Its gonna' be fun to watch when the big dick and w tells us all

[madokie]

they are from this point onward the dictators, the kings if you will. They have been laying the ground work for the takeover since day one. At some point they have to announce their intentions because they will be going to the crossbar hotel once they leave the white house, what, with all the laws they've broken how else can it be. Our Constitution is written taking into account scroundrels such as we have in the executive office now and it can and will stand the test. bushco* is going down and its going to be fun to watch

[frogcycle]

1. there are those who disagree

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1172650&mesg_id=1172650

its not going to be that easy

the Constitution is NOT equipped to deal with what these people have done.

[madokie]

3. I think there is a point where all the shit pulled these last few years

will have to be rolled back, I'm hoping anyway

[Whoa_Nelly]

4. I am hoping as well

Hoping that our next ELECTED president will take action to begin undoing the damage BushCo has done to our nation.

[madokie]

10. I guess one could say my hope is centered on Big Al

being our next elected President. He I trust a hundred percent to put country first

[Whoa_Nelly]

13. And I am looking to Edwards

While I completely admire Gore for his intelligence and insight, I don't think he will be throwing his hat in the ring.

My hope lies with Edwards.

Either of these potential presidents would work hard to bring transparency back to our government that is for the people and by the people.

[ananda]

15. If Gore doesn't run..

.. I would easily vote for Edwards.

Sue

[madokie]

17. I like Edwards too

I won't have any problems with any of our candidates but I do have a preference al First, Edwards second and Richardson third. I really would like to see Richardson as our Secretary of State at the least, the man is a good diplomat, one of the best out there imo

[Individualist]

8. We've gone beyond that point, and the criminals are still in charge.

[DURHAM D]

6. Perhaps that is a reason to leave Gitmo open.

Declare those two psychos enemy combatants and get them off my dirt. Take Gonzo and the WH staff with 'em.

[wiggs]

22. Agree. Constitution did not anticipate rogue fascist cabal aligned with media. nt

[madokie]

24. I don' t think I myself can put up with much more of this and I think there is a lot of folks like

me on that. but who knows for sure so I cling to all the hope I can muster, its all I have

[C_U_L8R]

2. what are the odds

that there will actually
be a 2008 election ?

And is there a market on
on tin foil futures? :-)

[madokie]

7. the biggest mistake I made in life was not investing in the tinfoil ;-)

because I sure use a lot of it. I'm hearing and reading more and more about folks waking up, and this waking up I speak of grows exponentially too.

[C_U_L8R]

20. That and popcorn !

[madokie]

23. well yea beer too

hell all the spirits ;-)

[C_U_L8R]

25. cheers

:toast: :beer: :toast: :beer: :toast: :beer: :toast:

[atreides1]

5. It won't be fun at all

Unfortunately the Constitution can only survive, providing those that have sworn to support, defend, and uphold it fulfill their oath. Which means that the US Congress now has to fight back and put impeachment back on the table, it also means that the US military has to do what they have all sworn an oath to do.

But the reality is that the Congress won't do anything and the military will eventually follow orders when they are told to turn their guns on the very same American people that they like to believe that they are defending from the big bad Jihadists.

We already know that most of the police forces in this country would like nothing better then to arrest people without having to go through all the hassles of getting a warrent or even providing probable cause, that a good portion of the military would willingly fire on their fellow Americans because they have been swimming in the kool-aid for the last 6 years, and they would believe that what they are doing by killing a few is for the good of all.

But, the one thing that both of these men have forgotten, is that there can only be one King, and the fun part will be watching as they try to destroy each other, the part that won't be so much fun is that they will be putting the final bullet into this failed experiment called Democracy!!!!

[Individualist]

11. Sometimes I hate being a realist,

don't you? I agree with you 100%. As long as there's no opposition, the cabal will remain in control.

[madokie]

12. I don't think when it comes down to it that the american people will stand

for any radical changes to our way of government, I just don't think they will. again, I'm hoping anyway

[frogcycle]

16. i hope too, but

the lessons of history are not encouraging

the fact that hitler was ELECTED, and that the "good germans" went along and went along and went along, only to, after the war, claim they disapproved...


i just don't know.

