Post California Fire Disaster Info in this thread, please!

[Ian David]

Even if you've posted it elsewhere, please cross-post it here.

Thanks!

[Ian David]

1. If you think we should have a Katrina-style California Emergency Forum, vote here...

If you think we should have a Katrina-style California Emergency Forum, vote here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2110229&mesg_id=2110229

[NMDemDist2]

2. 50 homes lost in Lake Arrowhead so far

I'm listening to the live broadcast from MyFox Live: Los Angeles

http://media.myfoxla.com/live/

[SoCalDem]

3. Calfire website..covering ALL the fires

http://calfire.blogspot.com/

[Ian David]

4. disasters updates and advice UPOC Text Message Group

The following is a text-message group for sharing disaster info via cellphone text messaging.



disasters updates and advice

send invite Msg Delivery:

handle: disastersupd
#members: 190
type: public
allows pics, allows polls, allows voice
mms to: [e-mail] who can send msgs: All
who can invite: All
SMS reply goes to group
founder: Skymoon
since: Sep 04, 2004
description: A place 2 post alerts helping keep ppl,nature & Animals safe post True advice Only! Hurricanes Flooding Tornadoes Earthquakes Fires Explosions Chemical Spills Avalanches Excessive Snows & Sadley Terrorium Highway Closings All That Threatens U.S A Safty!

http://www.upoc.com/group.jsp?group=disastersupd

[gateley]

5. K&R! nt

[yewberry]

6. DUers in the fire areas, please check in.

Lounge threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7057960

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7059128&mesg_id=7059128

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7058996

Please add updates here if you see them.

[yewberry]

23. Link to earlier "check-in" thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2105144&mesg_id=2105144

[yewberry]

35. kpete check-in link here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2110641

Thank you, kpete!

[yewberry]

46. More DUers & resources here:

Live From San Diego County
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2107764&mesg_id=2107764

[yewberry]

113. Aaaand, here's another check-in from the Lounge:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7060217

Good news from Ellen Forradalom, The Straight Story, Peake, huskerlaw, devilgrrl, CaliforniaPeggy, EOO, Kitchenwitch, XemaSab, Capn Sunshine, puerco-bellies, and Gilligan.

I hope the news stays good for them!

[FreeState]

7. Small Pet (Dog and Cat, birds etc) free boarding SD and LA

San Diego:

VCA:

Mission Valley

VCA Emergency Animal Hospital - www.vcaemergency.com
2317 Hotel Cir S # A, San Diego - [phone]



LA:


http://ktla.trb.com/news/local/special2/ktla-petboardin...

List of Animal Hospitals Offering Free Pet Boarding
October 22, 2007, 3:16 PM PDT

VCA animal hospitals throughout Southern California are offering free boarding through Nov. 5 -- on a space-available basis -- for animals whose owners have been evacuated or displaced as a result of the firestorms.

Pet owners should call ahead to double-check, but VCA facilities in Los Angeles and Orange counties that may have space available include:

-- Burbank, VCA Animal Hospital, 818-845-7246

-- Canoga Park, VCA Companion Animal Hospital, 818-340-1569

-- Cypress, VCA College Park-Ana Brook Animal Hospital, 714-827-6861

-- Glendale, VCA Arden Animal Hospital, 818-246-2478

-- Hermosa Beach, VCA Coast Animal Hospital, 310-372-8881

-- Laguna Niguel, VCA Aliso Viejo Animal Hospital, 949-643-0437

-- Lake Forest, VCA Saddleback Animal Hospital, 949-586-4250

-- Lake Forest, VCA Arroyo Animal Hospital, 949-770-1808

-- Los Alamitos, VCA Rossmoor-El Dorado Animal Hospital. 562-598-8621

-- Los Angeles, VCA Miller-Robertson Animal Hospital, 310-657-7050

-- Los Angeles, VCA Petville Animal Hospital, 310-313-9118

-- Mission Viejo, VCA Mission Viejo Animal Hospital, 949-582-1220

-- Pasadena, VCA A Breed Apart Animal Hospital, 626-795-4444

-- Reseda, VCA McClave Animal Hospital, 818-881-5102

-- Santa Monica, VCA Santa Monica Dog and Cat Hospital, 310-453-5459

-- Santa Monica, VCA Wilshire Animal Hospital, 310-828-4587

-- Woodland Hills, VCA Parkwood Animal Hospital, 818-884-5506

[Mike03]

31. Horses?

Some organization/site is allowing people in burn areas to bring in their horses and "large animals", but I didn't catch the name of the location. I think it may be in Riverside. They have 140 so far, but they did not say there is any limit on how many they can keep. Also, owners are permitted to stay and comfort their animals.

ON EDIT:

Heard on KFWB News Radio 980 AM--great coverage, and online streaming, BTW

[suffragette]

8. Tv and text links

Here's a tv link:

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/index.html

Once there, look to the right for live video link.


Also, here's a text link to another station. It is being updated often.
http://www.cbs8.com /

[Duer 157099]

9. Live video coverage here:

http://ktla.trb.com/

[Ian David]

10. Thousands Evacuate From Scripps Ranch

POSTED: 2:20 pm PDT October 22, 2007
UPDATED: 3:07 pm PDT October 22, 2007

SAN DIEGO -- San Diego officials ordered thousands of residents living around the Miramar Reservoir to evacuate Monday afternoon.

Everyone living in the area bounded by MCAS Miramar on the south, Scripps Poway Parkway on the north, Interstate 15 on the east and Highway 67 on the west has been told to pack their cars and leave, according to Monica Munoz of the San Diego Police Department.

