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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:37 PM Original message |
New Deep-Pocketed Conservative Group Has Sights Set On Iran |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ari Fliesher is one of them |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Sourcewatch on the other guy, Bradley Blakeman: |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
71. Alfonse D'Amato? How about that? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Bookmarking for the next time the AP OR the NYTs |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. This to me seems like such an evil agenda. MoveOn can't compare, but |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. The overt comparison I read was an AP story. I didn't bookmark it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Here's the story where they go after the Betray Us ad. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Here's one where the funding of the 2 groups are compared: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Aha! Here's that AP article: Outsiders Aim to Frame the Political Debate |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Thanks for both of the links!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. The AP is calling them outsiders. We have to get someone |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yep..and those "outsiders" are pretending they are "filling a void" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Email to the AP: |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Excellent!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. the addy is info @ ap.org. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. "a private forum of 20 experts on radical Islam " |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. see what happens when they aren't held accountable? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. These people haven't left the White House. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. True...Ari didn't really leave |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. Looks like a rebirth of the Project For a New American Century |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. And to back up a little more, PNAC is just IranContra |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. Ah, thanks for the heads up. I wondered if that might be their next step |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'll make a bet Ledeen will be part of this "20 experts" group. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. This thread could use more recommends |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Go see #21 for the other Bush shill on board at Freedom's Rolex. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Good stuff!! Remember how Shrub pretended he was an outsider too? |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. This is a tax deduction scam to pay the media off. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. That's right. Exactly But also |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. More like paying the media to play their tune, and getting a tax deduction in the process. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. And the AP and the NYTs are right on board. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. digby: The Outsiders |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Ha! Awesome! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. Can we put this on the front page? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
70. How does one do that? |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. Freedom Watch is another name for NEO-CON |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Exactly. And their families will pay for it while they go without. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
34. Kick. Swiftboaters on steroids. n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. 'Swiftboaters on steroids" - boy, ain't that the truth! nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. These people are behind the NYTs "apology" for the MoveOn ad. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Judging from the characters involved, they are dangerous, no doubt. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. They've effectively manipulated the two more respected media outlets |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. William Randolf Hearst bought his war this way! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. And, for the record, this is not a new group. It's the old group |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
42. Deleted sub-thread |
Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. As long as others go over and shed their |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
44. So, Neocon groups can push for war, but it is forbidden to discuss their primary loyalities? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. No, that is not anti-Semitic. But when you characterize |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. So does his new post past the smell test, then? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I know. But some things are important. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. So, what exactly are primarly Jewish organizations that are also Neocon? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. All I'm trying to say is this: these organizations use the Jewish faith |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. Likudniks? |
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pretty_lies (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Blatant DU Double Standard |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. So, let's talk about this as adults. |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. It is important to recognize 'the Jews' ... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
45. there are no laws to contain these criminals |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
49. What do they have to gain? |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The answer is contained in which country would gain the most from diminished Persian power. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. No. It's not about nation states but about corporate interests. n/t |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. Saudi Arabia? |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
56. One thing you will never hear a progressive organization say- |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. They promote Freedom's Watch as a counterpoint to Move On ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Yes! See #14 for tha AP's first buy in. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Check out #18 for a recent ad they put in NYT |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. That's what they do. |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
62. kick n/t |
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Douglas Carpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
63. RECOMMENDED!!! |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
64. kick n/t |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. This thread needs to be seen again. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
67. And today, AOL has a poll up comparing the two groups. |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
68. More info on Freedom's Watch |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
72. Our research up at OpEdNews: |
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