Okay, Congress. The blood is now on YOUR hands.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

Ya can't say we haven't tried. Letters, emails, phone calls, office visits, public meetings, press releases, press conferences, referendums, protests, demonstrations, civil disobedience, talk shows, office takeovers, songs, poems, chants, bumper stickers, bridge signs, sky writing (okay, I haven't actually SEEN any sky writing yet, but ya gotta admit it's a GREAT idea!!!), and on and on and on and on and ON.

All saying the same thing, loud and clear: IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY.

I just have one simple question for all you Congresscritters- WHICH PART OF THIS DO YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND?

We The People do NOT want more war. We The People do NOT want more death. We The People do NOT want more rampant destruction. We The People do NOT want the government to pillage any more of our treasury. We The People do NOT want to attack Iran, even if Israel DOES think it's a bitchin' idea.

We The People are tired, and too many of our precious children have died already. We The People do NOT want to watch any more of our children die FOR NO REASON.

Give us peace, Pelosi. Give us peace, Reid. Conyers, Waxman, Kerry, Clinton- open your hearts and minds for a moment and understand what it is We The People want NEED you to do.

NOW.

The blood is now on YOUR hands, Congress. Every dead soldier has your names burned into their heart. Every innocent civilian brutally murdered by George Bush and Dick Cheney now has YOU to thank. Every mother, father, daughter, son, aunt, uncle, neice, nephew, and best friend now lying quiet and still in the ground have YOU to thank for their snug little coffin- that is to say, if there was enough of them left after having that bomb land on their head to actually bury...

We hired you to do a specific job. We gave you a mandate. It was clear and unequivocal. It was simple. You know what that job is- do I really have to say it yet again?

Okay, I will.

IMPEACH GEORGE W. BUSH AND DICK CHENEY.

NOW.

Vacation's over. Get back to work. You have a job to do.

[robinlynne]

1. How I wish they would hear you.

[bjobotts]

61. They hear you..they ignore you...they know better than those they represent.

[porphyrian]

2. Would you make sure they all get this? - n/t

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

3. Feel free to email a link to everyone on your list.

Yet another email they'll no doubt ignore, but we have to keep trying...

[liberaldemocrat7]

46. Prisoner, did you get my private message about cancer?

Look in your inbox.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

69. Thanks- I never got the notification.

I'll read the link and look at the concepts. However, at this point, I'm not "in" the loop- she has several sisters who will no doubt try their damnedest to take over. This is only the beginning.

[LittleClarkie]

4. Nope

Still on the hands of Bush and Cheney.

And you speak for you, not "we". Not every "we" agrees with you. I was just speaking to a Progressive/Socialist just this weekend who thinks it's far too late for such an action. By the time we'd finish with proceedings, it will be time for the next election. He's just looking forward to the next administration, hoping it will be Dem.

Argumentum ad populum.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

6. Yes, that's the message they want you to keep repeating.

I don't give a damn if they have to do it on the last day they're in office. I WANT THEM IMPEACHED.

It's not merely the action- it's the entire principle of it. THEY ARE WAR CRIMINALS. EVERY MOMENT THEY ARE IN OFFICE IS ANOTHER MOMENT THEY CAN USE TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

In case you haven't noticed, they're trying extremely hard to start WWIII right now.

Define "too late" for me in THAT context, if you can.

[bjobotts]

65. Get Reid to stop playing victim. We can't get enough votes...waah

Can't get enough votes in the senate to withdraw the troops..when it should be seen that Republicans in the senate can't get enough votes to continue funding the occupation. Reid has what Bush wants...Not the other way around. You don't need 60 votes to withdraw the troops ...they need 100 votes to get the funding to continue the occupation. Stop playing the victim here.

Next...please someone teach Pelosi how to walk and chew gum at the same time. There's no downside to impeachment and she is not too busy. She won't discuss or debate the issue because she would lose. She has her fingers in her ears and is running in the opposite direction.