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/14397455/detail.html


See also:

Scripps Ranch is under mandatory evac now n/t
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2110423

[Duer 157099]

11. Free pet boarding info here:

http://ktla.trb.com/news/local/special2/

[lonestarnot]

12. Any news on Rancho Bernardo?

[tandot]

20. Oh boy. Here is something UNofficial from CBS8.com

http://www.cbs8.com/

HOMES COMPLETELY DESTROYED

Please note: The following homes have been confirmed destroyed by News 8 reporters on the ground. This list is not official, or complete.


Rancho Bernardo Area:

The following are address located in the 17,000 Block of Valladares Drive: 17616, 17788, 17848, 17635, 17605

11686 Jocatal Court

Cabella Drive:
18013, 17995, 17987, 17961, 11488, 11449

Aliento Court:
11552, 11533, 11523, 11512

Duenda Rd:
11478, 11479, 11469, 11468, 11464, 11458, 11459

Azucar Way:
17885, 17864, 17865, 17816, 17824, 17808

Aquamiel:
21 Homes

Escoba Place:
4 Homes

Danza Circle:
11517, 11534, 11537, 11524

Palito Court:
11529, 11536

Alcalde Street:
11476, 11460

Ipai Court
11072

[Elspeth]

42. And the Poway destroyed homes from the same source:

Poway
Sagewood Drive
13956

Country Day Road:
4 houses

Horizon Court
14326, 14310, 14325, 14342

[lonestarnot]

72. Thanks for that, but it is not good news at all. I will pass it on.

:cry: :hug:

[Elspeth]

83. I know. Not good news.

:(

[regnaD kciN]

112. They've updated that list...

...with quite a few more homes.

A few were on or near Highland Valley Road where it hooks up with I-15 at the very tip of land south of Lake Hodges. The majority of houses lost seem to have been on the west side of I-15, where it moved south into residential areas after jumping the freeway.

So far, no mention of my mom's home. But a couple of her good friends lived on Aguamiel, and aerial footage suggests their house is gone. :-(

[yewberry]

13. Resources boarding pets:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2110122

See post #4 for a list of LA area offering free boarding.

[yewberry]

14. Uhaul offering 1 month free storage for evacuees:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2110437

[sce56]

15. I don't live next to a fire area but I did have to wash the windshield this morning due to the soot

falling overnight! Santa Monica bay was nothing but a smoke bank this morning vs the normal fog bank!

[robinlynne]

17. A friend in the valley said they can't breathe, and left their home even though it's not near the

fire. (They have a baby.)

[sce56]

24. Yep the niños said no PE in school today county wide due to air quality!

[FreeState]

16. SD Evacuation Map

http://www.cbs8.com

[Ian David]

18. OMG... my mom used to live in Valley Center, right near Escondido.

I know everyone says this about their favorite Mexican restaurant... but The Grouchy Goucho in Valley Center really is the best Mexican Restaurant in the whole area.

Did Bates Nut Farm ever recover after the last fire?

[ContraBass Black]

21. That's the northern fire. The Harris fire is closing in on SD from the east.

[FreeState]

25. I cant find a map for that if anyone has one please post it.. N/T

[sce56]

32. See post #15 above for the LA Times google map of fires

Flames engulf Castle Kashan, a landmark home in Malibu.

[FreeState]

34. Evacuation map? Don't see it there... N/T

[sce56]

41. Did not see evac in your 1st post , I'll look

[sce56]

45. Best bet seems http://www.cbs8.com/ www.California.gov OES has no info

[Elspeth]

48. Yes. The CBS affilate here has been great. One of their reporters lost his own house

and kept reporting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKGF2bbxQ6E

[Ellen Forradalom]

19. Google map of fires

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=102617558666443238993.00043d07052ecf586cd1a&om=1&ll=34.011689,-117.295532&spn=2.13093,4.438477&source=embed

[ContraBass Black]

62. How can I get a map like this of the Harris and other fires?

[Ellen Forradalom]

70. Google SD Fires Map

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?uid=103734099241550080511&hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=107592071260393044446.00043d12d7e7e7af51aaa

[KitchenWitch]

22. checking in.

I am still in my home. We will be watering the roof again, soon. I am a few miles from the Santiago Canyon fire in Orange County.

I have been offline and not near the TV (on purpose) for the past two hours, so I have nothing new to report.

[yewberry]

27. Thanks, KW.

Glad to hear from you.

I'm far away from you, but if you need an out-of-area emergency contact, please let me know.

Best of luck.

[KitchenWitch]

28. Thank you!

:hi:

[Ian David]

29. Have you cleared all the brush around your home?

Also, I'd suggest storing extra water in large containers, in case you lose water pressure.

I don't know if it's possible (or a good idea) to cover your roof with a layer of soil or dirt or sand, but please keep every possibility in mind if things get desperate.

[KitchenWitch]

37. Brush is cleared

I have an extra garbage can I can fill with water...Great ideas, thank you!

:)

[Ian David]

40. Did you know that "Romney" in Tibetan means, "Dump Brush Here"?

So, if you see a sign that says, "Romney '08," that might be a good spot to dump all your cleared brush.

I'm kidding.

But seriously...

"Huckabee" is Japanese for "Disconnect our water."

