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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 11:49 PM
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FINALLY! Iraq War Vets against the U.S. Government: DEPLETED URANIUM story CNN tomorrow morning!
CNN will have a story about Iraq War Vets coming home with strange diseases. The Vets are fighting the government over the Depleted Uranium issue which they believe has caused their illnesses and I'm guessing the Gov is denying any connection between the diseases and the DP. This is EXACTLY what Vietnam Vets had to go through with Agent Orange! It was years before the gov would even acknowledge the fact that Agent Orange could have caused their cancers/birth defects.

CNN's Morning Show with Soledad and what's his name, O'Brian....tomorrow.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:09 AM
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1. Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up. Veterans for Peace along with other groups have been trying to get the State Legislation to pass a through test for DU. It cost about 1200.00 a person.

Hope this show helps.
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annm4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:10 AM
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2. show time
AIRS: 6-9 a.m. ET Monday-Friday
CNN
Tuesday's show
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Some soldiers say they got sick serving in Iraq. Depleted uranium may be the culprit. Find out what some states are doing. Tune in starting at 6 a.m. ET.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/american.morning
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:36 PM
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10. Here's the transcript from CNN today.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0702/06/ltm.02.html

Don't have time to read it all right now, and missed the show. How was it? I think this is the same thing that happened to Vietnam vets, the government denied it because they did not want to pay for the health care.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:13 AM
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3. I hope these vets don't have to put up with years of stonewalling
like the Vietnam vets did. Or Gulf War I vets, come to think of it--isn't DU the cause of "Gulf War syndrome" that the government tried to claim didn't exist?
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:09 AM
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7. watch "Hidden Wars of Desert Storm" hiddenwars dot org
http://hiddenwars.org

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/07/0319225

"The Hidden Wars of Desert Storm" is a documentary by filmmakers Audrey Brohy and Gerard Ungerman. It tells the real story behind that war. It traces the illegal arming of Iraq by the US government. It traces the US use of depleted uranium, which many believe caused the sickening of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and US soldiers. It questions the Pentagon's propaganda. And it suggests the US government may have been more interested in Iraq's oil reserves the second largest in the world than ridding the world of an evil dictator. One US official described the oil fields as "too important to be left to Arabs."

"Hidden Wars of Desert Storm" is the culmination of a two-year investigation by the filmmakers. It answers questions about the Persian Gulf War using documents never before seen on television and backed by interviews with Desert-Storm Commander General Norman Schwarzkopf, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark, former UN Iraq Program Director Dennis Halliday, former chief UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter and many others.

Tape:

"Hidden Wars of Desert Storm," directed by Gerard Ungerman and Audrey Brohy, and narrated by John Hurt.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:18 AM
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4. Let's hope CNN wakes people up to this tragedy & WAR CRIME!


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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 12:33 AM
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5. I hope it a good report, but I'm not counting on it.
Most likely, they will dismiss it, and/or have a Bush Cabal denier on for most of the report.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:04 AM
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6. This transcript is from 2002.
We really have long needed a discussion on this issue. I wonder what they will come up with tomorrow. I really wonder if it will be honest and truthful. I hope so. I recommended your post.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/08/se.13.html

"BLITZER: Yesterday on this program, exactly this time, Dr. Helen Caldicott, an anti-war activist, pediatrician, was on this program saying that the U.S. Army's use of these depleted uranium shells, these tank shells during the Gulf War a dozen years ago have caused enormous problems, cancer problems for young kids in that -- in southern Iraq. What can you tell us about the dangers from these depleted uranium shells which, of course, are stock equipment in the U.S. Army?

CLARK: Well we've looked at this extensively over a number of years. We use it not only for the tank shells but also for the armor of the tanks because it's a very effective material. And the honest truth is depleted uranium has less radioactive material in it than naturally occurring uranium. There's been study after study after study done and none of it substantiates the claim that this depleted uranium causes cancer.

In fact, during the Gulf War we had a number of U.S. soldiers exposed to the dust of the depleted uranium shells after they had struck targets. I think some 60 soldiers in a study. They've been in this study since the Gulf War. There's no evidence of any sign of cancer there or any of the radiation types of cancer in those troops and we're continuing the study. But I think, although certainly any environmental hazard is a concern, there's no reason in this case to believe that depleted uranium is a significant environmental problem.

BLITZER: All right, General Clark, as always, thanks for joining us.

CLARK: Thank you, Wolf."
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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:13 PM
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8. Yikes. I wonder if Clark would say the same today. n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:30 PM
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11. Thanks for posting this transcript. n/t
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 01:22 PM
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9. There is a wealth of info on Depleted Uranium by scientists outside the US....
In my limited recollection, I know the US Army appointed one of their top officers in charge of a unit that would come up with a protocol for 'cleaning up' depleted uranium on the battlefield. He studied the product, and reported back to the top brass that it was 'impossible' to 'clean up and dispose of' and that it presented a substantial risk to not only civilians left to live with it, but to our own soldiers using it.

For his trouble, he lost his job, his job was eliminated, none of his findings were publicized.

There is no doubt that the depleted uranium has played a major role in so many soldiers discharged from the military after the First Gulf War, hundreds of thousands, to avoid addressing their health problems and care.

Use of Depleted Uranium armaments is the equivalent of setting off many 'dirty bombs' on the battlefield, and the handling of the armaments puts our troops at great risk.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:18 PM
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12. It needed to be posted.
I have more, but that transcript said it all.
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 02:03 AM
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14. It's probably even more dangerous than Bush's plastic turkey!
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:14 AM
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16. I think you're talking about Major Doug Rokke
An interview with Major Doug Rokke by Sunny Miller

Doug Rokke has a PhD in health physics and was originally trained as a forensic scientist. When the Gulf War started, he was assigned to prepare soldiers to respond to nuclear, biological, and chemical warfare, and sent to the Gulf. What he experienced has made him a passionate voice for peace, travelling the country to speak out. The following interview was conducted by the director of the Traprock Peace Center, Sunny Miller, supplemented with questions from YES! editors

QUESTION: Any viewer who saw the war on television had the impression this was an easy war, fought from a distance and soldiers coming back relatively unharmed. Is this an accurate picture?

ROKKE: At the completion of the Gulf War, when we came back to the United States in the fall of 1991, we had a total casualty count of 760: 294 dead, a little over 400 wounded or ill. But the casualty rate now for Gulf War veterans is approximately 30 percent. Of those stationed in the theater, including after the conflict, 221,000 have been awarded disability, according to a Veterans Affairs (VA) report issued September 10, 2002.

Many of the US casualties died as a direct result of uranium munitions friendly fire. US forces killed and wounded US forces.

We recommended care for anybody downwind of any uranium dust, anybody working in and around uranium contamination, and anyone within a vehicle, structure, or building that’s struck with uranium munitions. That’s thousands upon thousands of individuals, but not only US troops. You should provide medical care not only for the enemy soldiers but for the Iraqi women and children affected, and clean up all of the contamination in Iraq.

And it’s not just children in Iraq. It’s children born to soldiers after they came back home. The military admitted that they were finding uranium excreted in the semen of the soldiers. If you’ve got uranium in the semen, the genetics are messed up. So when the children were conceived—the alpha particles cause such tremendous cell damage and genetics damage that everything goes bad. Studies have found that male soldiers who served in the Gulf War were almost twice as likely to have a child with a birth defect and female soldiers almost three times as likely.

Continued at:
http://www.futurenet.org/article.asp?id=594
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:19 PM
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13. CNN Video clip
"Army made video warning about dangers of depleted uranium but never showed it to troops"

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/CNN_Agent_Orange_tame_compared_to_0206.html
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 07:25 AM
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17. The Pentagon brass might be heartless, but they sure aren't stupid
They know the grunts will have a hard concentrating on killing the enemy when they've got to worry about the peril of not just enemy fire, but their own fire as well.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:35 AM
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18. Sad but true. n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:53 AM
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15. Yikes. I have no good response.
Here's a kick.
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