She claims stopping the "war" in Iraq is the most important issue and the only 2 ways to do that is to impeach or to withhold the funding. She claims she will do whatever she can to stop it yet she is not doing it and needs to be told this is how you can stop it. Don't think of it in terms of Impeaching Cheney and Bush...think of it in terms of preventing an attack on Iran and withdrawing the troops from Iraq. Call it that instead of impeachment because that is how you get your so called "most important desired goal of ending the Iraq occupation" accomplished. See the two as having the same end result.
So go on and make the announcement..."ending the occupation of Iraq is now back on the table". "Withdrawing the troops from Iraq is now back on the table". That is after all what you said was most important to you Pelosi.


Pelosi has chosen waiting for Bush to see the light or for Dems to win the next Presidential election. She won't listen, discuss, debate, or do anything but bitch. Someone needs to throw a bucket of blood on her because she has closed her eyes and ears to the soldiers plight, refusing to do what is necessary to protect them. She has done the same with the constitution...refused to protect it.
We are talking to the air or to ourselves because these "Democrats" have refused to hear. All we can do is keep trying and pray they will open their ears. But who ever pays attention to anything I have to say, except maybe you at DU.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. He swallowed the talking points

and I guess it is too late for the US Constitution and a country once called the United States

[backscatter712]

28. Look how fast Craig got thrown under the bus.

If Congress chose to do it, they could send Bush and Cheney packing in just a couple weeks. Certainly, what Bush and Cheney did is far worse than Craig's disorderly conduct conviction. Yet Craig resigned, and even though he's changing his mind, he's unlikely to be able to resurrect his career.

It's clear that Congress, Democrats included, chooses not to throw Bush and Cheney under the bus.

[StarryNite]

29. bush and cheney

might be the ones who are robbing the bank and shooting innocent people but Congress is waiting for them outside in the getaway car.

[KharmaTrain]

42. Let 'Em Rant

Life is far simpler when all the answers are in some mystical impeachment that will turn back the clock and make everything all sweetness and light. Give no thought to timing or how many criminals you let slip under the impeachment wire...all that matters is a political show trial that won't succede as long as 17 Repugnicans lack spine and principals to convict...but it sure would make people here feel good. Kinda easy to sit behind a keyboard and let loose...reality never seems to come near.

[ClintonTyree]

44. Uh oh.....

:hide: You're in deep doo-doo now. Stop making sense, will you? ;)

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

68. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Of COURSE it's not gonna be a cosmic reset. Of COURSE it's not gonna be easy. Of COURSE there's going to be a lot of pain and suffering by a hell of a lot of people- in THIS country and in others.

Of COURSE we all know this.

So we try, and perhaps we fail. BUT AT LEAST WE WILL HAVE TRIED.

Then again, perhaps we'll SUCCEED.

[FiveGoodMen]

48. By the time the next election should occur Congress will have passed a bill effectively canceling it

[aggiesal]

56. It took only 3 months to impeach ...

Clinton, and have the senate hear the trial.
At which point they did not convict.
Only 3 months from Articles of Impeachment in the House,
to Not-Guilty in the Senate.

So I disagree. There is still plenty of time left to impeach
President Cheney and his talking dummy.

[PDJane]

5. Unfortunately,

What we the people want isn't something that matters all that much in the land of the free.

[orleans]

7. yeah. hey congress, don't you all feel like a bunch of fucking suckers

now that this new bush book has hit the media and fuckhead says he's "playing" this till october or november so he can get some repuke to back his dirty ugly war and perpetuate it.

SUCKERS! gonna let george make a fool of you again? gonna give him another $50 billion? SUCKERS!

[razors edge]

8. It has always been

on their hands, claiming to have been fooled by a known liar is no absolution of the responsibilities that come with exercising the ultimate power of the State.

[Raster]

17. BRAVO!!! "...claiming to have been fooled by a known liar is no absolution..."

Wake up America!:kick:

[creeksneakers2]

50. Its not on their hands

The absurd concept that the party that doesn't stop a crime is as guilty or even more guilty than the criminal who commits a crime
has no support in law or common sense. We could all find crimes to stop. Do we all spend all our time fighting crime? Who here believes they should be punished for not stopping somebody else's crime?

Democrats are responsible for the choices they make for the future of America. They are not responsible for the situation we are in. Bush is. Democrats would have never gone to Iraq or committed any crimes at all if it weren't for Bush.

[aggiesal]

58. Not true. If you know a crime is about to be committed, ...

and you allow it to happen, then you are just as criminally liable
as the person committing the crime. It's called (I think) accessory after the fact.

