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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:00 PM
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Can the White House stop a FORMER aide from testifying?
And if not, then couldn't trying to prevent one from testifying be construed to be an obstruction of justice?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:03 PM
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1. potentially
executive priviledge can hold even if the person is no longer a White House employee.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:03 PM
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2. what if that employee didnt work under an executive office?
:D
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:04 PM
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3. Unless you're Bill Clinton
If I remember correctly, the SCOTUS ruled that if subpoenaed, then aides could testify.

Apparently, it's ok to show contempt of Congress when you are a Republican.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:09 PM
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4. well, it all comes down...
to what the definition of executive priviledge is. in the Clinton case, it was claimed innappropriately, the court ruled (and should do the same here, if questioned about it, actually)

if EP is legitimate, you can prevent the unwilling testimony, if it's not, you can't prevent unwilling testimony.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:12 PM
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6. Also comes down to what the definition of 'stop' is.
Personally, I doubt there is anything they wouldn't do to cover their own asses. What is another body or three on the already hideous pile they are building for power and money?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:10 PM
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5. Let me check the "unitary executive" manuel.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:15 PM
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7. Has Ashcroft stopped Sibel Edmonds from testifying?
I think that is your answer. If a person were going to voluntarily testify, a gag order would be issued.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:18 PM
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9. CONGRESS has never subpoenaed her
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 12:18 PM by Freddie Stubbs
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:21 PM
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10. Good point. If they did, would the gag order apply?
I really don't know, I'm curious. All the people in the whitehouse are totally loyal to chimpy.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:25 PM
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12. Only one way to find out
I wonder what they are waiting for.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:18 PM
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8. With enough anthrax, you can stop anyone. nt
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:24 PM
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11. geeeeeez, you people don't get it, do you? The White House can do ANYTHING IT WANTS to do...
...just ask Dicktator Cheney!

explanitorially,
Bright
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:31 PM
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13. as i understand it
"Executive privilege" is not anywhere defined in law. It is just a tradition.

I don't know that they could actually stop anyone from starting to blab if they wanted to. There may be nondisclosure clauses in contracts they signed, so they might be able to sue, maybe even get a court to issue a gag order. Then the person could blab anyway, and be subject to jail for contempt.

What the hell, reporters have gone to jail on principle. We need to find a former staffer who was truly disgusted and ready to be a martyr (and get filthy rich on the book deal). Somehow I think if someone broke silence, the flood of info might overwhelm any punitive actions that might be tried. The person should be more worried about being "disappeared" than about going to jail.

and I think "executive privilege" is SUPPOSED to protect private conversations that might include opinions, deliberations prior to a decision that might embarrass, etc. It is not supposed to put a "cone of silence" over everything that occurs in the White House.

What we have now is that so many bogus claims have been made under oath and otherwise, that they dare not answer "what dy is it?" for fear of self-contradiction.
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