[KitchenWitch]

49. OMG

:rofl:

[merh]

52. thanks KW

:hug:

[Ellen Forradalom]

26. Google map of San Diego Witch Fire

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?uid=103734099241550080511&hl=en&gl=us&ptab=2&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=107592071260393044446.00043d12d7e7e7af51aaa

[flyarm]

30. does anyone have info on Santa Monica beach area? Have they evac'ed?

i have been trying to get hold of my son since yesterday morn..by email and cell phone..he does not have a land line..

i can't get him ..and am very worried.

He lives In Santa Monica beach area...not far off PCH ...

He has not returned email from his work or his reg. email..or cell calls..

and i am worried...i am sure he is ok..but i am a nervous mom here..

thanks for any info anyone can give me from out there..


My cousin was just told to evac...in San Diego area..my aunt spoke to him..but i can't get my son on the cell..

Please all out there be safe!!

I raised my son out there so i know what it is like..during those fires.

saying prayers for everyone out there!!

fly

[sce56]

36. Santa Monica is not on fire see the google maps listed above

The fires prompted officials to evacuate parts of Malibu and shut down a section of the Pacific Coast Highway.

[flyarm]

56. Thank you..he just called his dad...

now i can relax!!

thanks for the maps!!

fly

[SlowDownFast]

44. Santa Monica is in no danger.

SM is basically NW LA.

LA would have to burn down in order to reach SM.

[Elspeth]

33. Wild Animal Park Safe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2110515

[Mike03]

38. Online Live Video Feeds

I'm going to attempt to post some good online sources for up to date visuals of what is going on.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=special_coverage&id=3654457

http://cbs2.com/

With the second link, then click on the "Live Video" feed of your choice. The helicopter coverage is mostly what I have been watching.

Also, two great all news SoCal radio stations with LiveStreaming are:

KFWB News 980 AM
KNX 1070 AM

Good luck all

[Beausoir]

78. Thank you for these.

[Catchawave]

39. Sign On San Diego

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/fireblog/

I'm concerned about the 10,000 people stuck in Qualcomm Stadium...desperate pleas for supplies.

[Elspeth]

43. Some good news

NEW: NORTH COUNTY EVACUATIONS LIFTED: Mandatory Evacuations have been LIFTED in San Marcos for San Elijo Hills and Coronado Hills.

(This means the San Marcos fire is not as dangerous as it was)

http://www.cbs8.com/

[FreeState]

47. Donations for Qualcomm needed ASAP

MAYOR SANDERS ISSUES PLEA FOR DONATIONS: San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders has issued a plea for donated blankets, cots and food items for those displaced by the wildfires at Qualcomm Stadium. The Stadium is filling rapidly, and displaced residents and responder teams are in dire need of food and supplies. Anyone with a large surplus of blankets and/or cots, or a restaurant that wishes to donate prepared food, please call [phone]. source: http://www.cbs8.com

[ContraBass Black]

50. My friend tells me that the only public notification system is reverse 911.

She lives at the back of a large apartment complex, far from the street, and has no land line. Will she be awoken if there's an evacuation order?

I'm going to keep watch on the reports while she sleeps tonight, but without a functioning cell phone network, I won't be able to wake her either.

[FreeState]

51. That and TV & Radio are doing alerts as well

Does she have neighbors that could notify here of any changes?

[ContraBass Black]

54. Checking. She reports that the witch fire is moving south

And may catch her in the Qualcomm area.

[FreeState]

57. Please no...

I live on the canyon overlooking Qualcomm at the 8 and the 805 intersection... heading home soon. Just to note anyone in the stadium would be safe either way there is no way the fire could get to it... its surrounded by huge concrete parking lots

[ContraBass Black]

65. if that area were evacuated, where would the residents go?

[FreeState]

66. Im not sure but I would guess PetCo Park downtown N/T

[haele]

73. It's got to get past Miramar MCAB and then go 2 miles through the city to get to

Qualcomm stadium- it's very unlikely that it will get down into Mission Valley to affect Qualcomm, even if if flanks around from the east through Mission Gorge. Also, it's not so dry in the city and valley area; not as much fuel to burn.
What I would be worried about would be the air quality issue. It's bad enough now - a couple days of thick, ashey clouds would be hazardous to health.

Haele

[FreeState]

53. New evacuation orders SD (Harbison Canyon and Crest)

Mandatory evacuation of Harbison Canyon and Crest ordered. Scripps Ranch added to mandatory evacuations, following Fallbrook in the north and Valley Center.

(Source UT http://www.signonsandiego.com)

[Mike03]

55. Major Air Support now in Arrowhead

Modified DC-10 retrofitted to drop more than 12,000 gallons of fire retardent now in action. Biggest air support so far, according to ABC affiliate Los Angeles.

[lonestarnot]

59. N. & S. Carolina sending planes of some sort. Hope they can control them safely from somewhere.

[MsRedacted]

69. The planes they used for fire (at least that I've seen) are rather large. Not sure

that "control" of them is an issue.

[lonestarnot]

71. Am not sure it is an issue either, but visibility has been, so I made an assumption. One should

never make assumptions.

