAS BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE!

WHY? WHY? WHY??? Can ANYONE EXPLAIN it in RATIONAL TERMS? :crazy:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:02 PM
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37. FWIW: Here is the last thing I read from the APA on torture from 2006

Title: Psychological Ethics and National Security: The Position of the American Psychological Association., By: Behnke, Stephen, European Psychologist, 2006, Vol. 11, Issue 2

Psychological Ethics and National Security : The Position of the American Psychological Association
By: Stephen Behnke
American Psychological Association

Electronic Mail may be sent to: sbehnke@apa.org.

For over 20 years, the American Psychological Association's position has been clear and unwavering: It is unethical for a psychologist to participate in torture or other cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment, under any circumstances, at any time, for any reason. There are no exceptions. A state or threat of war, a national emergency, or a law, regulation, or order can never justify a psychologist's participation in any of these acts. They are always forbidden.

This position is found in numerous American Psychological Association (APA) resolutions and statements, including a 1985 Joint Resolution Against Torture with the American Psychiatric Association, a 1986 APA Resolution Against Torture, and a 2005 Report of the APA Presidential Task Force on Psychological Ethics and National Security. The APA Ethics Committee, Board of Directors, and Council of Representatives have all resoundingly affirmed this position against torture or other cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment.

In addition to these ethical prohibitions, psychologists have an ethical responsibility to be alert to and report any acts of torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment to the authorities.

Consistent with its position on this issue, the APA strongly supported passage of the McCain Amendment. The McCain Amendment states that “No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment,” and has been adopted as United States law.

In 2004, media reports raised concerns regarding the role of psychologists and health professionals in national security-related settings. Following these stories closely, APA President Ron Levant, EdD (Doctor of Education) concluded it was critical for the APA to issue specific guidelines regarding psychologists' involvement in national security-related activities. Dr. Levant believes that the APA has a responsibility to address the ethical challenges facing psychologists in all areas of their professional work, a responsibility found in the APA's Bylaws:

The objects of the American Psychological Association shall be to advance psychology as a science and profession and as a means of promoting health, education, and human welfare .. . by the improvement of the qualifications and usefulness of psychologists through high standards of ethics .. . by the establishment and maintenance of the highest standards of professional ethics and conduct of the members of the Association .. . 1

To fulfill this responsibility, Dr. Levant called for the establishment of a task force on psychological ethics and national security (the “PENS” Task Force) to examine this issue and to set forth clear lines separating what behaviors are acceptable and what behaviors are not acceptable for psychologists.

Dr. Levant identified two priorities for membership on the PENS Task Force. First, it was important for the Task Force to have individuals with extensive experience in national security-related work, so the Task Force would have the information it needed to consider the issues in depth and issue a report with clear ethical guidance. Second, the Task Force would include individuals with very different backgrounds and perspectives, so that all points of view would be discussed and challenged in the process of coming to particular positions.

The Task Force endorsed the important contributions that psychologists, as experts in human behavior, are poised to make in national defense-related settings when they act within strict ethical guidelines. According to the Task Force report “Psychologists have a valuable and ethical role to assist in protecting our nation, other nations, and innocent civilians from harm, which will at times entail gathering information that can be used in our nation's and other nations' defense.” Central to its ethical analysis, the Task Force stated that psychologists are bound by the APA Ethics Code in all their professional activities, regardless of whether they identify themselves as “behavioral scientists,” “behavioral consultants,” or some other term when they make these important contributions. This point is critical – psychologists are bound by the Ethics Code regardless of how they identify themselves. Thus, while psychologists have a valuable and ethical role to play in contributing to national defense, they always work under the Ethics Code and are bound by its strictures. Psychologists may never “opt out” of or avoid their ethical obligations.