Congress knew they were being lied to, and they allowed everything to happen.
They are still allowing it to happen. They are just as guilty as the administration.

[creeksneakers2]

66. No, that isn't the case

You have no legal duty to stop crimes, except in circumstances where you are responsible, such an adult who allows teenagers to hold a keg party in his house.

An "accessory" is someone who aides in the crime being committed.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

70. No, just a moral duty.

Not binding in court, perhaps, but in the eyes of a tired nation-- hell, yes.

[aggiesal]

72. I don't believe that is the case, ...

If you know that a crime is going to be committed,
and you do nothing to stop the crime, and the crime is
actually committed, you will be charged with something.

I'm no legal expert so I don't know what you'll be charged
with, but I'm sure a legal expert on this board, could sure
clarify this situation.

[Truth2Tell]

59. How about the party that finances the crime?

That has support in both law and common sense.

[creeksneakers2]

67. That's makes more sense

than to say somebody is guilty for just not stopping a crime.

I don't agree that a sudden cut off of funding is an attractive alternative, but choosing not to suddenly cut off funding is a decision Democrats are responsible for.

[ClayZ]

9. K and R

[delirious]

10. Average Americans are more courageous than their representatives

When 3/4 of us see through the lies and fear-mongering of this administration, why can't Congress find the guts to stand with us?

[Stinky The Clown]

11. I understand your sentiment but disagree with your argument

Like you, I'm an impeachment hawk. **I** want them impeached last year.

But wanting it and having it are two VERY different things. America isn't with us yet. A majority (slim, but still a majority) oppose impeachment.

I wanted hearings.

I wanted investigations.

I wanted subpoenas.

I wanted contempt of Congress charges.

I wanted bad news every day.

I wanted the now gone underlings to have been impeached or criminally charged.

I bet you want a lot of that too.

But you and me do not make a capital "WE". Impeachment proponents are, sadly, still the minority. Your effort needs to be directed to your fellow citizens, not the Congress.

I'm on your side. I really am. But right now, it just ain't gunna happen.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

14. The fellow citizens are already there talking about it.

I'm in Dallas Texas, and the word "impeach" is heard by me on a daily basis. IN TEXAS.

If those in the redneck capital of the nation discusses it on the street and in the stores, I'd say the word is out.

Disbelief is a very strong motivation to sit there and do nothing. Personally, I'd rather have a bit of faith that there are still a few intelligent forward-thinkers out here in the world. And I'll put my money on them every time.

It CAN happen.

It MUST.

[puebloknot]

31. When the Kennedy brothers undertook to stop lynchings in the South...

..."The People" weren't with them. They didn't want outsiders coming down there and changing their ways.

Since when does the Congress sit back and wait until The People pound down their door before they do their Constitutional duty? They are elected to *lead*, not sit with a finger in the wind all the day long!

[aggiesal]

63. I believe that once impeachment proceedings start ...

all the evidence presented will no doubt wake up the people
of this country to the crimes this administration has perpetrated.

They can't hide behind executive privilege in a criminal case, so
all that evidence would come to light, and the opposition would no
longer be the slim majority that you currently claim they have.

[sendero]

12. Impeachment..

... would be fine, but what I REALLY want is for this war to end. The Democrats in congress absolutely have the power to end this war and I expect them to do it.

[Olney Blue]

13. EXACTLY how I feel. I keep protesting, but nothing happens

Any DEM not supporting the end of the WAR ASAP is NOT going to get my vote.

[superkia]

15. When the primaries roll around will you support war then or change?

I always see everyone up in arms over the war which they should be. What we need to do is vote for a candidate that will end it, not one that will most likely keep the political machine rolling. Before you make that primary vote, remember the lives that we are losing everyday, including the Iraqi's and then we will see what direction America wants to go. Do we talk a good game about caring or do we REALLY want change in Washington? We will see soon enough!

[Subdivisions]

16. I'll help you send this to every fucking member of Congress. Just

say the word and split the list. Email, go to their page and use the contact form or call on the fucking telephone tomorrow. I don't give a fuck how long it takes what we have to do to get this message to every member as soon as possible.