[sce56]

77. Flying over a raging fire is a serious deal with updrafts and in the Santa Anna Winds

Incident

Tanker 910 experienced its first serious incident on June 25, 2007. While on its third run over the White Fire in the Kern County mountains near Tehachapi, California, the aircraft was in a left bank while turning from base to final approach, when it encountered severe turbulence, the left wing dropped, and the aircraft descended 100 to 200 feet lower than expected.<6><10> The left wing struck several trees before pilots were able to power out of the descent. The aircraft climbed to altitude for a controllability check and to dump its load of retardant, then returned to its base in Victorville, where it made an emergency landing and was grounded pending an investigation, inspection, and repairs.<6><7><10>

A post-incident investigation showed that the aircraft suffered damage to the left wing's leading edge, slats, ailerons and flaps.<11>

Despite the accident, the CAL FIRE has stated that they are happy with the aircraft.<12> The aircraft returned to the sky for a test flight after repairs on July 30.<11><12>

It is seriously dangerous!
Tanker 130 down !!!

WALKER, Calif. (AP) - An air tanker fighting a blaze near Yosemite National Park caught fire Monday and crashed in this Northern California resort town, killing all three crew members and just missing a mechanic's shop, authorities and witnesses said (17Jun2002).

Air tanker 130 (N130HP) plunges to the ground after breaking up in the air, its wings folding up and falling off in a ball of flame, while fighting a fire near Walker, California, June 17, 2002. All three crew members were killed when the aircraft spun into the ground just moments later. Photo by Reuter Press Agency

[lonestarnot]

84. Yes I know it is seriously dangerous.

[sce56]

60. Just saw that live on KCBS2

From Wikipedia, file photo
Tanker 910 is the call-sign of the only wide-body jet air tanker currently in fire service. The aircraft, operated by 10 Tanker Air Carrier, is a converted McDonnell Douglas DC-10 aircraft used for fighting wildfires, typically in rural areas. The turbofan-powered craft carries up to 12,000 gallons (45,600 liters) of water or fire retardant in an exterior belly-mounted tank, which can be released in eight seconds.

[sce56]

75. It is about to drop another load right now! Live on TV

And they are talking about how back in Jun it clipped some trees during a drop! See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanker_910 fro the 411 on 910

[kineneb]

76. fire planes are usually retrofitted bombers or older transport airliners

as a child, I would sit in my back yard in Redding and watch the CDF planes fly off to fight fires in the surrounding areas. We were apparently under the flight path, so I got to see all sorts of interesting Korean-era military planes.

[lonestarnot]

58. What can I do to help?

[FreeState]

61. Where are you?

If your not in So CA... hopefully in the next few days we can get some lists of donation sources up.

here is the SD Red Cross page:

http://www.sdarc.org/site/pp.asp?c=erKQL4NQE&b=127361


EDIT to add if you are in SD County STOP USING YOUR CELL PHONE! Land lines only.

[lonestarnot]

63. In AZ.

And don't trust Red Cross, who else ya got?

[redacted]

64. VIDEO: LIVE NOW | CONTINUING COVERAGE OF WILDFIRES BURNING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

http://media.myfoxla.com/live/

[Mike03]

74. Good Feed, thanks.

Fox can do something helpful every once in awhile.

Truly, these live feeds are fantastic for people who do not have cable or are not in Los Angeles.

[redacted]

99. Thanks Mike. Yes these live feeds are great. We have family in the City of Orange

along the banks of the river and we're watching Tustin, Orange and Anaheim carefully right now.

Because the winds are blowing southeast away from the population, and should continue that way for the next several hours, we think those folks will be OK.

[Sukie1941]

67. San Diego zoo situation as of 3:45 pm PST 10-22-07

Evacuations and fire preparations are underway at the Wild Animal Park due to the threat of nearby wild fires.

As of 5 a.m., all employees and personnel were evacuated from the Wild Animal Park.
As of 3:45 p.m., As fire conditions permit, limited personnel continue to monitor the facility, tend to spot fires, and ensure animal safety.
Evacuations:
Certain critically endangered animals, such as the California condors, were evacuated to a safe zone in the middle of the night. Several of the Park’s other animals housed in threatened areas have also been evacuated, including education ambassador animals.

The Paul Harter Veterinary Medical Center has been chosen as the safe zone for the condors and animals not located in field enclosures. The area is free of brush and other fuels, is located near the highway, and is a state-of-the-art facility equipped with sprinkler systems and medical equipment.

A majority of the Wild Animal Park animal collection is housed in open, expansive 80 plus-acre field enclosures. These enclosures contain no dry brush or coastal sage. The grass growing in these areas is heavily irrigated. Chance of fire spreading into these habitats is highly unlikely; therefore, the hundreds of animals who live in these areas will be safest to remain in the enclosures during a fire.

Historically, the Wild Animal Park experienced a fire in October 1993. Several hundred acres of habitat surrounding the Wild Animal Park were destroyed, but the fire did not spread to the field enclosures and no animals were harmed. During the 1993 fire, none of the Park’s structures were impacted with the exception of the Wgasa Bush Line Railway track, which served as a firebreak. The parking lot was used as a staging area for fire fighting units and a command center was operated from the keeper training trailer.

Heavy smoke has reached the Wild Animal Park. However, according to animal care staff, the animals are alert but are not showing behaviors of concern. The animals seem to know when they are in immediate danger and when they are not. Brush has been cleared from around the Park. Fire hoses are laid out and ready for use if needed.

[FreeState]

68. Thats the Wild Animal Park not the Zoo - the Zoo is safe

The Zoo is close to downtown in the Hillcrest area. Unless the fires go down the 163 there is almost Zero chance the Zoo will have a problem. (The Zoo does run the Wild Animal Park though)

[Capn Sunshine]

85. San Diego Wild Animal park says they are safe. for now

Big firebreak there and heavy irrigation surrounds them They say no problem except for smoke.

