the vote is shifting, WTF we won it?!?!?!?!

[NightWatcher]

this is the craziest damn thing I've ever seen.


it looks like we are going to get a debate on the House Floor.


Go Dennis

[iamthebandfanman]

1. i know!

i wonder what agenda the republicans have by doing this ?

[Hobarticus]

5. They may have taken the bait...eom

[Synnical]

2. What the hell is going on?

The numbers are changing faster than I can type!

[Hobarticus]

3. This would be the most elaborate bait-and-switch in history...

Can you freakin' IMAGINE?!?

[onenote]

4. what's going on is that the repubs want the motion to table to fail

so they can force a vote on the impeachment motion, which they will then win.

[redqueen]

9. Debate before vote.

I'd love to hear that debate.

[onenote]

12. one hour of blather, followed by a vote to defeat the articles

Bank on it.

[redqueen]

19. Blather?

Interesting word you use to describe discussing the multitude of crimes and misdemeanors this monster is guilty of.

[onenote]

41. I've listened to enough floor debates in my time to know how substantive they aren't

There will be a lot of posturing by both sides and then a vote and then it will be all over.

[redqueen]

I don't like your attitude, but hey...

you go on and have fun with your little crusade here!

:hi:

[onenote]

48. I don't care what you think about my attitude. Show me where I'm wrong factually.

[redqueen]

49. One hour of debate.

You said just an up or down vote.

There's ONE.

[onenote]

52. As I said. One hour of debate, which will be largely blather. And then a vote

[redqueen]

54. You're all over the place.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2218934&mesg_id=2219150

Anyway, like I said before... have fun. :hi:

[onenote]

56. and you have comprehension problems

DK's plan was to call for a vote. That automatically sets in motion a limited one hour period of debate. I clarified this in several posts that you choose to ignore.

The fact is that the best thing that can happen now is for the Democrats to salvage this with a motion to refer DK resolution back to the Judiciary Committee.

[redqueen]

60. That's one way to see it, yes.

Or you could see it that you're a poor communicator.

Either way... again... have fun! :hi:

[Le Taz Hot]

40. It will also force and up or down

vote by all, including the Democrats. These traitors need to go on record as to whether they support the Constitution or support their own greedy self-interests.

[Mme. Defarge]

59. YES!

YES! A THOUSAND TIMES YES!

[redqueen]

6. Repukes are for accountability while Dems play politics.

How much do you want to bet that's the spin?

IDIOTS!

:grr:

[onenote]

14. no, its repubs are for an up or down vote (which will be "down")

[redqueen]

16. So the options are table it or up or down vote?

:wtf:

[onenote]

25. if the motion to table fails, then Kucinich is going to demand an up/down vote on his resolution

and it will lose because every single repub will vote against it and more than 16 dems will vote against it and the spin will be victory for cheney and chimpy.

[redqueen]

31. Kucinich plans to demand an up or down vote?

Really?

I did not know that.

[onenote]

38. what do you think he was doing when he called up his resolution?

[Le Taz Hot]

42. We KNEW this was going to fail from the get-go.

It wasn't the point. The point was to make our so-called Representatives go on record to support the Constitution or not.

[Vilis Veritas]

17. I think you nailed it.

...or not...

edited to remove emotion...

[MoonRiver]

7. NAY 209; Yay 202

OMG!! :bounce:

[Renew Deal]

10. WTF is going on now?

[MoonRiver]

13. I don't know. But the motion is NOT going to be tabled!

YAY!!!!!

[Breeze54]

11. Are you SURE?????

:wtf:

[MoonRiver]

18. Even better now: 223 NAY; 187, yea!

WE WON BABY! :woohoo:

[Breeze54]

24. But the votes are still changing...says C-Span ( I can't see the screen)

on Real Player (it's to small) :(

[MoonRiver]

28. But they're changing in our favor!

Dems are now switching to Nay! Oh, happy day!!

[Breeze54]

8. The audio sounds horrible...like

the soundtrack from, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"!!



:rofl:

[mikelgb]

15. yeah ftw

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. This is UNBELIEVABLE!!! What are the repukes doing?

[Vilis Veritas]

22. Games...

[NYC Liberal]

27. Don't think for a SECOND it is not a game.

They want the bring the motion up for a vote so it can be defeated then.

Which is FINE BY ME, actually, because then everyone can go *on record*

[in_cog_ni_to]

34. This will further the debate, right? Now his crimes can be discussed on the House floor!

[NYC Liberal]

43. Yep. Repukes are wanting to be able to use the final vote to

say "Congress doesn't support impeachment"......BUT, in fact, it is what Kucinich wants! The fact is every member ought to go on record as supporting or not supporting this administration. Put it on the record.

[underpants]

32. They think they have a winner in bringing this up to debate

apparently. They will try to use it to show that the Dems are wasting time or out of touch. The Republicans haven't been right in 30 years I doubt that will change this afternoon.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

21. Hell NO,...but,...isn't this funnier than all get out!!! Cheney's cabal must be FREAKIN'!!!!

:rofl:

[onenote]

30. you really don't get it do you? cheney's cabal is laughing their asses off

THey are going to force a vote on the merits of kucinich's resolution and they will unanimously vote against it and with at least 16 Democrats almost certain to join them, they will defeat kucinich's resolution and will claim a great victory for chimpy and cheney.

[MoonRiver]

35. They're stupid then.

By allowing the debate to continue they keep their treason exposed. Thank God for dumb Republics! :D

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. That's right! Now it will be debated! The crimes will be EXPOSED. n/t

[onenote]

37. the "debate" is going to last one hour (30 min per side) and finish with a whimper not a bang

all that anyone will remember is that an attempt was made to impeach chimpy and it failed. And there will be no further discussion of impeachment for the rest of chimpy and cheney's term.

[MoonRiver]

44. This event is HUGE. It is historic. It WILL be widely discussed in the MSM.

I believe we have witnessed a seismic shift in American politics today.

[Phillycat]

51. So huge it's not even on the front page of cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/

[MoonRiver]

53. Do you know how many times since the founding of this country

a vote to impeach a sitting vice president has been allowed to be debated on the House floor?

[Phillycat]

62. It doesn't matter. No one will KNOW.

It's STILL not on any of the MSM outlets. And now it's gone back to committee, where it's been since July, to die. It's over and it appears we got played.

[MoonRiver]

64. I heard it was discussed on MSNBC.

I'm sure it will be on Keith Olberman tonight, and strongly suspect at least Lou Dobbs will cover it. Probably Blitzer too.

[cascadiance]

45. If the Dems vote against the bill itself they do so AT THEIR PERIL!

There is still a lot of time to get newer candidates to run against them in the primaries!

If they pass the impeachment resolution, then it will be more than an f'in hour in the Senate when the trial happens! That's when the serious stuff begins!

[RiverStone]

46. Why just 30 minutes per side? Who set that time limit?....n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Medicare Part D

was just as crazy

Stenny Hoyer took notes from Delay

[bdamomma]

26. what is their repigs game plan on this do they want to screw

the Dems or is it the other way around.

[Amonester]

29. So, "impeachment of the dick-traitor" is back on the table now?

still not a word in the corrupt m$m?

:wtf:

!

:woohoo:

[NightWatcher]

33. apparently it IS on the table

[Marrah_G]

39. We didn't win anything

~sigh~

[Rosa Luxemburg]

55. at least it didn't stay at committee and it HAS made headlines

look on the bright side
publicity and visibilty - there is nothing like it!

[Marrah_G]

61. Publicity is not always a good thing.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

65. I guess if the voters like Cheney?

but they don't he's probably on 18% approval or less?

[TahitiNut]

47. Democrats now rushing to switch from YEA to NAY!!

We're seeing a big time game of "chicken" folks.

[redqueen]

50. They play games...

while so many crises loom.

[graywarrior]

57. Looks like Dennis is forcing them to stick together or repubs plan to

split the dems will work this election.

[lpbk2713]

58. Who's got the salt?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Cha]

63. I know I'm suddenly not

so depressed anymore and I could eat me a big ol' bowl of :popcorn:, thanks, no salt for me :)