Government-Run Health Care Subsidizes Moore’s ‘Sicko’ Lifestyle

[LeighAnn]

Source: Business Wire

In the wake of Michael Moore’s new film ‘Sicko’ in which he advocates for a universal, government-run system, FreedomWorks announced its campaign to educate citizens on the economic impact of his plan.

Moore’s approach would make the government responsible for providing health care to all Americans. The huge cost would be born by taxpayers, and the bill would run in the trillions of dollars. Healthy individuals that require minimal care would wind up subsidizing people like Moore, who are overweight and/or live decidedly unhealthy lifestyles by frequenting fast-food restaurants, smoke, or use drugs.

As ‘Sicko’ begins screening in the United States, FreedomWorks’ nationwide grassroots army of nearly 850,000 activists and supporters will assist in the campaign of truth by handing out information at movie theaters that exposes Moore’s hypocrisy, points out the problems associated with government-run health care, and promotes the FreedomWorks solution of removing existing government barriers that prevent Americans from being able to use the free market to choose the care that suits their individual needs. The government is too involved in the health decisions between patients and their doctors already, and this has driven up prices and denied individuals the right to make health care choices for themselves and their families.

In the 2008 election cycle, Americans will have a choice between market based reforms that empower individuals and families, or socializing health care and turning it over to bureaucrats. FreedomWorks activists will educate voters and target candidates for Congress and the White House in 2008, urging them to reject the concept of universal health care.

Read more: http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070620006144&newsLang=en

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Rots o' Ruck... sorry for posting such horrid propaganda, but I thought it best to be ready for these morons.

[alfredo]

1. They've been saying that since they first found out about

him making a movie on healthcare.

[Warpy]

2. What a pinched, snotty, nasty little article.

Yes, we're going to subsidize folks who make corporations as fat as they are by making bad but legal choices. Yes, we're going to subsidize people who chose the wrong parents and have ticking time bombs in their genes. So fucking what?

Business Week has their collective grey flannel knickers in a knot because what national health insurance won't do is subsidize executives who want to live like Sultans.

Fuck 'em.

[papau]

29. The GOP's Dick Armey runs the outfit that put out the blurb quote by the OP

FreedomWorks, founded in 1984 and described as a 501c4 "grassroots organization," is chaired by former U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey.

[Jackpine Radical]

3. Nice of the enemy to identify themselves.

Time to get a look into their finances. Who is FreedomWorks, anyway? Bet they have just a little hint of insurance co. money behind them.

[PassingFair]

9. "FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey"

Not NeoCons, apparently. Old school "drown gov't in the
bathtub-type" conservative assholes.

snip>

In the 1990’s, FreedomWorks (formerly Citizens for a Sound Economy) led a successful campaign against Hillary Clinton’s attempt to pass universal health care. The group followed then first-lady Clinton to rallies that she hosted when she promoted her plan with a broken-down ambulance that illustrated why government-run health care won’t work.

FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey commented....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Armey

On the positive side....he IS funny, and he HATES Dobson.

Here is one of his famous quotes, from Wiki:

snip> In 1998, during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, a reporter asked him what he would do if he were in President Bill Clinton's position. He replied "If I were in the President's place I would not have gotten a chance to resign. I would be laying in a pool of my own blood, hearing Mrs. Armey standing over me saying, 'How do I reload this damn thing?'"

[endarkenment]

4. yeah i've got 1,000,000 saved up in case I need a new heart.

what total bullshit. Every other major industrial democracy has some form of national health insurance and delivers better healthcare services at a lower per capita cost. Total crap from the right, as usual.

[bemildred]

5. Meet the public spirited folks at FreedomWorks:

http://www.freedomworks.org/

[ozymandius]

12. Ahhhh! My eyes!

Twenty seconds looking at the main page tells me these folks are as kind hearted as the hideous Club for Growth.

[Jackpine Radical]

22. Dumb shit.

You clicked on the link, didn't you?

[ozymandius]

24. I did. I clicked. Then I puked.

That agenda's gonna leave a scab on my retina.

[pnorman]

13. Freedomworks.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks
and
http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=1497377
and
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=23333
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomWorks

pnorman

[mrreowwr_kittty]

14. Wow, I didn't know Satan had a website n/t

[AzDar]

6. 'Market-based reforms'.... have worked so well, haven't they?

:sarcasm:

[Raven]

7. Funny, they don't seem to mind spending taxpayers' money on

war. Go figure.

[ozymandius]

8. Healthcare is already in the hands of bureaucrats.

Bureaucrats working for insurance companies make healthcare decisions for nearly everyone in order to maximize profits for their shareholders. How much is one human life worth? Just ask an insurance company. They make these decisions every day.

[ProudDad]

34. Those health insurance company bureaucrats

decide that 18,000 people a year who would otherwise live, should DIE...to pump up the bottom line...

[kestrel91316]

10. LOL, who the hell do they think is ALREADY paying for overpriced

charity care for the folks who don't have insurance right now? Society has two choices: it can pay up front, or it can pay later. Guess which is more expensive?

[Justitia]

15. Bingo. Let's catch stuff early, when it's less expensive & not coming thru the ER. -eom

[redqueen]

20. Exactly... we're already paying.

These assholes count on ignorance... they rely on it. Ugh...

[Beartracks]

37. True, very true. There are HUGE societal costs...

... with having people who get sick because they can't afford health care or insurance.

AND.... who the heck can argue that managed health care represents an ABSENCE of bureaucracy?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

11. "FreedomWorks activists will educate voters...." Gosh they sure sound grassroot-sy

I bet there are no corporate shills working for that outfit. Nope. No way. :eyes:

[Wiley50]

16. First Thought: "Those... Fucking... Bastards!"

Second thought: " we've got to expose these fuckers for the corporate suck- ass astroturf BS they are

Third Thought: i bet Mike has long ago expected this and has a handle on how to fight back

Fourth Thought: We'vee all got to back Mike up on this

[LeighAnn]

26. We can back him up on 6/29

He needs big box office... I heard him saying that how well the film does opening weekend will decide how many screens it will be showing on in the long run. So we've got to turn up in big numbers, just like F-911.

[unpossibles]

17. beyond the hyperbole and scare tactics

oh wait - that's all there is.

'BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT!!"

No shit, sherlock. We already pay for it - those of us with insurance already pay a lot more than people in other industrialized nations who receive better care. Sure, my health care costs may not be called a "tax" but they sure are taxing, not to mention prohibitively expensive and a pain in the ass to use. Even worse, if you do need help, you're fucked even more.

[alstephenson]

18. Subsidizing Moore's SICKO lifestyle???

Actually I saw him on TV and he looks great - he's lost quite a bit of weight and looks quite healthy to me. I think he said he is watching what he eats and taking a walk every day and it's made a world of difference.

[Vinca]

19. " . . . and the bill would run in the trillions of dollars"

War, health care, war, health care, war health care. I think I'll take health care, Alex.

[Blue_Tires]

21. 850,000 activists?

bull-fuckin'-shit

[LeighAnn]

32. Yeah, that seemed kind of high

I thought about "volunteering", just for the sake of not showing up. Should I?

[superconnected]

23. The problem with gov subsidized health care is the corrupt no bid

contracts presidents like bush would hand out, and the drain of billions out of the treasury for that.

I'm surprised Bush hasn't embraced the idea yet.

[KingOfLostSouls]

25. The usual suspects

Healthy individuals that require minimal care would wind up subsidizing people like Moore, who are overweight and/or live decidedly unhealthy lifestyles by frequenting fast-food restaurants, smoke, or use drugs.



obviously they haven't seen rush limbaugh or newt gingrich's waistlines lately...

[pitohui]

27. moore has a "lifestyle"????

who knew? to me he looks like a typical endomorph who has real work to do and can't spend two hours jogging or cutting brush every day like our pretzeldent

these people are way behind the curve, i hate to tell them but if they are going after the thin, non smoker, non drinker, non meat eating, non caffeine drinking vote, they had better stay in utah and forget about the rest of the world because EVERYBODY is going to hate them

their argument is == you will never get sick, you will never die, so why should you pay for universal health care, in other words, an argument only attractive to delusional fuckwits who haven't noticed yet that skinny people get sick too -- and in fact we have increased risks from some diseases like osteoporosis

[Generator]

28. So what, smokers, fat people and the poor (always) are the new Jews?

You know the evil insidious ones that ruin it for the skinny rich non smokers. Why don't they just bring back the Colosseum and have us at each other? Because BY GOD I know as an "AMERICAN" I don't have to subsidize those sicko "lifestyles". And I didn't even mention the sick people-because clearly only us with the good genes-you know the master race-never get sick. Clearly my genes are screwed up because if I had better ones with KARMA I wouldn't have been born in this lame ass mean evil in denial about how "great" it is piece of shit country.

[nodehopper]

30. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

[PA Democrat]

31. Corporate thieves subsidize FreedomWorks lobbying lifestyle masked as

a public interest non-profit.

Dick Armey, the chairman of FreedomWorks is a lobbyist and has used this organization to push his clients' agendas in the past.

Oh, and the guy who owns Cancer Treatment Centers of America is on the board. I'm sure HE doesn't have a personal agenda. :eyes:

[PSPS]

33. Trillions? Hardly. Plus, tax hike would be less than you'd save on private insurance premiums.

In other words, there would be a net savings with single-payer funded by general tax revenue.

Health Insurance used to be "pooled risk." That's the way it is supposed to work. What we've got now is not real health insurance because it doesn't conform to the "pooled risk" model.

[Gopens]

35. If market-based healthcare works so great

Then how come no other Western nations are lining up to switch to it? Poll after poll after poll shows residents of countries with single-payer plans may say their systems have problems here or there, but when asked if they'd like to switch to an American-style system, they can't say NO fast enough!

The whole release mischaracterizes the entire issue, something the right is very adept at doing. It's not government-provided healthcare, it's government-PAID-FOR healthcare, which means WE pay for it, only we bypass the health insurance vipers, thank god.

And the cost, WTF is up with that? Our government already spends more on healthcare than those European single-payer nations, and we get NONE of the benefit from it!

Plus, when will the "Hillary-tried-to-force-universal-healthcare-on-us" lie ever be debunked? It wasn't universal healthcare, it was a bureaucratic mess of a plan that was a sop to the major insurance carriers, which sounds like something these tools at "freedomworks" would love.

Sigh. I can't stand all the damned lies.

[rodeodance]

36. 850,000 activists and supporters!! could it be that large?? whow

[Canuckistanian]

38. Another "Michael Moore is fat" article

They're really scared this time.