[Capn Sunshine]

86. Malibu Canyon -new flare up Ventura County- wind shift is trouble for Fillmore

If you know where Piuma Rd. Is, it's right there, off Mulholland up towards Rambla Pacifica.

The Castaic fire has spawned a spin off that is heading for Piru/Fillmore/ 126 highway. Heading South.

In other news, the one by my house in Santa Rosa valley is out.

[bliss_eternal]

79. As many as 350,000 homes w/out power at this time...

...(per NBC news and Southern California Edison). From Inland Empire to Malibu (affecting Los Angeles and neighboring areas). Could be without power 24 hours or more.

Some DU'ers may be unable to check in because of this. :(

Hopes and prayers for safety going out to all affected by this tragedy tonight.

Be well All!
:hug:

[uppityperson]

80. Donate to Salvation Army, NOT Red Cross.

Speaking from experience, Salvation Army (sallyann) gets stuff, people, etc there faster with much less waste while Red Cross uses more money.

San Diego sallyann: http://www.sandiego.salvationarmy.org/

Sallyann western usa:
http://usw.salvationarmy.org/

What they're doing:
http://www1.usw.salvationarmy.org/usw/www_usw.nsf/vw-news/28392868A48E4E318025737C0065A013?opendocument


Main SalvArmy
http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/

[lonestarnot]

82. YES! Thanks!

[FreeState]

87. Just give

I don't care who you chose to give to, just give.

Here in SD both Red Cross and Salvation Army are awful if you ask me - however they do get things done. Salvation Army is extremely anti gay and I refuse to give to them, however there are others that you can help.

[uppityperson]

88. That's good to know. Give to whom?

[lonestarnot]

122. Somebody that doesn't have IT.

[uppityperson]

157. That is obvious, but I am across the country, don't know anyone personally

who is burnt out, but waiting and watching with a friend. So, I was asking if not Red cross (I don't like their policies) or Salvarmy, then to whom. Thanks. kick again.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

81. K7R ...Good Luck. ..n/t

[williesgirl]

89. Skinner - Can we set up a DU fund for DUers needing help in CA? I don't have much but want to help

if there's a way to help fellow DUers get through this.

[Le Taz Hot]

94. Maybe at the same time

those of us in other parts of CA can offer up other resources such as temporary housing. The smoke from the fires hasn't reached Central CA (yet). My guess is the same can be said for the Bay Area and Southern California.

[Elspeth]

90. Advisory evacuations in Del Mar

Solano Beach already mandatory evacuation

[FreeState]

95. Del Mar Mandatory evacuations now... all the way to the ocean

NEW: DEL MAR MANDATORY EVACUATIONS

Evacuations have been ordered for the following areas: South of Del Dios Highway, north of Sorrento Valley Road and west of Black Mountain Road to the ocean. Evacuees are being advised to go to centers at Carlsbad High School, Encinitas Senior and Community Center and Qualcomm Stadium.

http://www.cbs8.com

[AtomicKitten]

91. My entire family there has been evacuated.

My mom and a sister from Rancho Bernardo.
Another sister in Poway.
My nephew and his family from Valley Center.

Unreal.

[proud patriot]

97. I hope they are safe

:(

[AtomicKitten]

98. thanks (nt)

[Elspeth]

100. I am so sorry.

I am not sleeping tonight. The fire is moving south and they are evacuating Del Mar. The south beach areas are so close....

[AtomicKitten]

104. thank you

Rancho Santa Fe is in jeopardy too.

[Elspeth]

123. Rancho Santa Fe is now on fire. 6:40 am Tuesday

This has got to be the worst fire in SD recorded history

[uppityperson]

103. I hope they are ok, and everyone else is too. Good luck to all.

kick too

[AtomicKitten]

105. thank you

This fire is horribly spectacular in its magnitude.

[Arugula Latte]

92. DailyKos has liveblogging, info., resources:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/22/121255/53

[tjwash]

93. I have a house full of evacues right now.

They just evacuated all of the aircraft out of Miramar, which is just on the other side of the mountain from us here in San Carlos. The witch fire is heading toward Mira Mesa now.

[Elspeth]

101. Bless you for that.

My friend's parents are in Mira Mesa. Oh Lord. :(

[Individualist]

96. SignonSanDiego has a fireblog

http://fireblog.signonsandiego.com/

[Elspeth]

102. This link takes you to Google. Try the one below:

http://sosdfireblog.blogspot.com/

[Individualist]

136. The link I posted takes me to the blog

:shrug: Yours works just as well.

Stay safe, Elspeth!

[begin_within]

106. Witch Fire is headed towards Olivenhain and Rancho Santa Fe

Harris fire headed towards Otay Lakes

Crest, Harbison Canyon and Spring Valley evacuated
Rancho Santa Fe evacuating

[begin_within]

107. Excellent live video at KGTV - identical to the broadcast

Although it lags approximately 2 minutes behind what is on the air in San Diego, it's the same exact broadcast. Go to:

http://www.10news.com/video/14036255/index.html

[Iwillnevergiveup]

108. We live in northeast L.A.

where there are no nearby flames, but the smoke is unbearable. Gotta close windows, turn on A/C and close eyes now. But we're among the lucky ones.

[MiniMe]

109. kick

[begin_within]

110. Here's a map I made from a satellite photo taken today

[AnotherMother4Peace]

116. Thank you for this map. n/t

[begin_within]

138. You're welcome, also see my post below for another map.

[begin_within]

111. Loren Nancarrow on KGTV now reporting a major flare-up moving towards Rancho Santa Fe

A big wind came up and it is moving towards "The Bridges" golf course in Rancho Santa Fe.

