When "Your Family" turns Against YOU!

[KoKo]

How do you deal with it? I'm thinking of how we Dems in our Repug Families where many of us are "persona non grata"..(be Gone! they say) and our Democratic Party (who voted to censure those who were members of Move On.org" and all the assaults on Dems who Supported Howard Dean as DNC CHAIR...who went to the BAT with their antiquated Dem Parties...to get him ELECTED overe HILLARY/Emmanuel's Candidates!

So...they want to "Throw us Under the Bush Bus" and VOID ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE..since SELECTION 2000!

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

The "Writing is on the Wall" and "DEM ACTIVISTS ARE OUT!" Out of "favor, fortune and to be offshored if they can find a way."

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? :shrug:

[Taverner]

1. How about seceeding from the US?

California is a nice place to live...

[acmavm]

2. We don't go anywhere. WE stand and fight and if they don't like it they

can take an ass whuppin' or get the hell out of the way.

[Deja Q]

3. Or community. Fill in the blank and everybody would find an interesting answer.

[SoCalDem]

4. I'm just ignoring the whole thing until it's time to actually vote

I have a feeling that no one is gonna change their minds much..and the primaries will decide what happens..

Polls say this and polls say that, but when people do that secret ballot thing, they are the ones who decide..

Cheer up KoKo01

[mntleo2]

5. First They Ignore You ...

...then they they ridicule you ...then they they persecute you ...then you win ~ Mahatma Gandhi.

We have been in the "ridicule" stage for a long time and that is not working as our voices gain strength.

In many ways the signs you show is proof we ARE winning. We are becoming a danger to the status quo. We are being persecuted now ~ and one way is shunning. Shunning is considered an effective way to force people to "behave." For we humans who are "pack animals" most of the time that works all right. But in reality, it means we have to persist, because we are coming close to the time when we take over and become the status quo. We cannot turn to them, we need to turn to one another who understand and support the change in order to survive the shunning. I understand your sense of despair and share it at times until someone points out that it is in persistence that you win.

Gandhi was a student of the writings about Jesus. As a matter of fact, as a devout Hindu, he said he was inspired to his non-violent movement by the words of Jesus, especially from the Sermon on the Mount. Another parable Jesus told that puzzle followers (it did me for a long time) was the story of the widow who keeps going to a judge and demanding justice. After contemplation though it became obvious to me. You can read the passage here: http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults.php?passage1=Luke+18&version1=31.

The judge did not care about justice nor about what people thought. In the day this story was told, a widow had absolutely no power, and did not have much hope of being heard. But she kept coming back and coming back and coming back. The judge finally could not stand it anymore and said to himself, "I can't take this anymore, maybe I should give her what she wants and then she will leave me alone!" This widow had faith whether or not her faith was because God would "help" her, or that her persistence would work, either way, she did not give up because she had faith it would work.

So people give up at these last 2 signs, but take heart, the signs are very indicative we are close.


My 2 cents

Cat In Seattle

[KoKo]

6. I'm hoping one day to get through the "Ridicule Stage...."

:-( It's been a long time coming.....and we are stuck...and some of us with families who are Repugs...have been waiting TOO LONG...for the "turn."

[mntleo2]

13. Yeah I can understand that a lot

...while I was raised with WOBBLY S as family, and my people would not even fraternize with Republicans (except my grandfather who was the "outsider" but he was from Missouri and there a Republican was more the progressive in his day and the Democrats were the "conservatives"), and yeah I would be sad and miss that side of my family. Grandpa was tolerated, but his reasons for being a Republican was the same as ours for being Dems, and this was because most of us were from the Northwest and he from the South and this made a difference then as far as political philosophy ~ he was born in 1888 right after the Civil War, and his was Abraham Lincoln's party then, see?

But now that is all gone. And in the 1930's when Republicans began to be the rich man's party, this was when the split began for those of us in the North, I think. At least that was what I saw in my own family. NOBODY but nobody would or could bring themselves to socialize with them after that. I am the same way ~ and even then, if the person were sincerely a conservative, not a wing nut who wants to impose their beliefs and force them on people, I might be more tolerant than my elders were.

It is a hard row to hoe to stand for your beliefs. I have lost friends and loved ones when I made stances that were not what they understand and/or agreed with. It was very painful. But I don't regret making them and feel that THEY are the ones missing out on me, and if they do not like it, perhaps I am better off without them. And I had to seek other places and family (blood or not) where my philosophies were accepted and it has been a good thing, though strange and sometimes hard to open up to those who were not my family. It took me awhile to know WHO I could open up to and who I could not. This has been a good thing in the long run. Because I look back at how miserable I would have been should I decided to "behave" and lose my soul trying to appease them. Also, by not staying in familiar patterns that would have made me sick in my heart, I believe I am better off. I do not think that anyone really loves me nor I them unless we can accept one another as we are, not as THEY want you to be.

But this is what I think and I can super relate to mourning the loss! It is not easy and it is not comfortable. I guess we just have to ask ourselves which would make us sicker ~ to stay in the place that forces us to give up a piece of our spirits in order to "belong" or is it better to not have to do that? Sometimes it is worth the price and other times it is not. I have found that most of the times it is not.

Cat

[Mugu]

7. I'm an orphan with no living family.

It would have been my moms seventy fifth birthday today. I would much rather be able to say 'happy birthday' and tell her about all the things that have gone on in my life since her death so many years ago than worry about her politics. It makes little sense to alienate family or friends over politics. Do so at your own peril.

Regards, Mugu

[KoKo]

9. You aren't alone...there are many of us with Repug Families who feel orphaned

and I just got off the phone with two of them tonight. That's why I posted. Might as well be an orphan when your family doesn't understand who you are.. :shrug:

[Mugu]

12. KoKo01 I'm trying to tell you that politics

are not important enough to alienate loved ones. If you wish to disagree that is your prerogative. I only hope that you never regret it.

Regards, Mugu

[bdamomma]

8. I wish we could dredge up part of sea for an island for us progressives

so we could all live in peace, yes, kind of far fetched but what a nice idea. living in peace. Sorry for being off base in topic.

[grasswire]

10. well, there is that town for sale in Washington state

Did you see that thread yesterday? Some talked about turning it into a DU commune.

[KoKo]

11. Not a bad idea....

Even with our diversity...maybe we could make it work? We at least all share some core...unlike strangely...some of us with our blood kin...and politicians who don't seem to get what's going on at all.

:shrug: