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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:26 AM
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So much for the pig farm! Need for folksy pretense past, Dallas abuzz where Bush will build
He's "just like us"! you could "have a beer with 'W'"! Saps.


Also drawing a lot of speculation is an oversized vacant lot located a couple blocks from the Dallas Country Club and within spitting distance of Turtle Creek. A neighbor confirmed that she had heard the rumor that the Bushes would build a house there, and she even contacted the town hall, hoping to learn the truth. "The town manager is denying it," she said, speaking through an intercom system to a reporter standing at the front door. "But don't quote me by name. I don't want to be responsible for spreading anything erroneous." However, the owner of that suspicious one-acre lot, valued at $5.2 million for tax purposes, did not respond to an interview request, leaving the lot high on the rumor list.
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Even the dog walkers in Highland Park seem to know where George and Laura Bush will be moving when they leave the White House in early 2009. "They're building a house on a piece of property around the corner," said a young woman, pointing south of Beverly Drive as she struggled to control two oversized golden retrievers.

"It's going to be a big pain in the neck with the Secret Service there all the time," she predicted of the president's future abode. "When Dick Cheney visited a home in the neighborhood last spring, even the owners couldn't get to their houses."

But the chatty dog walker declined to reveal the source of her real-estate tip other than to admit she "heard it from the neighbors." Likewise, she declined to reveal her full name. And she asked that the dogs, which she had readily identified to a reporter, remain anonymous as well.

Identified or not, lots of people profess to know the location of President Bush's future home in the Dallas area. They point – with assurance – toward expensive vacant lots and palatial homes under construction in the priciest neighborhoods in the Park Cities.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/090907dnmetbushhome.2b7f51f.html
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:29 AM
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1. The court house.....look up who purchased the deed.
That's how you find the owner of a property. If they deny you access file a FOIA .
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divineorder Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:31 PM
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26. Not necessarily informative.
He could have a straw buyer buy the property and then sell it to him when his term is over. Indeed, that's what they probably would do. The uncertainty would forestall any protests or more likely, a rush to sell by neighbors afraid of the fallout.

What would that fallout be? Security concerns-protestors, revenge terrorist attacks, gawkers. All of them camped out on nearby lawns or in the street. Higher real estate values as perhaps some of Bush's cronies may settle near him, bidding for available houses and pricing current owners out of their real estate with higher taxes. More commerce nearby to serve all of these new people.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:30 AM
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2. The big news here is that the Bushes actually seem to be making plans
for leaving the White House.

Unless it's all a big cover for their intention to suspend the elections & all that, of course.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:34 AM
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3. Big news and good news. No more brush trimming photo ops!

I'll drink to that this evening!

:toast:
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:34 AM
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4. perhaps they wouldn't want to stay in washington
just in case... the possibly missing nuke...err ... showed up in washington...(conveniently then when many protesters are in town, and cheney say.. in tampa?)
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:38 AM
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7. I'm more inclined to believe the latter
hey I own lots and lots of foil ;-)
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:28 AM
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15. anyone who honestly believes that they will try to suspend elections is a moran...
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 11:28 AM by QuestionAll
a TOTAL moran.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 12:16 PM
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20. They Prefer Stealing Elections to Cancelling Them
…but the recent flurry of executive orders is most disquieting.

I wish people who say they are NOT fixing to impose martial law had better arguments than this:

anyone who honestly believes that they will try to suspend elections is a moran...

a TOTAL moran.


Do I think they WILL suspend elections? I don't know. They'd rather steal them again.
If they don't think the outcome can be adjusted to their liking, all bets are off.

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 06:50 PM
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33. NOBODY would go along with that kind of a power grab-
not even the 29%ers, and DEFINITELY not the military officers and grunts that would be needed to pull something like that off- they can't even successfully occupy iraq- how in the hell could they expect to occupy the united states?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 02:36 AM
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35. Of Course They'd Go Along, If It Coincided With Another Reichstag Fire
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:55 AM
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18. Not Necessarily
If Bush** cancels elections and declares himself Resident-for-Life, he won't need the pig farm anymore either.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:39 PM
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22. The big news, to me, is that Laura isn't looking for a bachelorette pad! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:35 AM
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5. only an acre? not much
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:37 AM
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6. No, but it's a pretty big sky.
I bet they build up.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:38 AM
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8. At $5 mill per, you don't need a lot of land. Surely his brush clearing days will be over.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:42 AM
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9. aw,hell.I was hoping it would be Maine
Turle Creek is near my favorite part of Dallas,Oak Lawn,where a lot of cool restaurants,shops and clubs are
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Lawn,_Dallas,_Texas
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:21 AM
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14. W doesn't like Maine.
Bastards arrested him for drunk driving there.}(

Seriously, he has no emotional connection with the state the way his father does. It would be illogical for him to retire there.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:05 PM
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29. The only thing any Bush has an emotional connection to
is money.