[haele]

114. Harris Fire Update - 2:25am

We can see flames on Mt. Miguel in the distance across about three/four mesas from just east of Balboa Park. Since we're off a canyon, we're making our plans to get out of our cul-de-sac - it may be ocean facing, but it does have a feeder finger from the 94 and 15/805, so if the fire rushes up the 94 to downtown, we'll be able to head north to Qualcomm on surface streets. I don't think that will happen, but it never hurts to be prepared...

I'd hate to live in El Cajon, they're almost in a pincher should the Witch Fire continue south and the Harris Fire move north.

Haele

[AnotherMother4Peace]

115. 3:15 am - fire is threatening much of San Diego, areas like Spring Valley, Bonita

Wild Cat Canyon & Spring Valley have mandatory evacuations. Yesterday they were saying some areas may burn to the ocean, I didn't believe it - Tonight I'm thinking it might be true. It is quite frightening. Many evacuees. I'm near the coast, & will be going out tomorrow to try to help in some way, some centers are calling for volunteers. They are also calling on keeping the roads clear, so I'll be careful to be a help & not a hindrance.

Take care.

[Name removed]

117. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

118. 500 homes burned - New fire on Palomar Mountain & La Jolla Indian Reservation.

[itsrobert]

119. CELL PHONE AND VOIP REVERSE 911 REGISTRATION SAN DIEGO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2114034&mesg_id=2114034

Reverse 911®
Emergency Notification System

The Emergency Notification System allows the City to rapidly send telephone notifications to all residents and businesses in an affected area in the event of an emergency. An operator using the system can identify the affected neighborhood or region of the city and record a message that describes the situation. The system will automatically call listed and unlisted telephone numbers (including TTY/TDD) within the affected area and deliver the recorded message. If phone lines are busy, the system will attempt to redial those telephone numbers to make contact. If an answering machine picks up the call, the emergency

[Elspeth]

124. Great info itsrobert

How are you this morning?

[ContraBass Black]

125. Thank you. This is exactly what my friend needs.

And now, we're both going to bed. :D

[Ian David]

126. The Department of Homeland Security already has our phone numbers anyway, yes? n/t

[Elspeth]

127. The reverse 911 system in San Diego works with the local land lines, not cell phones.

That's why robert's info is so important.

DHS is FEMA's parent agency. I don't trust either of them for a real emergency. Seems DHS knows if you pay off your credit card, but they are NOT a first responder any more, and they don't care to get involved.

[Ian David]

130. From the Reverse 911 Link...

<snip>

hereby give authorization to the City of San Diego Office of Homeland Security to add my unlisted/non-published telephone number into the Reverse 911® database:

For additional information, please contact [e-mail].

Privacy Notice and Disclaimer
The City of San Diego, California will not share or distribute personal information gathered by this form and will use it solely for the purpose of providing Community Emergency notifications. Your information is submitted over a secure, encrypted connection for your protection.

With respect to documents and services available from this server, neither the City of San Diego nor any of its agencies and affiliates nor any of their employees, makes any warrant, express or implied, including the warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, or assumes any legal liability or responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information, apparatus, product, or process disclosed.

More:
http://www.sandiego.gov/ohs/reverse911/index.shtml

[Elspeth]

131. Yes, that is why you have to request it for your cell phone; it doesn't work on cells otherwise

Trust me, I've been on top of this, if not a "know-it-all" all the time. I'm trying to figure out when and if to evacuate.

[itsrobert]

129. DIRECT LINK

Sorry, I meant to put the Direct link in their too.

http://www.sandiego.gov/ohs/reverse911/index.shtml

[Elspeth]

134. Thanks, robert. You still ok?

I'm watching the Harris fire with some trepidation.

[BadgerLaw2010]

120. Map on SignonSandiego shows Witch branching - one north of Hodge, one south, main push for coast

No indication the westward arm has even been irritated by efforts in front of it.

DEL MAR and ENCINITAS could be in very serious danger.

[Theres-a]

121. K & R

[Elspeth]

128. Voluntary Evacuations in South San Diego (South Bay, city limits)

NEW: SOUTH BAY VOLUNTARY EVACUATIONS
Residents east of I-805, west of Alta Road, south of Main Street and north of the border are under VOLUNTARY EVACUATION orders.

http://www.cbs8.com/

[AnotherMother4Peace]

132. Crap, it is burning to the ocean - that area is about 7 - 8 miles from the ocean

[Elspeth]

133. I know. I know....

:scared: :scared: :scared:

[Hatchling]

135. Broadcast towers threatened.

KPBS has lost TV and radio connection with the Mt. San Miguel broadcast towers and is now broadcasting on FM 94.9. All cable customers will not be affected.

[Elspeth]

137. Some TV stations are sharing their signals

This is pretty bad

[begin_within]

139. Map of main fire areas, also Blackwater site

Here is a satellite photo of San Diego County, and the areas overlaid in red are the approximate perimeters of the two largest fires currently burning (Witch Creek and Harris fires). These perimeters are approximate, and are still changing at this hour. In fact, as I am typing this they are saying on the TV that 25 homes in Rancho Santa Fe have burned. The reddened areas are just approximations of the areas which have burned already. These 2 fires are still burning and both are reported to be moving towards the west.

Also indicated is the area burned in the Cedar Fire of October 2003, and the location of Blackwater's proposed new "Blackwater West" site (bottom right of image).

