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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:10 PM
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Southwest Fashion Police Set No-Fly Zone
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/braun/20070905-9999-1m5braun.html

As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:14 PM
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1. What surprised me more than anything was that it was Southwest
Usually a really laid back crew trying hard to hang on to the old PSA days.

I'll have to remember this the next time some beer gut hangs in my face while its owner stuffs the overhead bin.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:16 PM
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2. She'd be a welcome sight on most of the SWA flights I've taken...
Flying SWA is like eating at The Country Buffet.

I smell a little envy at work here.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:18 PM
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3. Adults with "heightened sensibilities," huh.
she's clean, she's dressed, she's wearing a bra......and nothing is showing that shouldn't be, so what's the problem?

Folks are getting way too authoritarian for me to handle.........
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:22 PM
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5. SEE THE DEAN STUDY ON AUTHORITARIANISM
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:23 PM
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8. That phrase caught me too...
My response to “adults with heightened sensitivities.”? "Fuck you!"

and if they happened to be seated next to me, "you don't mind if I sit here and watch porn on my laptop do you?"

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:22 PM
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4. The Taliban is with us.
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:22 PM
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6. If the Pukes and the Fundies have their way, we will all have to wear veils when we leave the house
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:23 PM
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7. The title's deceptive
The article clearly states that Ms. Ebbert rejoined the flight and obviously flew back to wherever she was flying out of in the first place.

Secondly, I can hardly wait to read more fat-bashing. I just can't get enough! :sarcasm: Somehow, I'm sure I'll be treated to a lot of it in 3, 2, 1...

Julie
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:27 PM
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9. It was probably some fat woman that was jealous of that awesome little hotties' cute bod....
Edited on Wed Sep-05-07 03:28 PM by truebrit71
....how's that??....:evilgrin:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:45 PM
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15. Why are people taking her word that that was the outfit she had on?
She sure looks prim. proper and posed in that photo! :0
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:00 PM
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18. She flew with no luggage, and sent a cell-phone pic of herself right after she got there.
Sounds to me like she's established it -is- the outfit in question.

What a bizarre story.
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:36 PM
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10. Its public transportation, not a dune buggy. IMHO, travellers sharing close quarters
with strangers should use some discretion. I say this having once sat on a bus behind a large hairy-backed man wearing a muscle tank (showing no muscle, but lots of fur...not a pretty sight).
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:36 PM
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11. I wish they'd enforce their "two seat" policy
for overweight people instead of harassing women for being attractive. Every time I see someone having to walk sideways down the aisle, I know for certain he'll be next to me. It never fails. OK so call me insensitive but the average coach seat dimension is 18" with a 2" armrest and if you're wider than 18" you need to buy an extra seat. I shouldn't have to lean out into the aisle (those carts HURT) to keep from touching you.

Sorry for the rant. Back to the poor pretty white girl.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:39 PM
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12. I'd rather sit next to an overweight person than an asshole.
nt
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:43 PM
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14. Southwest Airlines does not use beverage carts.
"harassing women for being attractive" :eyes:
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 06:40 PM
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16. I'm overweight..........
and have a cane.

If I can't get the bulkhead seat, I try not to go. I can't sit crumpled up for long......
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:13 PM
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22. I wish they'd use proper seats.
They cram people in so tight even people barely overweight need two seats.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:42 PM
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13. So her mom says: "she dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can."
She must be so proud :)
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 06:52 PM
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17. Showing an ankle
Used to be "provocative".

Perhaps we should return to those days, eh?

And in fact, on an attractive woman, most men find jeans and a tee shirt to be quite provocative.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:02 PM
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19. Those cross-dressers! Some men find them attractive.
(wondering to myself in my little head, why can women cross dress but men are looked down upon for doing so by the general USA society?)
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:15 PM
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23. This is a nation..
Of manly men doing manly things..

Like drinking beer..

Why can't they make realistic beer commercials?

It's four am, you've just pissed on a dumpster.. It's Miller time..

h/t Robin Willams..
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:32 PM
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24. Unlike what's going on here right now, drinking beer, making zuchinni pickles.
womanly women drink beer. and make pickles.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:07 PM
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20. "The children"
"Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger 'whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive' to ensure the comfort of children and 'adults with heightened sensitivities.'"

Children don't give a damn about stuff like that---unless they meant teenage boys.

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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:11 PM
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21. Southwest needs to look back at their own history
Edited on Wed Sep-05-07 07:14 PM by RamboLiberal


And I remember this from the early 70's - National Airlines.

Not long ago National Airlines began a $9.5 million advertising campaign aimed at personalizing its service. Ads picturing a lovely smiling stewardess proclaimed: "I'm Margie . Fly Me." National painted the girls' names on the noses of some of its planes—like World War II bombers—and passed out "Fly Me" buttons for the girls to wear on their uniforms.

Some National stewardesses decided that the idea amounted to a personal rather than a commercial proposition, and was a blatant sexist pitch. Three of them on a Halloween flight from New York to Miami displayed a cardboard cutout of a wrinkled witch in boots and military-type jacket with a Fly Me button. "If the ads would just say, 'Fly with me,' " complained Stewardess Ilene Held, "we'd be asking people to fly as part of our airline. It's the live stuff that gets to men, that makes them think 'let's fly with National and see what they have.' " Some stewardesses have refused to wear the buttons; Florida's Dade County Circuit Court has turned down a national women's organization request for a restraining order to ground the campaign. National pleads innocence. Says Public Relations Director Robert Mattel: "The stewardesses become an extension of the airline. We had no preconceived idea of injecting a suggestive leer into the campaign."'


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,903213,00.html

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