[madokie]

18. I hear what you're saying

I guess its the big Dogs fault afterall for showing me how good it can be and can only imagine how good it could have been if not for the re:puke:s

[soothsayer]

9. 100% chance that would incur a military coup. Our military would not allow this.

[TahitiNut]

14. It's worth noting again that they're following an (alleged) "business model" ...

... at least the "business model" of fly-by-night, pillage-and-burn, privateering "businesses" at the most corrupt end of the spectrum. Instead of the "vertical integration" demonstrated by Ford and others, it's out-sourcing of everything and a "manager-as-middleman-broker" of everything and operational expertise in nothing. It's the "business model" of the 80s - mergers, acquisitions, hostile takeovers, leveraged buyouts, and 'strategic' bankruptcies with conglomeration.

Remember, Enron was more than 500 corporate entities, each a firewalled entity under varying regulatory regimes, under one corporate "umbrella." Lay, Skilling, et. al. had NO ACCOUNTABILITY (in their own minds) and the employees were just something to be exploited both for their labor and as 'investors.' Breaking the law was merely a risk/reward analysis - worth doing if the profits warranted. There is NO MORALITY (other than profit) in their "business model." They didn't answer to the Board of Directors - they RAN the Board of Directors (or enough of it to ignore it). There is a litany of ways in which the "business model" is an insanely corrupt one for government ... particularly since bankruptcy is a strategy and not a 'failure.'

[frogcycle]

33. well said

unfortunately this "business model" has become all too prevalent. lack of accountability in top - and middle - management seems to be one of the basic principles taught in business schools in the past decade or so. i think it is no coincidence - part of the broad redefinition of society promoted by the so-called conservatives: The world, and most of the human population, exists for the enrichment of the chosen few. Period. Anything goes.

[Cass]

19. You know, a friend and I were talking about this just the other day.

We came to the conclusion that they didn't go to all the trouble of laying the groundwork to just walk away from it in '08. They either will suspend the election, or more likely, will steal another presidential election to remain in power (that's what my money is on). There's no way they would let all this unchecked power fall in the laps of a democrat or a 'rogue' republican.

[madokie]

21. it all points to them not leaving

out of power and they are cooked goose's. As long as Senator Leahy or Represantive Waxman or Conyers, to name a few, are alive they are going to be on their heels. I hear their determination in their voices and see it in their eyes. dick and w has no idea what is coming their way and I feel real comfortable in saying that

[RufusEarl]

27. I hope you're right Madokie,

but the people you named are the only people standing in the way of a dictatorship.
I hope they start getting help from the right, politicians that still believe they should put country before party.

[madokie]

29. yes for the most part the rest has layed down and rolled over on their bellies

I refuse to do that as are many others here and elsewhere. This cabal has been setting the stage since way back before Kennedy, in fact I think they could be tied in with the assination of Kennedy, remember it was tricky dick that he beat out in the election of '60, so someone had nefarious ideas way back there, they never show their faces either. Check out the way dead eye does business and you can see a cultivated purpose in what he does. his eye has always been on the ball right from the getgo
:hi:

[frogcycle]

30. I wrote something a year or so ago along those lines...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2877824#2878453

[treestar]

26. Would people really take that?

Or would they march in the streets?

I think we need to study the Russians at the time of the fall of the USSR. They got rid of an established tyranny. So why can't we, in the land of the free, immediately rebuff a newly established tyranny.

I hope we are not that passive.

We should be having huge demonstrations. How do we start this? Somebody must still be around from the 60s and know.

[madokie]

28. I'm from the sixties but have no idea where to start

I do know that for me I have about hit the place where I can't live with myself any longer with out doing something, what, I don't know, about this overthrow of our government after all that is whats going on, imo

[RufusEarl]

32. As a 60's hippie i remember why we the people went to the streets

It all started on college campuses, because of the draft. This cabal would never entertain the idea of a draft, because they remember well what happen during those turbulent times.

I certainly don't advocate a draft, but that's the only way i see to ever get people in the streets again, we've become complacent society.

[madrchsod]

31. they are leaving?

why would they leave? they control the entire government.