[lebkuchen]

146. excellent map

thanks

[Elspeth]

148. 1,000 Structures Burned By Wildfires

Officials Fear Erratic Winds; More Than 346,000 Homes Evacuated
1 Fatality, 1,000 Structures Burned By Wildfires

POSTED: 12:28 pm PDT October 21, 2007
UPDATED: 11:19 am PDT October 23, 2007


POTRERO, Calif. -- Fearing erratic winds, San Diego officials intend to be very cautious in allowing evacuated residents to return to their homes for fear of putting them back in the path of wildfires that are shifting direction throughout Southern California.

In all, more than 346,000 homes have been ordered evacuated in San Diego County.

Wildfires across Southern California have destroyed more than 1,300 homes and show no signs of slowing.

Authorities are placing reverse 911 calls to the San Diego County homes because of wildfire danger.

With the number of homes ordered evacuated, more than 750,000 people could easily have fled since the wildfires began over the weekend in San Diego County. The number of people joining the mandatory exodus is expected to grow throughout the day as more communities are put on standby to leave as several fires burned a path toward the sea -- through populated communities.

Says a spokesman for the county's emergency effort, "It's basically a mass migration here in San Diego County. The numbers we're seeing are staggering."

The county has lost at least 1,000 structures to the fires.

State officials warned that the total estimate of evacuees in the region could rise, because officials were still working to determine how many people had fled. San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said that 274,000 homes and at least 300,000 residents were asked to clear out in San Diego county alone.

Officials said there are 23 active shelters, five of them full.

"We are in for another very dangerous day today,” said Ron Lane, San Diego County’s emergency services director. “The winds and the fire itself are behaving very erratically. Just because you’re safe right now and it looks like the fire is going away from you, that could shift.”

Officials want to avoid giving a green light for residents to return only to have to order them out again, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said.

“We have to make absolutely sure they’ll be safe there so we don’t have to move people again once they return,” Sanders said.

Officials also told residents who are not under mandatory evacuation orders to stay home from work and avoid unnecessary travel.

The fires have created a huge strain on the power grid. Authorities have shut down a host of high-voltage lines serving San Diego, prompting officials to urge residents to conserve power.

Evacuations were under way in eastern Chula Vista Tuesday, prompted by a wind-driven, 22,000-acre wildfire that killed a Tecate man and injured 21 others since it began in rural southeastern San Diego County on Sunday.

The so-called Harris Fire, the only deadly fire among about 10 raging across Southern California, began about 9:30 a.m. Sunday near Harris Ranch and Potrero Valley roads. It was about 5 percent contained, or surrounded, after burning about 22,000 acres, according to the California Department of Forestry, also known as Cal Fire.

Early Tuesday, firefighters were trying to stop the advance of flames up San Miguel Mountain and were worried the blaze could move into Lakeside, said Cal Fire Capt. Don Camp.

"The fire is very active off Proctor Valley Road," he said.

Thomas James Varshock, 52, died in the fire on Sunday, according to the San Diego County Medical Examiner's Office.

Structures have been damaged or destroyed in Tecate, Dulzura and Barrett Junction, according to fire officials, though no details about the kinds of properties or losses were available.

Unrelenting high winds -- in some spots, mountaintop gusts hit 100 mph -- periodically grounded firefighting aircraft Monday morning, adding to the difficulty of trying to make headway against the inferno.

Helicopters were able to begin aiding in the fire fight by midday Monday, but conditions remained too windy for fixed-wing aircraft.

"We've had a very limited assault from the air," Camp said, explaining that firefighters are approaching the blaze from its flanks.

"Essentially, we're chasing the fires," he said.

Residents along Mother Grundy Truck Trail and Deer Horn Valley were evacuated Monday to Steele Canyon High School, which was already filled with people evacuated Sunday. Overflow evacuees were sent to Santana High School in Santee.

Residents of Coyote Holler were evacuated east to Campo. Evacuation orders also were in place for areas north of Lake Wohlford, fire officials said.

Areas near Honey Springs and Lyons Valley roads, and all areas east toward Cleveland National Forest, were evacuated about 9:30 a.m. Monday.

In Potrero, sheriff's deputies ordered evacuations along Highway 94 for residents in Barrett Junction, Engineer Springs, Dulzura and all points between. Potrero, Tecate and parts of Deerhorn Valley were also evacuated.

Five firefighters and 16 civilians suffered burns and other injuries, officials said.

Authorities said the injured crew members got trapped in a "burn-over." They were overcome by towering flames that shot over their heads, apparently while defending a structure. A dispatcher said none of their injuries was believed to be life-threatening.

A Cal Fire investigative team arrived in San Diego Monday night and checked into a downtown hotel. The team will look at how the firefighters got caught in the burn-over, according to CDF firefighter Kathleen McGowan.

More than 300 firefighters were assigned to the blaze. The firefighting effort has cost about $1.3 million so far, according to Cal Fire.

Witch Creek Fire Continues To Burn

The Witch Creek Fire continued forging a path of destruction through San Diego County Tuesday, raging across 164,000 acres and destroying 600 homes and businesses as it advances uncontrolled east of Ramona and forces more people from their homes.

The blaze, which has been designated as the state's top firefighting priority in the midst of more than a dozen fires burning across Southern California, was just 1 percent contained. Some officials said the wind-whipped blaze could easily eclipse the level of destruction caused by the 2003 Cedar Fire that charred 280,278 acres and killed 15 people.

