You have a choice Nancy, give *ush the power to spy on Americans,

[dkofos]

thus, pissing on that quaint document that is the Constitution (again), or
tell him the Constitution and FREEDOM is more important than his fantasy of the war on terror.

Your political future depends on which you choose.

[acmavm]

1. Waiting for all the Pelosi supporters to explain how this is a

good thing.

:sarcasm:

[Individualist]

2. You can be sure they'll try to spin it

[dkofos]

4. I can hear the wheels grinding now.

[bigtree]

9. the defense of our Democratic Speaker depends on what, exactly, you're accusing her of

Pelosi said the House would work closely with the administration to pass a bill this week, but that it was important to keep "check and balances" between branches of government.

"It's about a branch of government having a check from another branch of government, in this case a judge having a warrant over the power of the president to collect information," she said.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/White_House_urges_Congress_to_quick_08012007.html


I see no sign that Bush has agreed to Democratic demands or expectations for whatever compromise they want. There's no sign, except for this political rhetoric about wanting a bill.


edit: link provided not related

[dkofos]

11. Slow down, cool off, and try again

[bigtree]

17. you're the one making all of the hot insinuations

without any specific reference to what she's actually negotiating or is willing to agree to.

Ya kinda of jumped to kick her with this one without any real news to back up the attack. Come back later and hit her with this when you find out what she's agreed to, if anything.

[dkofos]

19. BLAH BLAH Go back and read your post

[bigtree]

20. so, I said Bush instead of Pelosi

what is this, kindergarten?

[dkofos]

23. AYSTAFG

[bigtree]

24. back at cha

[truedelphi]

13. Quoting the OP Pelosi said the House would work closely with the administration to pass a bill this

Week

Which bill?? Is it in regards to FISA??

[bigtree]

15. we still don't know what the 'compromise' entails

but, we do know what Pelosi's priorities are for such a bill. She wants the warrants. Warrants which are approved by a judge.

[kenny blankenship]

8. Has Pelosi said she will support or work with Bush on undermining FISA?

Just asking for information, not challenging anyone.

[acmavm]

12. From an answer to my post...

<Snip>
Pelosi said the House would work closely with the administration to pass a bill this week, but that it was important to keep "check and balances" between branches of government.
<snip>

Just like the secret 'trade deal. Anyone remember that one? Got any details yet? No? Gee, I'm not surprised.

Just like not funding the war to force a pull out? Any progress on that one? Next month you say? Oh yeah, they gave bush** all the money he wanted last time, didnt' they? Makes me real confidant that Nancy & Co. will stand their ground this time around.

[dkofos]

14. Try this

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/01/washington/01nsa.html...

[Double T]

3. Looks like the Speaker has come to the crossroads of her career............

if she caves into bush again, she is finished.

[dkofos]

5. I'm sure she will take the politically correct path (in her mind) and give in to *ush.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Amen

Wake up and do the right thing, Nancy!!

[dbt]

7. K & R

Get on the stick or get the FUCK out the way, Ms Bitch.

:freak:

[The Stranger]

10. She has got to go.

What an utter disaster she has been.

[dkofos]

34. Some here would say she is doing a heck of a job!!

I'm not one of them.

[leftchick]

35. or

"whip me more mama, here is the spoon!" .... same thing.

:eyes:

[The Stranger]

36. I wish to whatever gods may be that she were doing a "heck of a job," believe me.

I really wanted so much for her considering all that she represents. But the nation is sliding into a very, very serious situation -- one that does not hinge upon questions of a political nature or decisions of policy, but of high crimes and misdemeanors at the highest reaches of the government. And the only way to cure the disease she has inexplicably taken away from us.

This is far worse than a poorly run political career or a policy blunder or failure. These are the keys to the Republic. How she can continue given the continuing slide and the continuing crimes being revealed, and the continuing refusal of the criminals to even comply with subpoenas -- there is simply no explanation.

[dkofos]

37. Had I known then what I know now about pelosi, I would not have been

so pleased to see her get the speakers position.

She turned out to be a true politician. I can't stand politicians!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

16. Recommended and waiting to see what the Nancy apologists are going to

come up with here.
:popcorn:

[bigtree]

18. she hasn't actually done anything yet

that shouldn't stop her bashers from unloading on her though.

Make it up.

[dkofos]

21. Not in the open anyway!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. ..........

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bush_pressing_Democrats_for_expanded_eavesdropping_0801.html
Snip.....
Democratic leaders emerged from a breakfast meeting at the White House Wednesday and appeared willing to pass a limited expansion of spying powers before Congress leaves for a month-long recess at the end of this week, Reuters reported.

"What we committed to was to work closely with the administration to come to agreement," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said.

Pelosi expected the House to pass legislation updating the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act this week, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was less optimistic his chamber would adopt legislation in the next few days.

[bigtree]

27. like I said

nothing has been decided yet.

Maybe later this afternoon, maybe later this week, maybe never. It's even likely that Bush won't come down from his imperious demands, rejects the Democratic proposals, and ends up scuttling all of this.

[dkofos]

28. You would think pelosi learned her lesson when it comes to negotiating

with terrorists.

[tom_paine]

22. " including legal immunity for telecommunications companies involved in the wiretapping program. "

That tells you ALL you need to know.

Our last few protections against tyrnny are swirling down the drain.

The Bushies are at a point where they can begin Nazi-style tactics IMMEDIATELY AND LEGALLY in response to their next false flag, which by the chatter appears to be a "nuclear 9/11" designed to let them and Israel nuke Iran (God Forbid this should happen but are the Royal Bushies that evil to MIHOP or LIHOP it...very possibly)

[bigtree]

25. Is that part of their compromise?

we know what Bush wants, but the Democrats aren't buying the entire package. It would be more credible if we were discussing something which has actually been agreed to.

[tom_paine]

38. I would imagine every is still up in the air, so the outcome is uncertain

We will have to wait for the bill to be presented. It's all speculation until then.

[bigtree]

29. this indicates that part isn't being considered by the Democrats

"The White House has told Democratic lawmakers that it will accept a narrow bill now but will come back later for broader changes, including legal immunity for telecommunications companies involved in the wiretapping program."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/01/washington/01nsa.html?_r=3&adxnnl=0&oref=slogin&ref=washington&adxnnlx=1185971637-vItGtV1UKZanyYUFRI6wgw&pagewanted=print

and,

"Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell, in a July 27 letter to congressional and committee leaders, submitted a plan that removed the liability protections from discussions of a short-term fix."

http://public.cq.com/docs/cqt/news110-000002562351.html

[dkofos]

30. She will roll over. Just like a puppy getting it's belly scratched.

[Mojorabbit]

32. I want AT&T

to be liable. I want to see them in court.

[Mojorabbit]

31. I just emailed her

here is the link.
http://speaker.house.gov/

[dkofos]

33. Are you actualy expecting a reply?? The only way you will get a reply

is to send money. And that will only be a thank you.