The Task Force set out 12 statements regarding the ethical role of psychologists in national security-related activities. The report's 12 statements are derived directly from the APA Ethics Code. These 12 statements are:

1.
Psychologists do not engage in, direct, support, facilitate, or offer training in torture or other cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment.
2.
Psychologists are alert to acts of torture and other cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment and have an ethical responsibility to report these acts to the appropriate authorities.
3.
Psychologists who serve in the role of supporting an interrogation do not use health care-related information from an individual's medical record to the detriment of the individual's safety and well-being.
4.
Psychologists do not engage in behaviors that violate the laws of the United States, although psychologists may refuse for ethical reasons to follow laws or orders that are unjust or that violate basic principles of human rights.
5.
Psychologists are aware of and clarify their role in situations where the nature of their professional identity and professional function may be ambiguous.
6.
Psychologists are sensitive to the problems inherent in mixing potentially inconsistent roles such as health care provider and consultant to an interrogation, and refrain from engaging in such multiple relationships.
7.
Psychologists may serve in various national security-related roles, such as a consultant to an interrogation, in a manner that is consistent with the Ethics Code, and when doing so psychologists are mindful of factors unique to these roles and contexts that require special ethical consideration.
8.
Psychologists who consult on interrogation techniques are mindful that the individual being interrogated may not have engaged in untoward behavior and may not have information of interest to the interrogator.
9.
Psychologists make clear the limits of confidentiality.
10.
Psychologists are aware of and do not act beyond their competencies, except in unusual circumstances, such as set forth in the Ethics Code.
11.
Psychologists clarify for themselves the identity of their client and retain ethical obligations to individuals who are not their clients.
12.
Psychologists consult when they are facing difficult ethical dilemmas.

Thus far, APA is the only mental health organization in the United States that has stepped forward to issue clear ethical guidance on its members' involvement in national security-related activities. Other mental health and medical associations are examining this issue, but none has yet adopted an official position.

Following the release of the PENS Task Force report in June 2005, a number of individuals commented on the report. Mildred Solomon, EdD, an ethicist from Harvard Medical School, described APA's Task Force report as “an impressive first step” and called upon other health associations to follow “the principled actions of the APA.” Other characterizations, some in prominent publications, have unfortunately grossly mischaracterized the Task Force report.

An essay in the Lancet was highly critical of APA's position, yet the author had mischaracterized the report to such an extent that the Lancet subsequently agreed to post a response from APA on its website. The Lancet essay stated “In effect, it becomes acceptable for a health professional to dispense with any ethical responsibilities when their training and expertise is used outside a strictly therapeutic context.” In reality, the report explicitly and emphatically takes precisely the opposite position. The report states “As a context for its statements, the Task Force affirmed that when psychologists serve in any position by virtue of their training, experience, and expertise as psychologists, the APA Ethics Code applies. The Task Force thus rejected the contention that when acting outside traditional health-service-provider relationships, psychologists are not acting in a professional capacity as psychologists and are, therefore, not bound by the APA Ethics Code.” The report's language is crystal clear: The Ethics Code applies to all of a psychologist's professional activities.

The PENS Task Force fully acknowledged the complexity of the issues involved and the necessity of addressing competing interests. Ethical Principle B in the APA Ethics Code, Fidelity and Responsibility, states that psychologists “are aware of their professional and scientific responsibilities to society.” Psychologists have a valuable and ethical role to assist in protecting our nation, other nations, and civilians from harm. This role will sometimes entail gathering information that can be used in our nation's and other nations' defense, which is appropriate when psychologists act in accordance with the PENS Task Force statements. Psychologists working in the area of national security-related investigations are in a unique position to assist in ensuring that processes are safe, legal, ethical, and effective for all participants. Thus, psychologists both protect innocent life and always abide by the clear strictures against torture and cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment. In other words, whenever a psychologist fulfills a responsibility to society, the psychologist does so abiding by Principle A in the APA Ethics Code, “Do no harm.”

The Task Force report addressed a number of other aspects of psychologists' involvement in national security-related activities. The Task Force emphasized the role of culture and ethnicity by underscoring that an awareness of and sensitivity to the role of culture and ethnicity minimizes the likelihood of harm and bias while maximizing the likelihood that the information gathering process will be safe and effective. The Task Force emphasis on an understanding of culture and ethnicity and the central role they play in this work is highly consistent with the current APA Ethics Code. The Task Force also addressed a number of other critical issues that are relevant to psychologists, such as:

*
how particular settings may instill a profound sense of powerlessness and may compromise an individual's capacity to assert interests and rights;
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that psychologists retain ethical obligations to all those involved in an interrogation or information-gathering process;
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how a setting's ambiguity, combined with high stress, may facilitate behaviors that cross the boundaries of ethical propriety;
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that a willingness to take responsibility for one's own ethical behavior will help ensure that the national security-related activities of psychologists are safe, legal, ethical, and effective;
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that it is especially important to provide ethical guidance and support to psychologists at the beginning of their careers, when they may experience pressures to engage in unethical or inappropriate behaviors in national security-related settings that they are likely to find difficult to resist;
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that psychologists should engage in further research, one focus of which should be to examine the psychological effects of conducting interrogations on the interrogators themselves, in order to explore ways of helping to ensure that the process of gathering information remains within strict ethical boundaries.