[lonestarnot]

18. Yes it is!

[Perseid]

19. great post PN6!

Saying what most of us feel very clearly. Thanks

[OneBlueSky]

21. with all that is known about BushCo and how they operate, NOT impeaching is a crime . . .

against the Constitution and a slap in the face to every American citizen . . . by not impeaching, Congress becomes enablers -- if they're not part of the solution, they're part of the problem . . .

no more excuses . . . doesn't matter whether we "have the votes" . . . the man is a liar, a thief, a war criminal who has committed crimes against humanity and war crimes that dwarf the misdeeds of the worst of our past presidents . . . if they can't see that -- and ACT on it -- they don't belong in office . . . because they don't represent you, or me, or anyone but themselves . . .

[Senator]

22. K&R

[pingzing58]

23. History needs to know how we stand on this admin. Impeachment is necessary.

[B Calm]

24. and to think that the republicans impeached President Clinton for

getting a damn blow job from a fat chick. We have to keep the pressure on these Blue Dogs to do their damn job and save our country before it's too late!

[cali]

25. Offensive letter

Yeah, I'd like 'em to impeach, but when I voted for Peter Welch last year, I knew he wasn't pro-impeachment. So I can't pretend he promised something he didn't deliver. Nor or his hands bloody. Same goes for Leahy and Sanders- and none of the three will vote for the 50 billion. Leahy, in fact, has come out for defunding the war.

Rhetoric like this never accomplished shit.

Try living in a less bushlike black/white world.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

26. What's offensive about telling an employee to do their job???

What's wrong about telling a child to pick up their toys? What's so horrible about telling a teenager to do their homework? What's the problem with telling someone to flush after they take a piss?

What's offensive about telling Congress you're vastly disappointed in their complete lack of balls, and that it's time they reached down, did a gut check, and remembered why they're there in the first place?

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

I'll continue the rhetoric. You go back to bed and put the covers over your head.

[cali]

30. Cliche ridden rhetoric

is ineffective rhetoric. A bunch of amens from the choir may be personally validating, but it's hardly an affirmation of persuasive speech. Nobody listens to broad and screechy denunciations.

[acmavm]

41. Then how about this. They are war criminals. They subjected people to

torture. The spy on us. ON US! They've lied about every damn thing that has happened from 911 to Attorneygate. They have bankrupted the Treasury. They are responsible for 9 BILLION DOLLARS of our money being missing. AND THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO START ANOTHER UNWINNABLE WAR BASED ON THE SAME SET OF LIES THEY USED BEFORE.

Will that work?

[Sapphire Blue]

27. K&R (I'd recommend this 100 times if I could!)

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[Totally Committed]

34. Ditto for me!

Awesome OP!

:applause: x 100!


TC

[Freddie Stubbs]

32. They understand. They just don't agree with you

They apperently know that math a little bit better than you, that even if the House were to impeach there aren't enough votes in the Senate.

[AverageJoe]

54. So, a sure conviction is the only reason to indict someone for a criminal act?

I don't think so.

Impeachment, even without conviction, sends the message that the United States House of Representatives does not condone a criminal administration engaged in shredding the Constitution.

This is a necessary act, even if the republicans are able to block a conviction in the Senate and removal from office.

[Freddie Stubbs]

57. And you actually think there are enough votes in the House?

You did see the result of the FISA vote a few weeks ago, didn't you? And the vote to cut off funding for the war a few months ago?

[puebloknot]

33. K&R The Dems are doing what Bush is doing..."Playing the war"...

...for the benefit of the presidential candidates. They still think it's Bush's war entire! Problem is, they bought it as soon as they continued funding it, circa January 2007.

Actually holding public impeachment hearings might reveal the dirt on not just Bushco, but Dems, as well. Oh, where, oh, where has my country gone?

[youngharry]

35. Blood on Democrat Congressional Hands

Pelosi is the bottle neck by criminally ignoring her oath of office and overriding the Constitution by herself.
She ignores reason and and every other attempt to wake her up to her duties to this country. I can think of no better way to do that than by telling her that all the young children whose fathers and mothers that have been killed or injured in Iraq since she became Speaker will tell her grandchildren in the future--- over and over again--- that their fathers and mothers have been killed or injured because their grandmother didn't do her job.

