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Could someone get to the best points of past discussions and leave out the negative assaults for a moment. I am not seeing many solid reasons there except to vaunt some questionable things that other candidates are just as capable of doing. If this is only a woman versus man thing or some other big issue I would like to really see it.
As for Hillary fighting the MSM, politically she has been successful- in New York, against loons- by the passive competent approach. Real teflon in essence. That teflon will be stripped as easily as Kerry's medals to make her negatives(even among women) "surprisingly" worse. I have nothing against Hillary's successful strategies in the senate races. In effect, no one tried to take her out like they will in a presidential race. Thank Guiliani's untimely prostrate for that.
Argue for her policies that many in DU have a problem with. You can leave out the war vote and the weak defenses if you want. It is larger than that. Hillary CAN win. So could anyone were things not rigged. How can she win BIGGER than the others? I often think Obama's biggest handicap will be in taking on old Clinton advisers should he defeat her in the primaries. Thus went Kerry in part. She also has not fought the rigging like Edwards and Kucinich and Dean have more clearly stated. Not only does this affect her chances it speaks ominously as to what will actually happen if she is in office on certain radically needed reforms. If I wanted doubtful results I would rather have the honest confronting efforts of Kucinich than murk meeting fascism.
Let's get more positive about her future performance as campaigner and president. More than longing for economic good times like some lost Camelot? The image of our last real president a restoration? Tell me how HER policies and campaigning and job performance are and will be better than her rivals. I am seeing, besides the negatives no one needs repeated, only a very shallow floating above all situations type of entitlement coronation. Clintondom restored, centrism, up with women. Is this what today's situation really cries for and will reward- more than a fresh new approach that is part of the party's main strategy? Some of these same people tried to raise Bradley over Gore, but now are setting aside advantages for a politically costly restoration of the imperfect Clinton era and staff. They were wrong then and wrong now. It is the times.
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