I don't even think they're emotionally connected to each other.
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 03:19 AM
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36. Reason Poppy's in Texas instead of Maine. Clinton won it in 1992.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:43 AM
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16. I grew up on Oak Lawn. It was nice. I could walk to the Esquire Theater
on Saturday mornings to see the kiddy shows (before TV). When my parents moved to Farmers Branch, I had been living in the Northeast for years. So I've never made it back to that part of Dallas.

Is the Melrose Hotel still enjoying its "revival" of a few years ago?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:16 PM
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24. Let's hope for Park Cities
I love Oak Lawn too. I lived there for a few years. I still miss it.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:48 AM
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10. poppy has places in Connecticutt and S. America
I heard a terrible rumor that Bush has a time share with Micheal Bin Laden in an undisclosed area with a name something like Tora Tora that even has television production facilities.

And I've also heard that the International Court is considering a nice place with a scenic view on an isolated island in the middle of the South Atlantic, some say formerly occupied by a previous Emperor of the World.

Pickles may need a place for her and Barney, but Georgie has all kinds of options without dumping that kind of money into the real estate bubble in Dallas.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:48 AM
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11. sorry double clicked...
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 10:49 AM by HereSince1628
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:51 AM
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12. There goes the fucking neighborhood.
Why doesen't someone just put a double-wide on it, the effect on property values should be about the same.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:18 PM
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31. My thought was, "Well, there goes the neighborhood" as well.
Double-wide? no. Some tacky mcmansion, I bet.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 10:59 AM
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13. From the article - "the little house they grew up in" - 3400 sq ft!
They would seem to prefer a more modest and comfortable home," said Richard Smith, who lives in the Bushes' former Dallas home with his wife, Sandra. The 68-year-old, one-story house has about 3,400 square feet, a swimming pool and small guesthouse.

"George and Barbara Bush stayed in the guesthouse when their son lived here," said Mr. Smith, who has owned the house since 1996. "We never met George or Laura Bush, but when the twins were in college, they brought their friends by to see the little house they grew up in."

The Bushes' former home still has a sophisticated security system, with 60 monitored zones that can be triggered by an intruder, Mr. Smith said. "They installed it because he was the president's son when he lived here. I would imagine that security will be an overriding concern at his next home, too."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:54 PM
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27. How folksy! How average!
:eyes:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:45 AM
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17. Just follow the smell. nt
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divineorder Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 12:04 PM
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19. Sounds like it might just be
Is there another lot nearby where they can expand? If so, I think that's about right. Shrub will need heavy security after he leaves, and the pig farm probably doesn't quite have enough amenities for a staff to live nearby permanently as they would have to in retirement. Right now the pig farm is occupied only now and then, which means they can rotate staff in and out as needed. Also, I doubt that Laura really wants to live in such an isolated place when she no longer has the outlet of going places as First Lady.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 02:37 PM
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21. Why does everyone act as if it's either/or? He'll keep the ranch AND get a house in Dallas.
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divineorder Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:20 PM
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25. He could do better and knows it.
Edited on Thu Sep-13-07 03:26 PM by divineorder
Clearing brush is one thing when you can get attention for it, and when you can do a little Presidenting on the side. But in retirement fulltime, when he's already said he wants to build a think tank and give speeches? It's also not as if Crawford has a lot of amenities or sentimental value to keep him there either.

He could get donors to build him a fortress in the best part of Dallas whre he could get to the airport quickly. Where Pickles could go to the Country Club and do a little shopping. Also, his parents are quite up there in years. I don't know if he'll inherit the Connecticut estate or not, but he certainly won't need an estate in Crawford to live a country life. If he's in line for it, the place is already pretty secure and has large acreage.

Where would the pig farm fit in these plans? The kids don't want it, it means nothing to them. Nobody else in the family would be interested in living in Crawford. It's too far away to be much good as a Presidential Library location-he's already looking at land elsewhere where there's parking and space to build.

He could easily donate it to the Park System as a museum and take the tax benefits instead if he feels he can't get a good price for the property.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:00 PM
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23. Wrecking the country has been very profitable for george
but I don't know which scam he made his money in.
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 03:56 PM
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28. I gotta get outta here
We live in Irving, but do have occasion to venture into the Park Cities should the need arise. I don't want that horse's ass (with apologies to those beautiful creatures) anywhere near me. California, here I come!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:21 PM
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32. I used to live in Dallas. Park Cities can have him. Lovely place,
and I liked the Turtle Creek Park, but the people in PC didn't impress me. Way too materialistic.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 04:11 PM
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30. "an oversized vacant lot": well, doesn't that just fit * to a T!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 11:19 PM
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34. There is actually another George W. Bush that lived in the Houston area.
I wonder if he's still there?
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