Lou Dobbs just lost me forever. Never again will I look at that

[rzemanfl]

ass (who bears an uncanny resemblance to a cousin of mine I never got along with). "We will respect their privacy. Now on to more terror." Fuck you Lou!

[chelsea0011]

1. and with Lou that must mean Mexicans

[DS1]

2. You don't think he was being sarcastic?

I don't watch CNN, just asking because I have seen him before.

[rzemanfl]

8. Not a chance. n/t

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Vitter was a major anti-immigrant player.

That's why Dobbs is doing what Dobbs does.

[MADem]

4. I voted with my remote the second he said that, as well. NT

[rzemanfl]

7. Good for you. I almost voted with my remote by throwing it

through the picture tube.

[Maddy McCall]

5. Was it Lou who said that, or Wolf?

I must be confused.

:silly:

[rzemanfl]

6. It was Lou. n/t

[Maddy McCall]

9. Thanks.

[spanone]

10. he actually said that?

:hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts: :hurts:

[Richard Steele]

11. So, CRIMINAL acts are now "private". Remember when PRIVATE acts were grounds to impeach a President?

A REAL President too, not this posturing puppet who never won office.

It really is full-blown fascism now. Y'all realize that, right?

[AlCzervik]

12. by not covering the Vitter Diaper Debacle the terrorists have won and he's hurt the troops.

Why do you hate the troops and love Al-Quaeda Lou, huh, why?

[progressoid]

13. I Haven't had CNN for 4 months now. Don't miss it a bit.

[defendandprotect]

14. Why are you watching in the first place? Are you "monitoring" in a sense?

I'm amazed that anyone is watching MSM news --
Or the whole load of garbage that's available on TV -- ????

[rzemanfl]

18. I keep it on while on my computer, getting the straight shit. n/t

[KoKo]

15. Lou is a Libertarian/Corporatist.....he sounds good...but always rings flat

when you peek between his covers..to see what the Man really advocates.......:-( He had potential to talks about what really is going on in Middle Class America...but he can't let go of his corporate/Wall St. Roots enough to TELL THE TRUTH..... sad.

[brentspeak]

24. How is Dobbs a "Libertarian/Corporatist" when he's flat-out AGAINST the corporations & "free trade"?

Please explain this to me:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0446577448#customerReviews

Lou Dobbs - Exporting America: Why Corporate Greed Is Shipping American Jobs Overseas (Hardcover)

[joanski0]

16. Yes, I puked too, when he said he would respect

their privacy. No more Lou Dobbs. PU

[kevinbgoode]

17. We will, Lou? Just like you respected the privacy of the Schiavos?

I don't think so - and the public notices the media complicity with Republican moral turpitude.

[High Plains]

19. Yeah, I could tolerate his xenophobia, nativism, and faux populism

...but not going after the diaper man is a deal breaker!

Now, where's that sarcasm thingie?

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

20. You've just summed up the way I feel about Lou Dobbs.

The man has always been how you described him. He's a corporate tool.

What was take on Monica and Clinton? Was that a "private matter" too?

[brentspeak]

21. What the heck are you talking about?

BTW, Dobbs is an excellent commentator, one of the few honest ones this nation still has left.

[KoKo]

43. Oh Dear God....if he's the last honest commentator...we are done for....

:scared:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. I Don't Why Some At DU Embraced Him...

Some here have embraced some real "pieces of work" from Lou Dobbs to Chuck Hagel to Pat Buchanan... The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend...

[brentspeak]

23. Why is Dobbs an "enemy"?

???

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Because He's A Xenophobe And A Nativist For Starter

Like Pat Buchanan...

[brentspeak]

27. Proof?

[AlCzervik]

28. when he starts bitching about white illiegal immigrants then i still won't watch

his show but at least he'd be spreading it around.

[brentspeak]

30. Wait a minute. Dobbs is supposed to go after "white" illegal immigrants, and NOT illegal immigrants?

I'm trying to figure this out here.

[AlCzervik]

33. Lou Dobbs goes after brown skinned illegal immigrants only.

what part of that don't you get? BTW i know you got what i posted but clearly your implication is that Dobbs is correct.

[brentspeak]

38. Your logical fallacy doesn't make any sense. It's also a smear.

SALINAS: You're talking about Mexico. That means that you are against immigrants from Mexico.

DOBBS: I'm not against immigrants from Mexico. I'm not against immigrants from any part of the world. Point of fact, I embrace immigrants. The fact of the matter is, I love Mexico. I am against illegal immigration. I am against continuing the sham that is homeland security in which our ports are not secured, our borders are not secured. I think that this government should be held accountable.

http://aiross.blogspot.com/2006/03/lou-dobbs-racist.html

[AlCzervik]

39. oh really, a smear? The same Lou Dobbs that spread false facts about mexicans and leprosy?

that is a smear, the same Lou Dobbs that aligns himself with the minutemen group? I can see what side you come down on in this issue, cya.