In a list of recommendations at the end of its report, the Task Force urged APA to continue to think through these very challenging issues and consider the report an “initial step in addressing the very complicated and challenging ethical dilemmas that confront psychologists working in national security-related activities.” The Task Force explained: “Viewed as an initial step in a continuing process, this report will ideally assist APA to engage in thoughtful reflection of complex ethical considerations in an area of psychological practice that is likely to expand significantly in coming years.” The APA believes that its work exploring and understanding the ethical aspects of these complex issues will continue, and that by embracing our responsibility to provide ethical guidance in this area of practice, the APA will serve both the public and psychologists well.

The Task Force report can be found at: http://www.apa. org/releases/PENSTaskForceReportFinal.pdf
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:41 PM
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38. Thanks for posting this. Who knows if there's wiggle room or not in these
guidelines. I can't evaluate the document although they seem intent on defining torture or cruel or unusual punishment out of their association's endorsed realm. However, what they want is secondary to what is actually going on in this situation. The clinicians can do whatever they choose and APA can't stop it. They can be clear about it. With the associaiton it's a combination of factors, ethics, politics, etc. With the individuals who participate in causing others inordinate distress or developing techniques to do so, it comes down to an individual choice, one these people will have to live with even if they're not formally reprimanded by any body including APA.

Good addition to the discussion.
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:16 AM
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47. That's the point...
some of these psychologists can "live with it" just fine. Black and white thinking is bad; flexibility is good. Living with one's decisions just means making the most of each situation, and by golly, if they practice what they preach, they've determined just how to play the war game to their personal aggrandizement. After all, everything that happens is just a phase, a temporary situation, not a permanent solution. This too shall pass! They've all forgiven themselves and washed their hands of the guilt for not speaking up, doing more, etc. and pass the culpability along on up the line. Underneath it all, they know this war can be a giant gravy train for them as they collect kudos and bucks for helping to maintain dutiful soldiers who OBEY orders (Stanford experiments, anyone?) and then, returning to civilian life, they can get paid the big bucks an hour to treat both the war-related PSTD's that live to tell about it (or not, tell that is), pick up big stipends and royalties from presentations and, shudder, books, reap professional recognition from colleagues, and then turn right around and treat all other sorts of civilian-type mental illnesses of the predisposed that have suffered all manner of cruelties that can be directly traced to the policies, deceptions, and irregular treatments that were heaped up at home. Everybody's plate is FULL! Everybody's been wounded in some way, even if they don't know it yet. IMO, only sociopaths and the intractable selfish could keep their "beautiful minds" serene in the face of the crimes against humanity that have been perpetrated by this $%@%^ administration.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:12 PM
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56. Thanks for this!
I mentioned some of this in another post, but didn't know all the aspects that you mention!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:29 PM
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41. kick for sunlight and sanity
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:32 PM
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42. K&R.nt
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:17 AM
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48. Is it OK to say Hitler or Stalin out loud yet?
Or must we still mutter it under our breath?

What is the proper fashion of speech in this type of nation?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:39 AM
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52. Psychologists aren't MDs...
...and don't take the Hippocratic Oath.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:06 PM
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54. True; but they have their own professional societies, with their own codes of conduct
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 12:11 PM by LeftishBrit
The British Psychological Society has an extensive code of ethics, which requires, among much else, that members 'avoid harming clients'. Serious breaches of ethics can lead to disciplinary proceedings and expulsion from the society. I would assume that the APA has a similar code.

ETA: Yes, it does. Here's a press release from 2006 which is highly relevant to this issue. Clearly, any psychologist who has been involved in these practices has broken the society's ethical code; and I hope will be subject to the severest disciplinary penalties from the APA, in addition to those that they may receive from the courts.

http://www.apa.org/releases/notorture.html
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:11 PM
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55. Calling Scott Peck: here's a case of human evil that should be studied!!!
This makes me sick! This administration and all who have cooperated with it should be damned to Gitmo the rest of their natural lives!!!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:45 PM
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60. afternoon kick
It's hard to believe that Americans do this torture. What has happened to us as a society?
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