No one has died in the Witch Creek Fire, although seven firefighters and two civilians have been injured.

About 500 homes have been destroyed and 250 have been damaged. Also, 50 outbuildings have been destroyed and 50 more have been damaged, while 100 commercial buildings have been destroyed and 75 damaged, according to the California Department of Forestry, or Cal Fire.

The fire, which began Sunday, merged Tuesday with another blaze that started at about the same time in the San Pasqual Valley near Highway 78 and Bandy Canyon Road.

Mandatory evacuations were issued Monday for residents on several streets in Del Mar, while other residents were urged to prepare to evacuate. In Solana Beach, the city "strongly" encouraged residents to leave.

A flare-up on the Barona Ranch Indian Reservation led authorities to evacuate parts of Wildcat Canyon and Muth Valley just after 3 a.m. Officials said the fire had moved into Wildcat Canyon.

Among the hardest-hit areas is northern Rancho Bernardo, where as many as 300 homes went up in flames Monday, according to a group of firefighters taking a break at a strip mall on West Bernardo Drive last night.

The blaze also prompted the evacuation of Fallbrook and Pomerado hospitals, and most area schools were closed Monday and again Tuesday. About 34,000 San Diego Gas & Electric customers were without electricity Monday night.

There are 1,492 firefighters working the fire. About 1,200 National Guard troops began arriving in San Diego Tuesday and are expected to help with law enforcement, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said.

Shelters were set up at Qualcomm Stadium, Santana High School, Poway Community Park, Poway Girls & Boys Club, Campo Community Center, Mission Hills High School, Mira Mesa High School, Escondido High School, the Del Mar Fairgrounds, Steele Canyon High School and San Marcos High School. Several of the school shelters are full.

The Witch Creek Fire primarily has been fueled by thick, old brush just outside the burn area of the Cedar Fire, considered one of the worst wildfires in state history. That conflagration, which broke out the evening of Oct. 25, 2003, destroyed more than 2,200 homes and caused $1.06 billion in insured losses. A hunter, Sergio Martinez, of West Covina, admitted setting that blaze to signal for help after he became lost in the Kesslar Flats area. Martinez was sentenced to six months in community confinement. He was also ordered to perform 960 hours of community service and pay $150 a month to the U.S. Forest Service for five years, with the money to go toward training hunters.

Brush Fire Breaks Out In Wildcat Canyon
A fire broke out along Wildcat Canyon Road near the Barona Ranch Indian Reservation Tuesday, according to the California Highway Patrol.

The fire, reported along Wildcat Canyon Road at Mile Marker 3 at 1:14 a.m., was burning in a line about 300 yards wide along "the whole side of the mountain," according to a CHP dispatcher.

[Elspeth]

140. Parts of POWAY--open!

South of Twin Peaks road

East of Community Road
to Tierra Bonita Road on the north and Donard on the south

West of Ipava Drive

West and north of Poway Road

[Elspeth]

141. The news corrected themselves. City of Poway not letting people back.

http://www.cbs8.com/

[spinbaby]

142. It says they're allowed back in

Sure would be nice if some folks could go home for a change.

[Elspeth]

143. They haven''t updated the website yet. 513,000 people evacuated

Half a million people in San Diego alone.

[Elspeth]

144. Interstate 15 is open

Evacuees can go north.

[lebkuchen]

145. Anyone have info on Carlsbad?

Has that community been forced to evac?

[Elspeth]

147. No, not yet.

www.cbs8.com

[Elspeth]

149. San Diego weather (from KUSI, channel 9)

Conditions Today
Dry, Gusty, Santa Ana winds will slowly end today as high pressure moves to the east. An on-shore flow will slowly return during the evening and early Wednesday morning which should help reduce the wildfire danger.

[ContraBass Black]

150. My friend left the message "at Qualcomm until they evacuate"

What's going on?

[Elspeth]

151. The Harris fire is coming from the south

This fire started in Potrero--a rural area, where oddly enough, Blackwater was going to set up shop. We have a DU video about the protests in Potrero in the video forum.

Anyway, this fire has been growing and moving northwest, from the US/Mexico border toward the city limits of San Diego proper. This is the fire I am watching carefully. If it moves too far north, we within the city limits will be evacuated.

The Harris fire hit San Miguel overnight and knocked out lots of communications signals including TV and radio. Two TV stations in SD are sharing a signal now because of burning towers.

[ContraBass Black]

152. I'm tracking the fire.

Are they going to empty Qualcomm? Where would the people go? Are there advisories or evacuations for the surrounding areas, particularly three miles to the West of Qualcomm?

[nadinbrzezinski]

154. If they have to evac qualcom we are having other problems

Don't ask, but that is the damn truth

[Elspeth]

155. They will do everything to prevent this fire from coming into the city of SD

No one has talked about the Harris fire getting to the city. If it did, however, they would have to evacuate Qualcomm.

[BadgerLaw2010]

158. They're trying to stop it at Rancho San Diego.

[Elspeth]

159. How is it now?

And what direction is it going in?

[nadinbrzezinski]

153. Updates on opened areas

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2118009

[nam78_two]

156. Yes that would be great-I have family there and I have no idea what is going on

:(
My cousin, his wife and my nephew and niece.
I haven't heard from them and they aren't answering emails or calls.

[Elspeth]

160. Where are they nam78_two?

Were they in the areas that got evacuated?

[Elspeth]

161. Northeastern part of Rancho Bernardo being allowed home

East of Pomerado Road
West of the city of Poway
North of Espola Road