[brentspeak]

40. Yeah, see ya. And don't let the race-card-baiting bite ya in the you-know-what.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. You prefer the old fashioned race baiting, eh?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

42. So what you're saying is...

Lou Dobbs is against illegal immigration, but he hasn't got a problem with illegal prostitution?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. Isn't his tirades against Mexicans enough?

eom

[brentspeak]

34. Can you be specific?

Like, an actual passage, which proves conclusively that Dobbs has something against illegal immigrants because of their ethnicity?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. See Post Thirty Two

eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Voila

He falsely said Mexicans are responsible for an outbreak of leprosy:


“The invasion of illegal aliens is threatening the health of many Americans,” Mr. Dobbs said on his April 14, 2005, program. From there, he introduced his original report that mentioned leprosy, the flesh-destroying disease — technically known as Hansen’s disease — that has inspired fear for centuries.

According to a woman CNN identified as a medical lawyer named Dr. Madeleine Cosman, leprosy was on the march. As Ms. Romans, the CNN correspondent, relayed: “There were about 900 cases of leprosy for 40 years. There have been 7,000 in the past three years.”

“Incredible,” Mr. Dobbs replied."



.....





To sort through all this, I called James L. Krahenbuhl, the director of the National Hansen’s Disease Program, an arm of the federal government. Leprosy in the United States is indeed largely a disease of immigrants who have come from Asia and Latin America. And the official leprosy statistics do show about 7,000 diagnosed cases — but that’s over the last 30 years, not the last three.

The peak year was 1983, when there were 456 cases. After that, reported cases dropped steadily, falling to just 76 in 2000. Last year, there were 137.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/30/business/30leonhardt.html?ex=1184731200&en=db972064ddaa643c&ei=5070

[brentspeak]

36. Oh, good. The David Leonhardt article.

After reading Leonhardt's article the morning it was published, I personally emailed Leonhardt, pointing out how he got his facts wrong:

My email to David Leonhardt:

You wrote:

> For one thing, Mr. Dobbs has a somewhat flexible relationship with reality. He has said http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0311/04/ldt.00.html, for example, that one-third of the inmates in the federal prison system are illegal immigrants. That’s wrong, too. According to the Justice Department http://ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/pjim05.pdf, 6 percent of prisoners in this country are noncitizens (compared with 7 percent of the population). For a variety of reasons, the crime rate is actually lower http://ideas.repec.org/p/fip/fedhwp/wp-05-19.html among immigrants than natives.

Dobbs, as you mentioned, was talking about the number of illegal immigrants in federal prisons. But the Justice Department figures of "6 percent of prisoners" which you quoted refer to illegal immigrants serving time in both federal and state prisons. If you had read the entire report, you would have come across this:

> At midyear 2005, 35,285 Federal
> inmates were noncitizens,
> representing about 19% of all
> prisoners in Federal custody.


"Federal", as not 'federal + state.'

So, on the percentage of illegal aliens residing in federal prisons, it appears both Dobbs and yourself don't seem to have the facts straight.

Sincerely...

Leonhardt's response to me :

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Indeed. I deal with the numbers in more detail here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/30/business/30leonside.html

At 09:01 AM 5/30/2007, you wrote: ....

In other words, Leonhardt, the guy you're citing as an authority on the topic of Lou Dobbs, didn't know what he was talking about -- something he admitted.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. More

As FAIR has noted in the past, Dobbs' tone on immigration is consistently alarmist; he warns his viewers (3/31/06) of Mexican immigrants who see themselves as an "army of invaders" intent upon reannexing parts of the Southwestern U.S. to Mexico, announces (11/19/03) that "illegal alien smugglers and drug traffickers are on the verge of ruining some of our national treasures," and declares (4/14/05) that "the invasion of illegal aliens is threatening the health of many Americans" through "deadly imports" of diseases like leprosy and malaria. And Dobbs makes no effort to provide a nuanced or balanced picture of the issue; as he told CNN Reliable Sources host Howard Kurtz (4/2/06): "I'm not interested—are you interested in six or seven views, or are you interested in the truth? Because that's what I'm interested in; that's what my viewers are interested in."


http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2867

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. Well, he's a bigot. That should be clue number one.

Secondly, he's an apologist for republican bigots, as evidenced by the OP. That should be clue number two.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

31. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner here.... n/t