Maybe that will wake her up to the reality and gravity of our soldiers that continue to be killed and injured because this Congress hasn't done the job they were elected to do.

[bigtree]

36. ever consider the possibility that the White House would escalate their militarism

during an impeachment to distract from the proceeding?

I think the prospect of Bush expanding his militarism into Iran, for example, is just as valid a possibility as assuming that any old impeachment (especially one with charges generated in-house by our own party without the benefit of some outside investigation/prosecution) would restrain Bush and Cheney from ANYTHING.

[ComerPerro]

38. of course they didn't consider that. Just like the whole "cut funding now" crowd

they apparently think that Bush will suddenly end the war because the soldiers are no longer funded. Lord knows Bush wouldn't put people in harm's way and let soliders die just to prove a political point...

[ComerPerro]

37. lets impeach and convict so they can be replaced by another Bushbot stooge and be pardoned! yeah!

[bjobotts]

60. Defeatist goober. Replace etc. isn't the issue. It stops the occupation

It defends the constitution, it saves what is left of our treasury, it stops the Iran attack. With your defeatist attitude why bother to do anything, it just get replaced with more shit

[stimbox]

39. Excellent post!

I see all of the usual impeach-o-phobe jellyfish (D) enablers are here decrying it.

[creeksneakers2]

52. Enabler

Is a word junkies use for an excuse. Its a word for blaming everybody but the wrongdoer. A women with three kids who doesn't call the police on her alcoholic husband because she can't get by without her alcoholic husband's income is a victim, not an "enabler." "Enabler" is not a characterization of what the Democrats are doing.

If the Democrats pulled all our troops out of Iraq tomorrow nobody knows what will happen for sure. It could lead to peace and harmony, it could lead to genocide. Its not such an easy choice for Democrats to make. Those who throw around words like "guilty" and "enabler" seldom if ever mention the possible consequences they would unleash on Iraq.

[stimbox]

71. Complicity?

Apologists?

Accomplices?

All of the above.

You're right we don't know what will happen when we eventually end the occupation, if we ever do.

But we do know now that it is a meat grinder and a quagmire and we should get the fuck out of there and let the Iraqis settle it themselves.

[coco77]

40. YES!

IMPEACH!IMPEAIMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!CH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IIMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!MPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!
IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!

[truedelphi]

43. Ya wanna have everyone in the whole country supporting Impeachment THEN

Let's have an amendment to the Constitution that states that any time a war is raged - those who want the war MUST pay 1000 per cent of whatever amount they are currently paying to the Federal Governemnt

The way it is now, the people who still want the war are gaining TAX CUTS while the middel class is paying Halliburton Blackwater etc for this debacle.

[VenusRising]

45. K & R

:applause::yourock:

[Karenina]

47. Who will make it 50 recs?

[snappyturtle]

49. K&R If we don't impeach for our own sakes we ought to think

about impeaching for the sake of the other occupants of the planet who can do nothing to get rid of the evil. I read one reply implying that * could escalate the war if we impeach! Pull your tail out from between your legs and get some guts.

Your letter is as good a tact as any, maybe better....I promise that tomorrow I will start my little campaign to impeach.....again. I'll tell 'em the blood is on their hands!

[emald]

51. yes

damn straight, IMPEACH NOW

[Plucketeer]

53. Impeach them both!

We sure ta hell don't want one pardoning the other!

[Megahurtz]

55. Here Here!

:bounce:

And HEAR US, Congress!!!

[MasonJar]

62. I do not want the dems to lose a single race in '08, and yet they hurt

that chance by not upholding their Constitutional duty to charge Bush and Cheney with crimes against humanity. Those two should be in the Hague; they would get a fairer trial there than they gave Sadaam.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

64. Why, What A Great Idea! Now Would You Mind Humoring Me With Your Grand Plan On Just How The Dems

could possibly convince, oh, let's say 16 republican senators or so, to side with them on this task?

I mean, you make it sound oh so easy and stuff, so I could only imagine you must have a sound plan in order to accomplish this seemingly impossible task, lest you just be shouting out feel good catch phrases with no basis in reality.

[LSK]

73. how would a year long Impeachment process stop an attack on Iran?

:shrug: