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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:12 PM
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Want to see what we face with HRC as a candidate?
http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=DiverseCity&msg=10200.77

I have had a long running conversation with this RW guy and went through the Clinton matter with him in the good old 90s
This is on Delphi and they make you log in as a guest to read it.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:17 PM
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1. Yeah, and the media and the Republicans will just leave all of the other candidates alone.
Right?
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:25 PM
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3. No they won't
But with Clinton they have a built in hatred caused by a decade of work that they only need to tweak.
The others are almost a blank slat compared to Clinton.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:24 PM
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2. They will Swiftboat ANY Democratic candidate. HRC's not my candidate,
but I'll give her this: she'll know how and be willing to fight back.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:27 PM
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4. and what else can they "surprise"
her with anymore?

I mean, what the heck is left? Is there anything they haven't lambasted her for, before?

She's weathered the swiftboating storms numerous times, I have no doubt she can do it again.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:39 PM
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8. You miss the point
It is not about her weathering the Storm that is not hard to do. But the objective is to make this a close election and lock in the solid south on the gop side.
It only has to be within a few points to make it possible to steal if they can't win outright.
Has not history taught us anything?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:06 PM
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10. YOU miss the point -
I think it's a tempest in a teapot.

I think we could run a stick and get them elected.

The GOP's got NOBODY that is even remotely electable at this point.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:11 PM
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12. Yeah, just like in 2004! WHen we ran John Kerry against the "Worst President Ever!". (NT)
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:16 PM
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14. I say they are sand bagging us
That is what I would do if I were them.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:30 PM
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18. so what "Wonder candidate"
are they going to pull out their @ss at the last minute to run, eh?

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:17 PM
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15. You need to go back to North Carolina for a few days if you
really believe that.

I think we've lost with Thompson's impending announcement, myself. I'm focusing on the House and Senate.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:31 PM
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19. who the HELL would vote for that hack?
Hell, he can't even ACT!

Nope. Don't think so.

and I KNOW "southernerss" won't vote for Guilani or for Romney.

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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:30 PM
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5. Any dem afraid of the rotting corpse of the gop should just roll over
and die.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:31 PM
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6. Amen to that.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:35 PM
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7. Hope you have a great holiday weekend sweety
:hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:17 PM
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16. Not afraid - just resigned.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:53 PM
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9. Freeptards like your friend should be a lot more worried
about how the nation is going to view the last 8 years of Bush administration incompetence, corruption, duplicity, law breaking, and just plain stupidity - along with the Republican party's enabling of those same things, than what people are going to think about HRC and the ginned up scandals of the 90's. Don't go on the defensive with these assholes - the Republican party is in a bad way and needs an anvil dropped on them every day!

and I'm not sure anybody thinks the surge is working like the moron you're talking to does, is worth talking to, period.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:11 PM
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11. You are right
The repugs have a lot of garbage hanging over there heads.
But if there is garbage in the streets and no one mentioned it does it exist?
Who in the media is going to speak of those things? KO, and a few others who will be marginalized by the overwhelming silence coming from the MSM.
And besides they will not have time to cover it with a new Clinton scandal every week.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:12 PM
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13. yes because things were such a breeze with john kerry who was in no way involved in cliintons blow
job
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:26 PM
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17. And that is why the swift boat was used
To which Kerry did not respond
Instead he kept trying to explain his remark about being against the war before he was for it...or was it the other way around...
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:32 PM
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20. and what "swiftboat" do you think is left to pull on HRC
eh?

I'm saying that's one less thing to really worry about with her as a candidate.

PLEASE NOTE: I'm especially 'for' any Democratic Candidate. I'm not "against" ANY Democratic candidate.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 01:33 PM
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21. me either. the only reason i need to defend hrc on this board more, is that the attacks against her
are ludicrious
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 02:59 PM
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22. ayuh.
I try to defend them all against all the attacks.

We eat our own sometimes. :sigh:

While I think it would be totally awesome to have someone besides "an old white guy" in the WH - I would never attack any of our candidates. I think they're all pretty great.

I also think now would be an optimal time to effect the change in this country that should have been made a LONG time ago, eh?

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